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    Quran clearly says that project Muhammad is the last messenger for the whole of humanity , then how come any religion after Islam eg.SIKHISM can come.
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    Re: About Sikhism through islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ishil View Post
    Quran clearly says that project Muhammad is the last messenger for the whole of humanity , then how come any religion after Islam eg.SIKHISM can come.
    Islam is the ONLY true religion.
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    Similarities between Islam and Sikhism

    Both religions are Monotheistic.

    Sikhs and Muslims believe in a formless God.

    Both religions are against idol worship.

    The Sikhs believe in Dharam Yudha and the Muslims in Jihad. The war of righteousness, makes both militarized religions.

    Charity is one of the most important basic tenets of Sikhism and Islam. In Islam it is called Zakat and in Sikhism Dasvandh, where 10% of a person’s income is supposed to be given for important causes.

    Followers cover their head for prayers.
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    Re: About Sikhism through islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ishil View Post
    Quran clearly says that project Muhammad is the last messenger for the whole of humanity , then how come any religion after Islam eg.SIKHISM can come.
    format_quote Originally Posted by Ejaz Ahmed View Post
    Similarities between Islam and Sikhism

    Both religions are Monotheistic.

    Sikhs and Muslims believe in a formless God.

    Both religions are against idol worship.

    The Sikhs believe in Dharam Yudha and the Muslims in Jihad. The war of righteousness, makes both militarized religions.

    Charity is one of the most important basic tenets of Sikhism and Islam. In Islam it is called Zakat and in Sikhism Dasvandh, where 10% of a person’s income is supposed to be given for important causes.

    Followers cover their head for prayers.
    such similarities can be seen in other religions as well.

    What about it that Sikhs prostrate before gurugranth sahib...?

    Halal meat is haram in their religion. Alcohol, sodomy, fornication, music is common thing in them.

    They hated Muslims more than any other people, they killed Muslims at large in 1947 but in 1984 Muslims protected them and since then their views have been changed a bit.
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    There is nothing about sikhism through Islam

    Allah says "This day have I perfected your religion for you completed my favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.-Allah is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful." Quran 5:3

    Further "Muhammad is not the father of any of your men but (he is) the Apostle of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.-" Quran 33:40


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    Re: About Sikhism through islam

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    There is nothing about sikhism through Islam

    Allah says "This day have I perfected your religion for you completed my favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.-Allah is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful." Quran 5:3

    Further "Muhammad is not the father of any of your men but (he is) the Apostle of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.-" Quran 33:40


    Nothing new can be added nothing can be subtracted..this is the complete way.
    yes, you are right. I agree with you
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    In this time, Sujood-prostration should be only for Allah no one else..

    As far as halal meat alcohol music sodomy fornication is concerned, they r absolutely forbidden in Islam. Idk whether that religion allow these or not(please don't have image of religion by just observing the followers)..

    Anything which goes against the Furqan (criterion) - Quran mustn't be follows.
    Allah gives us challenge "do not they ponder on the Quran? And if it had been from other than Allah, surely they would have found in it much contradiction." Quran 4:82

    Give me a single contradictory Ayah(in context) which goes against established science, health..
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    Any religion can come any time, doesn't necessarily mean it's the right or true religion. Look at Nation of Islam in America, they call themselves Muslims but they have their own prophet and everything. They are not Muslims nor is their religion related to Islam in anyway. Same goes for Sikhism.
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    Re: About Sikhism through islam

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    In this time, Sujood-prostration should be only for Allah no one else..
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    Any religion can come any time, doesn't necessarily mean it's the right or true religion. Look at Nation of Islam in America, they call themselves Muslims but they have their own prophet and everything. They are not Muslims nor is their religion related to Islam in anyway. Same goes for Sikhism.
    For the verification of any religion to be true or not there r ways to prove it right or wrong or ambigious.. Quran passes this test and it's the only Book which also helps you to prove it wrong like "produce a single Surah/chapter like it" till now no one could do that other tests like matching the verses with established science.. nothing contradicts and many other tests..
    Idk any religion which says that this the last and final completed religion except Islam. It's exclusively mentioning it. As far as Nation of Islam is concerned, who was it's prophet? Elijah Muhammad? U know his background? Who assassinated Malcolm X ! And lots of crimes in the name of God and Black empowerment.

    Hath these religion been truth it would not stop spreading comparatively. People will make different religions and claim false prophecy it's ought to be but we have to test all of them if the pass the test of time!

    The religion of Abraham is the same religion of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh), ie, believing in One True God. Whatever the prophecy made by Muhammad(pbuh) everything is coming true.
    The whole world will be Muslim soon. There will be nothing like sikhism, Christianity, Hinduism,Judaism,Taoism etc. The true religion will prevail and people will create and be divided in different sects of Islam and their goes a long prophecy till the Day.


    "Fain would they extinguish Allah's light with their mouths but Allah will not allow but that His light should be perfected even though the unbelievers may detest (it).
    It is He who hath sent His apostle with guidance and religion of truth to proclaim it over all religions even though the pagans may detest (it).-"

    Quran 9:32-33
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    Re: About Sikhism through islam

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    Trolling is detected
    ?? Something mature expected
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    ?? Something mature expected
    So pls list the differences of Islam and Sikhism as well
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    Re: About Sikhism through islam

    salaam

    There are many religions and spiritual movements that came after the last prophet Muhammad pbuh, - the first prophet of Islam was the first man Adam as. Sikhism is not the only religion that came after, there is Bahia faith, Mormonism, New age religions, ahmadis, etc.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    So pls list the differences of Islam and Sikhism as well
    They have 10 Gurus and 5 Ks (which are like pillars) - They believe in reincarnation like Hinduism and Buddhism. They came about after Guru Nanak had a spiritual awakening after 3 days. He went to Mecca as well (they claim). They fought the Mughals in the 15th century and later made an empire in Kashmir to Lahore under Ranjit Singh.
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    Re: About Sikhism through islam

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    salaam

    There are many religions and spiritual movements that came after the last prophet Muhammad pbuh, - the first prophet of Islam was the first man Adam as. Sikhism is not the only religion that came after, there is Bahia faith, Mormonism, New age religions, ahmadis, etc.

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    They have 10 Gurus and 5 Ks (which are like pillars) - They believe in reincarnation like Hinduism and Buddhism. They came about after Guru Nanak had a spiritual awakening after 3 days. He went to Mecca as well (they claim). They fought the Mughals in the 15th century and later made an empire in Kashmir to Lahore under Ranjit Singh.
    and no non Muslim can visit makka, this is why it's also said that guru Nanak has become Muslim and Quran which he read is in firozpur gurudwara.
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    Bahais, Sikhis, Druze, Shias and others are violating Islam in taking Prophets after Muhammad and worshiping idols, and it was said by our Prophet that 30 Dajjals will come to misguide the people.
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    Re: About Sikhism through islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime View Post
    Bahais, Sikhis, Druze, Shias and others are violating Islam in taking Prophets after Muhammad and worshiping idols, and it was said by our Prophet that 30 Dajjals will come to misguide the people.
    Doesn't the Quran says God will only send messengers to a people except in their language?

    And We sent not a Messenger except with the language of his people, in order that he might make (the Message) clear for them. Then Allah misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise. (Quran 14 4)

    Why can't then eg. Guru Nanak be the messenger for the Indians/Punjabis or Bahaullah for the Persians/Afghans etc?
    They are not Arabs& Arabic is not their language.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by yandex View Post
    Doesn't the Quran says God will only send messengers to a people except in their language? And We sent not a Messenger except with the language of his people, in order that he might make (the Message) clear for them. Then Allah misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise. (Quran 14 4) Why can't then eg. Guru Nanak be the messenger for the Indians/Punjabis or Bahaullah for the Persians/Afghans etc? They are not Arabs& Arabic is not their language.
    Doesn't the Quran says God will only send messengers to a people except in their language?
    yes, and they came before prophet Muhammad s.a.w
    Why can't then eg. Guru Nanak be the messenger for the Indians/Punjabis or Bahaullah for the Persians/Afghans etc?
    No, they can't be, because they were born after the last messenger i.e. Hz Muhammad s.aw.
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    Each and every individual is being tried and sifted.Only the truth remains ultimately so please try to see the truth exactly as it is and don't judge it based upon a billion different opinions, but study the opinions in order to sift the truth - and then seek to do what is just.

    You will be raised from the dead and judged for your actions - since God is in no way unjust.And beware of becoming or bowing to the idol shepherd - since God is your shepherd.

    I honestly don't know where the Mahdi Meer statements come from but i did manage to take a lot of good advice from them, now it's my duty - as it has always been - to follow the best of paths - without allowing illogical and untrue superstitions to drive me to commit injustice.





    13. Set forth to them, by way of a parable, the (story of) the Companions of the City. Behold!, there came apostles to it.
    14. When We (first) sent to them two apostles, they rejected them: But We strengthened them with a third: they said, "Truly, we have been sent on a mission to you."
    15. The (people) said: "Ye are only men like ourselves; and ((Allah)) Most Gracious sends no sort of revelation: ye do nothing but lie."
    16. They said: "Our Lord doth know that we have been sent on a mission to you:
    17. "And our duty is only to proclaim the clear Message."
    18. The (people) said: "for us, we augur an evil omen from you: if ye desist not, we will certainly stone you. And a grievous punishment indeed will be inflicted on you by us."
    19. They said: "Your evil omens are with yourselves: (deem ye this an evil omen). If ye are admonished? Nay, but ye are a people transgressing all bounds!"
    20. Then there came running, from the farthest part of the City, a man, saying, "O my people! Obey the apostles:
    21. "Obey those who ask no reward of you (for themselves), and who have themselves received Guidance.
    22. "It would not be reasonable in me if I did not serve Him Who created me, and to Whom ye shall (all) be brought back.
    23. "Shall I take (other) gods besides Him? If ((Allah)) Most Gracious should intend some adversity for me, of no use whatever will be their intercession for me, nor can they deliver me.
    24. "I would indeed, if I were to do so, be in manifest Error.
    25. "For me, I have faith in the Lord of you (all): listen, then, to me!"
    26. It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!-
    27. "For that my Lord has granted me Forgiveness and has enrolled me among those held in honour!"
    28. And We sent not down against his People, after him, any hosts from heaven, nor was it needful for Us so to do.
    29. It was no more than a single mighty Blast, and behold! they were (like ashes) quenched and silent.
    30. Ah! Alas for (My) Servants! There comes not an apostle to them but they mock him!
    31. See they not how many generations before them we destroyed? Not to them will they return:
    32. But each one of them all - will be brought before Us (for judgment).

    From Quran, Chapter 36 - YAA SEEN.
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