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    Talmudic Judaism (OP)


    http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/talmud.htm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSy6ENVAJlY

    https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Histor...dp/B00GGOEL4A/

    Mainstream Judaism is Talmudic Judaism today. Talmudic Judaism is fundamentally parasitic and should not be tolerated in a moral community. Only Karaite Judaism is okay.

    What is the final solution? Require everyone in your community to periodically eat meat and milk together. For example, cheeseburgers or shawarma with yogurt sauce. This will eliminate Talmudic Judaism which prohibits this, but won't affect Karaite Judaism or other followers of the Old Testament.


    Please note that I am ethnically jewish and attended Orthodox synagogue, so I can personally confirm that the above links are accurate. I am posting this because, based on my experience at my local mosque, I think Muslims are naive when it comes to dealing with Judaism.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    When your people are nice and polite to our brothers and sisters in Palestine and not bulldoze their homes that can be a start..
    Maybe try and like dont steretype all jews? There are plenty of jews who support palestine just like we cant judge all muslims
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    format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    Maybe try and like dont steretype all jews? There are plenty of jews who support palestine just like we cant judge all muslims
    Was this post to gather as many likes as you can get?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    Was this post to gather as many likes as you can get?
    No, this post was to try and be a nice person. Believe it or not i dont really care about likes.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    No, this post was to try and be a nice person. Believe it or not i dont really care about likes.
    I'm gonna throw you one anyways....
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    I'm gonna throw you one anyways....
    Thats awfully nice of you. Are you sure you're okay with liking my post?
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    Re: Talmudic Judaism

    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    Was this post to gather as many likes as you can get?
    Unlike cinnamon...this post of yours was definitely not to gather as many likes as you can get...
    I guess you tried to be funny and sarcastic or something like that...
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    format_quote Originally Posted by umie View Post
    Unlike cinnamon...this post of yours was definitely not to gather as many likes as you can get...
    I guess you tried to be funny and sarcastic or something like that...
    You gotta shake your head at Muslims nowadays. Defending the kuffar won't get you anywhere. No wala and bara. But I get it, you live in Darul Kufr so its best to appease them. And speaking the truth about Jews will get you arrested in Germany.
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    Re: Talmudic Judaism

    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    You gotta shake your head at Muslims nowadays. Defending the kuffar won't get you anywhere. No wala and bara. But I get it, you live in Darul Kufr so its best to appease them. And speaking the truth about Jews will get you arrested in Germany.
    Lol no. I dont seek to appease anyone apart from God. You just seem to love stereotyping folk and being negative. Besides, Jews are ahlul kitab. before you burst a blood vessel i am referring to your regular jews not your zionists who support israel.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    Lol no. I dont seek to appease anyone apart from God. You just seem to love stereotyping folk and being negative. Besides, Jews are ahlul kitab. before you burst a blood vessel i am referring to your regular jews not your zionists who support israel.
    Jews are Ahlu kitab. So does that mean they are something special? Allah Azza wa Jal tells us not to take the Jews and Christians as friends and protectors (3:118). And never will the Jews and Christians be pleased with you until you follow their religion (2:120). Now, is Allah stereotyping also? Do you people even bother reading the Quran? As for the "regular Jews" those ARE the ones that support the Zionist State. The small minority don't. And that is a small minority. Its not about being negative. Its about being truthful. Its about shunning the political correction nonsense.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    Jews are Ahlu kitab. So does that mean they are something special? Allah Azza wa Jal tells us not to take the Jews and Christians as friends and protectors (3:118). And never will the Jews and Christians be pleased with you until you follow their religion (2:120). Now, is Allah stereotyping also? Do you people even bother reading the Quran? As for the "regular Jews" those ARE the ones that support the Zionist State. The small minority don't. And that is a small minority. Its not about being negative. Its about being truthful. Its about shunning the political correction nonsense.
    Political correctness sounds "dar ul Kufr" speech is rubbing on to you - Jews are Aluhl Kitab that means they are monotheist. Does not mean we take our din from them or that they are our Awaliya (as they dont accept the Quran or sunnah), just like they dont treat us in the same way. If you got a problem with Zionism make a thread and dont derail it. You wouldn't like people Blaming you for ISIS.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Zafran View Post
    Political correctness sounds "dar ul Kufr" speech is rubbing on to you - Jews are Aluhl Kitab that means they are monotheist. Does not mean we take our din from them or that they are our Awaliya (as they dont accept the Quran or sunnah), just like they dont treat us in the same way. If you got a problem with Zionism make a thread and dont derail it. You wouldn't like people Blaming you for ISIS.
    This thread is the best topic to discuss Zionism since it has a relation with the Talmud which is what the OP brought up in his post.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    This thread is the best topic to discuss Zionism since it has a relation with the Talmud which is what the OP brought up in his post.
    No he doesnt - Talmud is an ancient book - Zionist movements is a modern movement (a bit like salafis). Where is the connection?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Zafran View Post
    No he doesnt - Talmud is an ancient book - Zionist movements is a modern movement (a bit like salafis). Where is the connection?
    Talmud is embraced by the Zionist movement so it has a place in this thread.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    Talmud is embraced by the Zionist movement so it has a place in this thread.
    No it isnt - the Zionist movement is based on all sorts of Jews including ones that are atheist and liberal. Orthodox, communist etc etc. You going to drag that in the thread just because you want to derail it to Zionism.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Zafran View Post
    No it isnt - the Zionist movement is based on all sorts of Jews including ones that are atheist and liberal. Orthodox, communist etc etc. You going to drag that in the thread just because you want to derail it to Zionism.
    Yes, Zionism has everything to do with today's Jews. Though some liberal Jews will hide it, down inside they have an affinity with the Zionist State and its well being.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    Yes, Zionism has everything to do with today's Jews. Though some liberal Jews will hide it, down inside they have an affinity with the Zionist State and its well being.
    Back to the Talmud.........
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    You gotta shake your head at Muslims nowadays. Defending the kuffar won't get you anywhere. No wala and bara. But I get it, you live in Darul Kufr so its best to appease them. And speaking the truth about Jews will get you arrested in Germany.
    Sounds like you're a sicko Jew hater. "The truth about Jews" - meanwhile, I'll probably get banned from the board for calling you out.

    It's an authentic Muslim value to live in peace with Jews. Being respectful is not "defending the kuffar". Blaming all Jews for certain unfair actions or perceived oppressions in Israel is not advancing the cause of Islam. It's the lazy way to feel like you're righteous instead of trying to deal with a complex reality.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    Yes, Zionism has everything to do with today's Jews. Though some liberal Jews will hide it, down inside they have an affinity with the Zionist State and its well being.
    Yes, we can disagree with injustices that were done in the name of Zionism, sympathize with the Palestinians, and still be thankful that Allah is protecting us and has returned us to our historic and spiritual homeland.

    As far as the connection between Zionism and Talmud, the original Zionist were secularists. They didn't care about what the Talmud says. Religious Jews follow the Talmud's teachings to deal fairly and justly with all people, Jewish and non-Jewish.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Moses613 View Post
    Sounds like you're a sicko Jew hater. "The truth about Jews" - meanwhile, I'll probably get banned from the board for calling you out.

    It's an authentic Muslim value to live in peace with Jews. Being respectful is not "defending the kuffar". Blaming all Jews for certain unfair actions or perceived oppressions in Israel is not advancing the cause of Islam. It's the lazy way to feel like you're righteous instead of trying to deal with a complex reality.

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    Yes, we can disagree with injustices that were done in the name of Zionism, sympathize with the Palestinians, and still be thankful that Allah is protecting us and has returned us to our historic and spiritual homeland.

    As far as the connection between Zionism and Talmud, the original Zionist were secularists. They didn't care about what the Talmud says. Religious Jews follow the Talmud's teachings to deal fairly and justly with all people, Jewish and non-Jewish.

    You can call me whatever you want. Unlike most people, I don't backdown from the jews calling me names. You did one thing correct though. You don't dare call me anti-semitic because I didn't say anything disparaging about Semitic peoples. You get where I am going with that, ashkenazi? Advancing the cause of Islam has nothing to do with speaking the truth about you people. Get over yourselves. As far as your "historical and spiritual" homeland, that would be in Khazaria not Palestine. The Talmud speaks about dealing fairly with their own and not the gentiles, or is it the goyim?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Moses613 View Post
    Sounds like you're a sicko Jew hater. "The truth about Jews" - meanwhile, I'll probably get banned from the board for calling you out.

    It's an authentic Muslim value to live in peace with Jews. Being respectful is not "defending the kuffar". Blaming all Jews for certain unfair actions or perceived oppressions in Israel is not advancing the cause of Islam. It's the lazy way to feel like you're righteous instead of trying to deal with a complex reality.

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    Yes, we can disagree with injustices that were done in the name of Zionism, sympathize with the Palestinians, and still be thankful that Allah is protecting us and has returned us to our historic and spiritual homeland.

    As far as the connection between Zionism and Talmud, the original Zionist were secularists. They didn't care about what the Talmud says. Religious Jews follow the Talmud's teachings to deal fairly and justly with all people, Jewish and non-Jewish.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Shoppy View Post
    I'm wondering why are there so few Jews? Islam came much later and there are almost 2 billion Muslims, yet only 20 million Jews.
    There would of been even less if the peoples of Khazaria never converted to Judaism in the 10th century.
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