Practising Christians

format_quote Originally Posted by Jayda

Here is what the Church says about worship.

And this is from the Catholic encyclopedia



Worship is about who you are worshipping not how you are worshipping, obviously there is an attachment about the 'how' that you cant break God's laws to worship him... so yes i do care if i am doing something that goes against God's laws, however that is mostly common sense.

I see. SO there are no specific ways of worship except probaly direct praying? eg saying grace etc?
In the same way...fasting to please God isnt worship? I know someone said it was commitment......but its hard to diffreciate .

Would it be sinful according to the church to have sex out of marriage, or go do things like clubbing etc

format_quote Originally Posted by Mohsin

Would it be sinful according to the church to have sex out of marriage

yes, it's consideres a sin against "You shall not commit adultery." (6 commandment). Lust is also considered sin: "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery '.But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5;27)

format_quote Originally Posted by Mohsin

or go do things like clubbing etc

I think not. overdosing alcohol, taking drugs - yes. But dancing, drinking (a bit) with your friends - no.
on the other hand i know someone who considers dancing sinful....he is protestant
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format_quote Originally Posted by duskiness

no, you're not alone. Not sure but it seems that Eric is also.
We have Protestants, Catholics here...now we need to find Orthodox
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Lebanese maronites are catholics too arent they? But why their priests can have wife and children?

I've seen Egyptian Coptic mass (i think it's Christmas mass on January) live on ART. They sings like Malaysian Muslims singing Barzanji in weddings or newborn celebrations.

The Christianity that is practiced today is not the same as it was back then. Remember, Isa and his disciples were JEWS! They did not start a new religion, but the disciples were called Christians because they were being mocked at for being followers of Christ. Christianity was really started by Paul, whom the disciples distanced themselves away from because his teachings were contrary to the teachings of Isa. Still in fact, that Christianity is very different from what you see today.

format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian

Lebanese maronites are catholics too arent they?

yes

format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian

But why their priests can have wife and children?

Catholic Church is divided into so calles Western rite church (the "typical" Catholc Church) and Eastern rite Churches (22, Maronite among them). celibacy for all prists is a rule only in Western rite church.
list of Eastern rite Churches

format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian

I've seen Egyptian Coptic mass (i think it's Christmas mass on January) live on ART. They sings like Malaysian Muslims singing Barzanji in weddings or newborn celebrations.

hard to comment on that because i have never heard how Malaysian Muslim sing
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ad your sig. i have already visited Malaysia on 26 XII 04 i landed on Langkawi. but that wasn't the best time to see Malaysia

format_quote Originally Posted by Curious girl2

If Muslims care about the Qu'ran, the how come there are people blowing themselves and others up in the name of Islam? Because they are not true Muslims.

My own personal view is that there shouldnt be practicing homosexuals appointed as priests, anymore than so-called Muslims who defile their religion by blowing themselves and others up in the name of Islam.

Some people claim to be Christians and are not. By doing so they disrepect the religion they claim to uphold. Some people claim to be Muslim and they are not. By doing so they disrespect the religion they claim to uphold. There are bad examples in all religions.

I do not think that all the people who claim to be Christians truly follow their religion and laws. Though many do, sadly the minority give Christianity a bad name. In exactly the same way not all that people who claim to be Muslims (in fact insert ANY religion here) truly follow their religion and laws. Though many do, sadly a minority give Islam a bad name.

HTH
Peace
CG

Yes well said, just because one does it or dont do it, dont mean thatz how the religion workz, it really miffz me that people make a general statement and tar everyone with the same brush, if a Christian dont do summat dont mean they all dont or if one drinkz as somone ignorant sayz, dont mean they are all like that! Itz the same with culturez, people think the Irish are all drinkerz, fighterz, and messerz, but I can assure you, that not all are like that!! Prejudice is BAD BAD BAD!! I could go on forever!!People need to grow up and wise up, and not just follow suit and believe what they are told or hear, parentz instill this in their children, their ignornce and rudeness!!FROM ALL RELIGIONZ AND CULTUREZ!

There are many muslimz that drink etc, and other religionz or people say, ooo sure they are out drinking and chatting up the girlz, soooooo what, they aint me and they aint representing Islam and vice versa with all religionz!!

I have an Issue with TURKISH people tho, not all of them, the ones that are working in the hotelz etc, I alwayz thought when people told me that they were 'Pervz' etc that that was a general prejudice, but really, nearly every single one of them whilst I was on holiday a while back, swatmed round us, they drink 24/7 and they just seem to be 'not the full schilling' as it were, I must say, from what I seen in the industrialised side of Turkey, they are more Westernised than the West!!

format_quote Originally Posted by blackjubba

The Christianity that is practiced today is not the same as it was back then. .

in a way your right. word has changed a chrisianity also. our theology, liturgy developed. But the core is intacked (i know that you disagree here)

format_quote Originally Posted by blackjubba

Remember, Isa and his disciples were JEWS!

yes, i know

format_quote Originally Posted by blackjubba

but the disciples were called Christians because they were being mocked at for being followers of Christ.

true, Bible (in Acts 11;26) records that it was first used in Antioch.

format_quote Originally Posted by blackjubba

Christianity was really started by Paul.

- that's a Muslim belief

format_quote Originally Posted by blackjubba

whom the disciples distanced themselves away from because his teachings were contrary to the teachings of Isa.

As Acts say Paul was accepted by James and Peter (leaders of church in Jerusalem). About Paul and others you can read in his letter and in Acts (that's about "Jerusalem council" - dispute between Paul and the rest about the way nonjewish christians should be treated).
So it seems they were in agreement.
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format_quote Originally Posted by sameer

whats the best way to aviod ure self from geting into such a situation?

probably avoid some situations .. but remeber that we believe that all people are sinful. we never live up to God's law. So we will never run away from sin. Point is: we should't seek sin and try to avoid it.
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