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    1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified (OP)


    Much to the dismay of the Vatican, an approx. 1500-2000 year old bible was found in Turkey, in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara.

    Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul “The Impostor”. The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place.

    A report by The National Turk says that the Bible was seized from a gang of smugglers in a Mediterranean-area operation. The report states the gang was charged with smuggling antiquities, illegal excavations, and the possession of explosives. The books itself is valued as high as 40 Million Turkish Liras (approx. 28 mil. Dollars). Man, where is the Thieves Guild, when you need them?


    Authenticity

    According to reports, experts and religious authorities in Tehram insist that the book is original. The book itself is written with gold lettering, onto loosely-tied leather in Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ.The text maintains a vision similar to Islam, contradicting the New Testament’s teachings of Christianity. Jesus also foresees the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, who would found Islam 700 years later.

    It is believed that, during the Council of Nicea, the Catholic Church hand-picked the gospels that form the Bible as we know it today; omitting the Gospel of Barnabas (among many others) in favor of the four canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Many biblical texts have begun to surface over time, including those of the Dead Sea and Gnostic Gospels; but this book especially, seems to worry the Vatican.


    The Catholic Church wants in

    What does this mean to Christian-derived religions and their followers? Quite a tight spot. The Vatican has asked Turkish authorities to let them examine the contents of the bookwithin the Church. Now that the book has been found, will they come to accept the it and its evidence? Will they deny it altogether? Call it a “Muslim lie”, as did the “Truth” Magazine, in 2000?

    To many, this book is a beacon of hope, that believers soon realize that the object of their adoration is arbitrary; and that all text, especially religious text, is subject to interpretation.

    What does this mean to atheists/agnostics/secular thinkers? Is the text real? Fake? Does it matter? Hopefully, this news inspires the religious to ask questions, instead of pointing fingers or believing anything blindly.

    Please, don’t go poking fun or tossing around the “I told you so!”s. The biggest danger of faith is when people believe what they want to believe, defending against any and all evidence; especially when that evidence revolutionizes their foundation from the ground up. And the biggest culprit to that danger is the ego trap: rejecting/criticizing others, for being unlike you.

    For centuries, the “defense” of blind faith has driven nations to war, violence, discrimination, slavery and to become the society of automatons that we are today; and for just as long, it has been justified with lies. If you know better, act like it.

    http://greatlifeandmore.com/index.ph...atican-in-awe/
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

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    Isa/Jesus himself said not to follow Pharisäes (over the top religios people). Instead of arguing about something nobody can 100% proof, how about all of you ask God himself about Jesus!? Just do it plain and simple! If God is real and you believe in him he obviously will answer you and he knows the truth about everything so, do it!
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    format_quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    Which version?
    Pick any Bible translation or ancient Biblical manuscript. It's the same Gospel in every version. God is faithful.
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    Each version has its own page where there is a brief description about that particular version, information taken from within the version itself. You can view a quote from Genesis 1: 1, 2; Wisdom (of Solomon) 1: 1; and/or John 1: 1-3 as recorded in each version to illustrate its style. Also noted is the library where the version is located.

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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    According to a debate i saw with David Wood and Shabir Ally, it turns out it was written by an italian convert to Islam which is in 500 AD or something i think, atlast according to both David Wood and Shabir Ally
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    Barnabas, a native of Cyprus and a Levite, is first mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles as a member of the early Christian community in Jerusalem, who sold some land that he owned and gave the proceeds to the community (Acts 4:36-37). When the future*Apostle Paulreturned to Jerusalem after his conversion, Barnabas introduced him to the apostles (9:27). Easton, in his Bible Dictionary, supposes that they had been fellow students in the school of Rabbi*Gamaliel.[9]

    The successful preaching of Christianity at Antioch to non-Jews led the church at Jerusalem to send Barnabas there to oversee the movement (Acts 11:20–22).
    He found the work so extensive and weighty that he went to*Tarsus*in search of Paul (still referred to as Saul), "an admirable colleague", to assist him.[10]
    *Paul returned with him to Antioch and labored with him for a whole year (Acts 11:25–26). At the end of this period, the two were sent up to Jerusalem (AD*44) with contributions from the church at Antioch for the relief of the poorer Christians in Judea.
    They returned to Antioch taking John Mark with them, the cousin or nephew of Barnabas.[11]*Later, they went to Cyprus and some of the principal cities of*Pamphylia,*Pisidia, and*Lycaonia*(Acts 13:14). After recounting that the governor of Cyprus*Sergius Paulus*believed, the Acts of the Apostles 13:9 speaks of Barnabas's companion no longer as Saul, but as Paul, his Roman name, and generally refers to the two no longer as "Barnabas and Saul" as heretofore (11:30; 12:25; 13:2, 7), but as "Paul and Barnabas" (13:43, 46, 50; 14:20; 15:2, 22, 35).
    Only in 14:14 and 15:12, 25 does Barnabas again occupy the first place, in the first passage with recollection of 14:12, in the last two, because Barnabas stood in closer relation to the Jerusalem church than Paul.
    Paul appears as the more eloquent missionary (13:16; 14:8-9, 19-20), whence the*Lystrans*regarded him as*Hermes, Barnabas as*Zeus[12](14:12).

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabas
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    format_quote Originally Posted by goodwill View Post
    Pick any Bible translation or ancient Biblical manuscript. It's the same Gospel in every version. God is faithful.
    God is faithful but not most of the humans and I can't agree with this absurd claims that all Gospels are the same . You should agree with Bart Erhman , the 30 year old Expert in Bible and Ex Evangelist who's most knowledgeable as he read in the Bible school right from when he was a kid and knows more than most of the Christians put together and asks this question ?

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...te+matthew+%3F

    and this


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSGd8uzFxxY
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    format_quote Originally Posted by talibilm View Post
    God is faithful but not most of the humans and I can't agree with this absurd claims that all Gospels are the same . You should agree with Bart Erhman , the 30 year old Expert in Bible and Ex Evangelist who's most knowledgeable as he read in the Bible school right from when he was a kid and knows more than most of the Christians put together and asks this question ?
    If you read the Bible, you will see that the New Testament presents a coherent account of God's advent in the flesh, as was foretold in the Old Testament.

    Do you also agree with Ehrman's rejection of the Quran?

    But Bart Ehrman, like the Quran, agrees that NT text is reliable:
    “The position I argue for in ‘Misquoting Jesus’ does not actually stand at odds with Prof. Metzler’s position that THE ESSENTIAL CHRISTIAN BELIEFS ARE NOT AFFECTED BY TEXTUAL VARIANTS in the manuscript tradition of the New Testament.”
    From Misquoting Jesus, pg. 252.
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

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    Much to the dismay of the Vatican, an approx. 1500-2000 year old bible was found in Turkey, in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara.

    Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul “The Impostor”. The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place.

    A report by The National Turk says that the Bible was seized from a gang of smugglers in a Mediterranean-area operation. The report states the gang was charged with smuggling antiquities, illegal excavations, and the possession of explosives. The books itself is valued as high as 40 Million Turkish Liras (approx. 28 mil. Dollars). Man, where is the Thieves Guild, when you need them?


    Authenticity

    According to reports, experts and religious authorities in Tehram insist that the book is original. The book itself is written with gold lettering, onto loosely-tied leather in Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ.The text maintains a vision similar to Islam, contradicting the New Testament’s teachings of Christianity. Jesus also foresees the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, who would found Islam 700 years later.

    It is believed that, during the Council of Nicea, the Catholic Church hand-picked the gospels that form the Bible as we know it today; omitting the Gospel of Barnabas (among many others) in favor of the four canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Many biblical texts have begun to surface over time, including those of the Dead Sea and Gnostic Gospels; but this book especially, seems to worry the Vatican.


    The Catholic Church wants in

    What does this mean to Christian-derived religions and their followers? Quite a tight spot. The Vatican has asked Turkish authorities to let them examine the contents of the bookwithin the Church. Now that the book has been found, will they come to accept the it and its evidence? Will they deny it altogether? Call it a “Muslim lie”, as did the “Truth” Magazine, in 2000?

    To many, this book is a beacon of hope, that believers soon realize that the object of their adoration is arbitrary; and that all text, especially religious text, is subject to interpretation.

    What does this mean to atheists/agnostics/secular thinkers? Is the text real? Fake? Does it matter? Hopefully, this news inspires the religious to ask questions, instead of pointing fingers or believing anything blindly.

    Please, don’t go poking fun or tossing around the “I told you so!”s. The biggest danger of faith is when people believe what they want to believe, defending against any and all evidence; especially when that evidence revolutionizes their foundation from the ground up. And the biggest culprit to that danger is the ego trap: rejecting/criticizing others, for being unlike you.

    For centuries, the “defense” of blind faith has driven nations to war, violence, discrimination, slavery and to become the society of automatons that we are today; and for just as long, it has been justified with lies. If you know better, act like it.

    http://greatlifeandmore.com/index.ph...atican-in-awe/
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    Wanted to give it a BUMP for the ones interested.
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    Virtually all scholars ( other than a few Muslim scholars) regard this “Gospel of Barnabas” as a forgery of the late Middle Ages. Second, this supposed “Gospel” actually contradicts the Quran !!
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    format_quote Originally Posted by Spiritlead View Post
    Virtually all scholars ( other than a few Muslim scholars) regard this “Gospel of Barnabas” as a forgery of the late Middle Ages. Second, this supposed “Gospel” actually contradicts the Quran !!
    Can you at least post sources?
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    “Gospel of Barnabas” as a forgery of the late Middle Ages
    Lol. Barnabas is a forgery but that which comes from Paul which is half of the books of the new testament is authentic, yeah?

    Barnabas is a fake but Paul who persecuted the followers of Jesus (PBUH) is legit. We can trust him. [sarcasm]
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    Here we go again, again, again
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    Do you know much about Paul ? Did you know he suffered enormous persecution and eventually execution for his faith. Did you know that the other apostles .ie. Peter, James and John etc accepted his teaching as authentic ?
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    Re: 1500 Year Old Bible Confirms That Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified

    By the way this Bible doesnt contain the Gospel of Barnabas. The Gospel of Barnabas is most probably a fake book writen by a muslim who doesnt know even Islam.

    We still dont know what is written in this Bible because the Turkish authorities dont reveal anything. If it is revealed one day we can learn something new about Christianity since it is very old and written in ancient Aramaic with the Assyrian script.
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