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    Peace be upon who follow the truth and seek for it :
    It's nice to meet any one here to discuss about this question..with cultural and superior conversation .. With out fanaticism or extremism ..
    Intelligent conversation from heart to heart
    When you listen the word ( Islam ) what's the first thing you think about?
    And why ? I waiting for you all .. peace

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    Peace be upon you :
    I don't know why your answer disapeared .. Not problem thank god I read it ..
    Ms. Jayda thank you so much for this explicit answer that I regard it .
    But I have another thought about it I hope you agree with..
    First of all there is apoint if you search every page in the history pages you will find this unjust look toward women
    Maybe I don't know why .. But I think this look doesn't belong to God teaching .. It's come from our inside men and women.
    Have you ever read that the french law until 1938 prevent the women to contracting without her husband or father agreement .. Whereas islam allow her to control her money with out any authority.
    Islam freed us from this inferior look and ensure our purity and dignity ..
    Now I will leave you with this koranic verses:
    "say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
    And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms …"
    "O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them. That will be better, so that they may be recognized and not annoyed. Allah (SWT) is ever Forgiving, Merciful."

    Our god order us men and women to preserve our modesty ..
    He put in us this appetite then he congratulate it when we honor it to the right direction .. Marriage
    " Among His Signs is this, that He created you from dust; and then, behold, ye are men scattered (far and wide)
    And among His signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquillity with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are signs for those who reflect."
    As well prophet mohammad peace be upon him said :
    (Asma, when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it is not appropriate that anything besides this and this is visible of her. He said this while pointing towards his face and his hands.)Our religion doesn't order us to stay at home rather it's order us to be responsible for the society. With our family, with our children, on the streets (in public), at our jobs, with our relatives and our neighbours, these are all our responsibility.
    "O Consorts of the Prophet ye are not like any of the (other) women: if ye do fear (God), be not too complaisant of speech, lest one in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire: but speak ye a speech (that is) just "Yes it's ask us to preserve our femininity only for our good ..
    They accuse the Qur’an of directing its speech in the masculine form; therefore, some assume it is talking only to men. In actual fact, the Qur’an talks in the singular form, which is masculine, and that’s because the grammatical rules of Arabic demand that. It would be impossible to speak to both (in plural) in every verse. When Allah says in the Qur’an, what can be translated as, “..and Allah sets forth, as an example to those who believe….” , what do we expect? We expect that He mentions Prophet Noah or moses (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them) or the believer in Surat Yasin; any of the great men. But, in the Qur’an Allah says what can be translated as, “And Allah sets forth, as an example to those who believe, the wife of pharaoh….” and this verse is liable to answer the accusations that are directed to religion which presume that religion says that women are deficient in intelligence and religion.
    Where Allah says what can be translated as, And Allah sets forth, as an example to those who believe, He means to clarify for equally both men and women to follow an example in beliefs. The verse is meant to be an example to all humanity. When he gives the second example, we expect that example to be a man.
    For the second time, the role model we should take example of is a woman named Maryam (Mary), the daughter of Umran. But why does Allah want the good example of a believer on this earth to be of a woman? And why was the figure to resemble perfect submission to him to be that of a woman? Because the two main problems that lead to a corrupt world, are: 1) money and fame 2) Chastity. These are two main factors that mislead men and, eventually, the world. That’s why Allah has given us those two examples
    The wife of Pharaoh where she says what can be translated as, “she said: "O my Lord! Build for me, in nearness to Thee, a mansion in the Garden….” She says a mansion in paradise, not a castle in paradise, as she used to live in a castle on the Nile River. And her husband used to say, “Am I not the king of Egypt and all those rivers run under my feet.” She was not interested in the fame and money of Pharaoh. She refused money, glory and fame and preferred a house in Paradise. She resisted against the temptation of money and fame, and thus, is better by Allah than most men. Because of her resistance to the temptation of money and fame, she became an example for those men who let money and fame tempt and corrupt them.
    Mariam the daughter of Umran that kept her virginity. She is an example for libidinal men and woman who are tempted by the other sex. This is our religion, which heightens the value of the woman.
    There is a lot of stories in our history show us this high stature of us ..
    But this bad picture that come from abusive tradition cover this shining picture of islam .. peace
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    :laugh: where are you Ms. jayda?
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    peace!!!!!!!!
    sis mariam. here???wow!good job lol
    missing jayda too much?
    she is offline lol
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    When I hear the word "Islam" the first associated words that flash through my mind are "Surrender", "Conformity", and "Obedience".
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    format_quote Originally Posted by faizi View Post
    peace!!!!!!!!
    sis mariam. here???wow!good job lol
    missing jayda too much?
    she is offline lol
    peace be upon you:
    that's wonderful to see you here sis faizi!!
    what a charming girl you are .. thank again
    write to you soon :thankyou:
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    I guess the first thing I think of when I hear the word "Islam" is God. All the politics and dogma associated with Islam is a different issue for me. The three great monotheistic religions have more in common than anything that might divide us, and it is a great tragedy that we seem to be so alienated from each other. Imagine the world we could live in if all three religions worked together to improve our planet. Obviously we have our doctrinal differences, but that shouldn't lead to the fairly antagonistic relationship that now exists.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    I guess the first thing I think of when I hear the word "Islam" is God. All the politics and dogma associated with Islam is a different issue for me. The three great monotheistic religions have more in common than anything that might divide us, and it is a great tragedy that we seem to be so alienated from each other. Imagine the world we could live in if all three religions worked together to improve our planet. Obviously we have our doctrinal differences, but that shouldn't lead to the fairly antagonistic relationship that now exists.
    Amen to that!

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Pygoscelis View Post
    When I hear the word "Islam" the first associated words that flash through my mind are "Surrender", "Conformity", and "Obedience".
    Peace be upon who follow the truth and seek for it:
    Mr. pygoscelis thank you for your respond that I agree with.
    And I have nothing to say except this koranic verses:
    "And whoever obeys Allah and the Apostle, these are with those upon whom Allah has bestowed favors from among the prophets and the truthful and the martyrs and the good, and a goodly company are they!
    This is grace from Allah, and sufficient is Allah as the Knower."(
    4,69-70)
    "So be careful of (your duty to) Allah and set aright matters of your difference, and obey Allah and His Apostle if you are believers.
    Those only are believers whose hearts become full of fear when Allah is mentioned, and when His communications are recited to them they increase them in faith, and in their Lord do they trust.
    Those who keep up prayer and spend (benevolently) out of what We have given them.
    These are the believers in truth; they shall have from their Lord exalted grades and forgiveness and an honorable sustenance."
    (8,1-2-3-4)
    Finally I want to thank you again for your partnership that I regard .. And I ask you to read "struggling to surrender" by D. jeffery lang maybe it can help you.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    I guess the first thing I think of when I hear the word "Islam" is God. All the politics and dogma associated with Islam is a different issue for me. The three great monotheistic religions have more in common than anything that might divide us, and it is a great tragedy that we seem to be so alienated from each other. Imagine the world we could live in if all three religions worked together to improve our planet. Obviously we have our doctrinal differences, but that shouldn't lead to the fairly antagonistic relationship that now exists.
    peace be upon who follow the truth and seek for it:
    I am so happy to read your respond .. your honest words touch my heart
    :laugh:

    Imagine the world we could live in if all three religions worked together to improve our planet.
    and I ask God to make this imagination become true .. amen

    "recite that which has been revealed to you of the Book and keep up prayer; surely prayer keeps (one) away from indecency and evil, and certainly the remembrance of Allah is the greatest, and Allah knows what you do.
    And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him do we submit."


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    Re: from heart to heart with non moslem

    format_quote Originally Posted by mariam. View Post
    :laugh: where are you Ms. jayda?
    hola mariam

    i am so sorry! i thought i asked for my post to be deleted... and i did not know this thread was moved. my first post i thought might offend people so i asked for it to be taken away... but gracias for your answer, that does clear certain things up for me... but i am still concerned this topic will turn heated quickly so perhaps it is best we leave it with your kind explanation...

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