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    Why celebrate christmas?
    Christians say that they celebrate birth of jesus,
    But no one knows when jesus was born, it even states in the bible
    and also santa claus? who is he? did you know santa claus wore green clothing then coca cola changed it to red? big company can change the entire face of the earth.

    so why celebrate christmas?

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    did you know santa claus wore green clothing then coca cola changed it to red? big company can change the entire face of the earth.
    When did that happen? Do you have a source?
    Why celebrate christmas?

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by SirDemonic View Post
    But no one knows when jesus was born, it even states in the bible
    ?? it even states in the Bible?? What that noone knows when Jesus was born? Peace be upon him.

    I think over the years I have seen many Christians disagree about Christmas some actually opposing it quite sternly.

    My family celebrates Christmas on the 7 of January. Because thats when they do it back home. Also, many don't say 'Jesus happy birth day' or anything, they just use it as a time to think of Jesus and life and death and so forth and be thankful, just as some Muslims who celebrate the Birth of Muhammad though they dont know the date say 'We only just want to think of Muhammad's life on this date'
    Not that I agree with that.

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...1143940AAykJo8

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    And also google it, if you dont bealive me =)

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by SirDemonic View Post
    http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...1143940AAykJo8

    Happy?

    And also google it, if you dont bealive me =)

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    Interesting, something I never knew. Thank you for telling me this new info.
    Why celebrate christmas?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by IzakHalevas View Post
    Interesting, something I never knew. Thank you for telling me this new info.
    No problem

    I always have infos coming through my ears

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by SirDemonic View Post
    Why celebrate christmas?
    Christians say that they celebrate birth of jesus,
    But no one knows when jesus was born, it even states in the bible
    and also santa claus? who is he? did you know santa claus wore green clothing then coca cola changed it to red? big company can change the entire face of the earth.

    so why celebrate christmas?
    Why celebrate Christmas?

    For those who do not believe in the message of God coming incarnate among us;for those who do not believe in celebrating God's gracious actions toward us;for those who think that Jesus was just a man or perhaps even a myth, then there is no reason to celebrate. It is not your celebration, and you are most lilkely to misunderstand even that which you observe of other's celebration.

    For those who have no faith in a living, present, personal God who steps into the world to save it from itself and its own self-destructive ways; for those who are concerned about what they will receive in gift exchanges; for those who look at corporate bottom lines, then there is no reason to celebrate. What you have invented is some other celebration not linked in any meaningful way to the one honored in the very name of the celebration, but forgotten in its practice.

    For those who will celebrate virtually anything if it comes with enough lights, ribbon, or fanfare; for those who are caught up on fanciful stories and desire mainly for an emotional outlet; for those who think that eggnog and fruitcake and parties with food is what makes a celebration; this celebration is not for you either. For you could and would celebrate at the drop of a hat. You create celebrations that are all about yourself.

    There are many reasons that people give for celebrating Christmas, but there is only one that captures the real reason, one wants to honor Christ. Yes, we could do that and should do that any and even every other day of the year. But this is a special day set aside, just one among many, for the One who came to give his life for the many. And in response to that gift we still proclaim: Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace and good will among men.

    That's why we celebrate Christmas, because Christ is worth of such a celebration.

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Al Habeshi View Post


    My family celebrates Christmas on the 7 of January. Because thats when they do it back home. Also, many don't say 'Jesus happy birth day' or anything, they just use it as a time to think of Jesus and life and death and so forth and be thankful, just as some Muslims who celebrate the Birth of Muhammad though they dont know the date say 'We only just want to think of Muhammad's life on this date'
    Not that I agree with that.
    Eesa
    where are you from? any reason why jan. 7 specifically?
    it sounds like a very sane way to celebrate. here it has become a hideous consumer spectacle.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Grace Seeker View Post
    Why celebrate Christmas?

    For those who do not believe in the message of God coming incarnate among us;for those who do not believe in celebrating God's gracious actions toward us;for those who think that Jesus was just a man or perhaps even a myth, then there is no reason to celebrate. It is not your celebration, and you are most lilkely to misunderstand even that which you observe of other's celebration.

    For those who have no faith in a living, present, personal God who steps into the world to save it from itself and its own self-destructive ways; for those who are concerned about what they will receive in gift exchanges; for those who look at corporate bottom lines, then there is no reason to celebrate. What you have invented is some other celebration not linked in any meaningful way to the one honored in the very name of the celebration, but forgotten in its practice.

    For those who will celebrate virtually anything if it comes with enough lights, ribbon, or fanfare; for those who are caught up on fanciful stories and desire mainly for an emotional outlet; for those who think that eggnog and fruitcake and parties with food is what makes a celebration; this celebration is not for you either. For you could and would celebrate at the drop of a hat. You create celebrations that are all about yourself.

    There are many reasons that people give for celebrating Christmas, but there is only one that captures the real reason, one wants to honor Christ. Yes, we could do that and should do that any and even every other day of the year. But this is a special day set aside, just one among many, for the One who came to give his life for the many. And in response to that gift we still proclaim: Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace and good will among men.

    That's why we celebrate Christmas, because Christ is worth of such a celebration.
    yeh but majority of christians celebrate christmas for presents, non go to church or anything, Its like theirs good and bad muslims out their but atleast bad muslims go to mosque every friday once a week, christians friends i got admit that they never go to church and celebrate christmas for presents. Is christmas worth celebrating? might aswell celebrate eid aswell, Good Christians who go to church deserve to celebrate and what more christians only go church when their born, getting married and when someone died.

    Christmas is a good thing it's like eid

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by SirDemonic View Post
    yeh but majority of christians celebrate christmas for presents, non go to church or anything, Its like theirs good and bad muslims out their but atleast bad muslims go to mosque every friday once a week, christians friends i got admit that they never go to church and celebrate christmas for presents. Is christmas worth celebrating? might aswell celebrate eid aswell, Good Christians who go to church deserve to celebrate and what more christians only go church when their born, getting married and when someone died.

    Christmas is a good thing it's like eid
    Yes, many times Christians will participate in the gift giving/Santa Clause side of Christmas. That doesn't mean they don't understand or acknowledge the spiritual dimension of the holiday. On a personal note, my family participates in the colored lights and gift giving on Christmas, but we also recognize the importance of the holiday as Christians, through prayer and good works. Their is the secular/cultural dimension of Christmas and the spiritual/religious side of Christmas, they aren't mutually exclusive. If you don't like Christmas, then don't celebrate it. To me and millions of other Christians it is what it is, the celebration of our Savior's birth.
    Another thing....isn't it slightly strange for a person with the screename "Sir Demonic" to be lecturing Christians about Christmas?
    Why celebrate christmas?

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by SirDemonic View Post
    http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...1143940AAykJo8

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    And also google it, if you dont bealive me =)

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    then... who advertised Santas' helpers outfit?
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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by SirDemonic View Post
    yeh but majority of christians celebrate christmas for presents, non go to church or anything, Its like theirs good and bad muslims out their but atleast bad muslims go to mosque every friday once a week, christians friends i got admit that they never go to church and celebrate christmas for presents. Is christmas worth celebrating? might aswell celebrate eid aswell, Good Christians who go to church deserve to celebrate and what more christians only go church when their born, getting married and when someone died.
    Greetings SirDemonic

    I don't know where you live. I am speaking for the UK right now, because this is where I live.

    I think you have to remember that Christmas is not just celebrated by Christians at all.
    It is also celebrated by secular Westerners, who pay very little if any heed to the Christian message.
    So many people, who celebrate Christmas are neither 'good' nor 'bad' Christians, but would not call themselves Christians at all!

    You are right, Christmas is the time when the churches are suddenly packed with people, who have not set foot inside all year!
    Does the same happen in mosques at eid?

    Personally, I would love to see the secular and the religious celebrations separated - but since that is not likely to happen the separation occurs in people's hearts.
    God knows our hearts and our intentions, he knows whether we approach Christmas with a secular mind, or whether to remember God's sacrifice to us and out of a desire to love and serve him.
    God knows best!

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Does the same happen in mosques at eid?
    Yeah... and Fridays too...
    Why celebrate christmas?

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    Glo, does your church have nativity scene?
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    Questions Re: Christmas

    thought we could have a christmas thread - questions for christians.
    couple of questions i have:
    do christians mind when we say or write "xmas"? is it insulting/offensive?
    how old is the custom of giving presents?
    also, is there any connection between the magi of the nativity story and the magians (zoroastrians)?
    thanks
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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian View Post
    Glo, does your church have nativity scene?
    No, we don't ... we don't even have a church building. We meet in a school hall.
    There are no decorations, so pictures, not even a cross - just chairs and a wooden pulpit to speak from.
    Why celebrate christmas?

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    No, we don't ... we don't even have a church building. We meet in a school hall.
    There are no decorations, so pictures, not even a cross - just chairs and a wooden pulpit to speak from.
    What's your church name?
    Why celebrate christmas?

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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    It's non-denominational
    Why celebrate christmas?

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    May God help me.
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    Re: Why celebrate christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    It's non-denominational
    So it mixed of Catholic-Protestant-Orthodox kind of church?
    Why celebrate christmas?

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    Re: Questions Re: Christmas

    "XMAS" - insulting? I thought it just making the word Christmas shorter?
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