I believe in God, will i not gain salvation?

That's weird. I didn't put this as a new thread, I put it inside someone's post, can't remember which. It's also been edited from the word "punishment"

Hi England.


I've moved your thread because it wasn't as relevant to the previous topic. You can discuss it here more insha'Allaah.



Let's start off with the fact that the majority of the world believes in a God, or 'Higher being.' The difference between islaam and all other faiths is that instead of just recognising that there is a God, we believe that the Creator created us with the purpose of submitting to Him, worshipping Him alone sincerely without any associates.


These associates can be stone idols, it can be humans (or human legislations) it can be a person's desires etc.



Islaam call's to the worship of God, known as Allaah in arabic. If you're confused about why God is Allaah in arabic, realise that people from spain call God - Dios, the french call God - Dieu etc. Therefore we call God, Allaah in arabic.


Allaah has sent messengers to convey the same message of calling to the worship of God since the beginning of time, since Adam (peace be upon him) the first person to ever live. All the messengers came to call to Allaah's worship, and this is the purpose of our creation - to worship Allaah, without no associates, so no idols, no humans, no law which opposes the law which Allaah has revealed to His messengers.


We as muslims believe that Noah, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad (peace be upon them all) were prophets. There have been a total of 124,000 prophets that have come to mankind to call to the worship of Allaah Alone. However, the majority of mankind has fallen astray, because they do believe in a Creator, but they reject the fact that He should be worshipped alone.


You as a christian may feel that Jesus is God, but we don't believe that God would humiliate himself on the earth by His own creation. That is blasphemy according to all faiths. Because God is All Powerful, and the creation can not harm Him whatsoever.



Any deeds we do, we do them sincerely to gain Allaah's Mercy, and if we gain it - we will enter the eternal paradise which all the prophets have called to also. However, if someone rejects the worship of the One God - without any associates, they will be punished in the hellfire. This is the only sin which God does not forgive, why should He, if the person is saying that a stone is God? Or a human is God etc.



We all will die and be raised back on the day of recompense, when Allaah/God will judge between us on all that we did. No-one will be judged unfairly because Allaah is the Most Just. Allaah can bring the dead back to life, the same way He brings the dead land back to life by sending down rain.



If you feel that God is being unfair to His servants by punishing those that associate partners with Him, then the justice for this will also be balanced out. Allaah will ask those who associated partners with Him to ask the one's they worshipped for reward. So if someone worshipped a stone idol, they will ask that for recompense on the day of judgement (obviously the stone won't be able to do anything.) If someone worships a human, even if the human is pious, the person will have to get their reward from this human [but obviously everything is dependant on the Creator.] The one's who worshipped God Alone, sincerely without no associates - they will be rewarded by Allaah, the Exhalted with an eternal paradise where they can have all that they desire, and more.



If anyone feels that it is unjust, then they have to stop being unjust to their own Creator. If Allaah created man so he should worship Him, then why worship the stone idol, or why worship a human when you can turn towards your Creator?




Allaah Almighty knows best.



Regards.

Christians believe Jesus is God? That's far from the truth. Jesus is the son of God.
I believe in spiritualism and I've been to spiritualist churches and I have received many messages from family members that have passed. I had messages of "I'm in a better world," and "I'm young again, we're being looked after." These messages convinced me because they said stuff that no-one but me would have known, such as a cribbage board I found in the cupboard not long before that. My family members are Christians and haven't followed Islam. It seems they never met their fate....?

Hi England.


I've heard many times on this forum christians claiming that Jesus is god, due to the trinity. The trinity cannot be a whole unless it has the 3 aspects of the father, the son and the spirit.

When a person responds that these 3 aspects are a form of polytheism, the christians say that it is one God, which then means that Jesus is god according to christians. Anyway, theres many threads regarding trinity so i don't want to go too deep into that.


Regarding your family members, if they were sincere in wanting to search for the truth, it is by Allaah's/God's Mercy that He would guide them to the truth. If the people did not hear about islaam, then on the day of ressurection, the scholars say that these people will be tested by God and if they pass this test - they may gain the salvation etc. respectively.



I respect the signs that you recieved, and faith is a really important part of islaam, external proof and action is equally as important. And Allaah Almighty knows best.



Regards.

format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi

Perhaps you follow a different belief system, but the majority of Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God, albeit in human form. This has been explained numerous times in other threads, so I won't get into it again here.

I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that he was sent by God to provide salvation and reconciliation with God by atoning for the sins of humanity by his death.

Salaam,

Let them sort it out first then we can discuss,if not if we call each of them chrsitian,we will get another thread admonishing us not to refer to the toehr as Christians..LOLOL

But back to topic...

An open question,if a tree fall down in the jungle and no one has knowledge of it,,did it actually fall down?

Man need senses and logic to understand and verify..

So the better question is,if a person who does not know god,does not do ungodly thing,but remain cheerfula nd good and do good deeds,,,will they enter heaven ....if they have never heard of Islam.or their own race religion?

format_quote Originally Posted by aamirsaab

At the end of the day, God will decide our fate.

P.s; you could very well become a muslim by tomorrow night. You never know .

Nah. I'm sorry but I don't believe that we're put on this earth as a slave to God. The messages from relatives throught spiritualism has further backed up my opinion.
I believe that if you're good on earth, do God proud for helping people, not committing serious crimes, recognising that God exists then God will accept you and let you into heaven. If you commit terrorism, murder, child abuse and full of hate etc then you will not be accepted by God.

God has helped me through certain aspects of my life, and I appreciate that.

Hey England.


Does that mean that George Bush won't gain salvation if he's attacking innocents? Or people who do sin? Because doesn't every single person do sin?

And also, what was the 'salvation' for if anyone can enter heaven? No offence intended.

But why can't it just be through God Himself? Like, if God got humiliated by his own creation - isn't that blasphemy? Can't God just forgive His slaves if they turn to Him sincerely?


I seriosly don't want you to feel that i'm attacking you, but this all depends on our whole eternal hereafter so its something serios we all gota think about (something i have to think deeply about aswell.)



Regards.