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    Is there a Creator ? (OP)


    In The Name Of Allah, Most Gracious and Most Merciful

    As’salamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh



    All praise is due to Allah: and blessings and peace be upon His messenger and servant, Prophet Mohammad (s) and upon his family and companions and whoever follows his guidance until the Day of Resurrection.



    Is there a Creator ?!


    We will answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you, you will have no choice but to follow it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “We created you, then why do you believe not?
    Then tell Me (about) the human semen that you emit.
    Is it you who create it (i.e., make this semen into a perfect human being), or are We the Creator?
    We have decreed death unto you all, and We are not unable,
    To transfigure you and create you in (forms) that you know not.
    And indeed, you have already known the first form of creation (i.e., the creation of Adam). Why then do you not remember or take heed?
    Tell Me! The seed that you sow in the ground.
    Is it you that make it grow, or are We the Grower?
    Were it Our Will, We could crumble it to dry pieces, and you would be regretful (or left in wonderment),
    (Saying), ‘We are indeed Mughramoon (i.e., ruined, or lost the money without any profit, or punished by the loss of all that we spent for cultivation, etc.)!
    ‘Nay, but we are deprived!’
    Tell Me! The water that you drink,
    Is it you who cause it from the rainclouds to come down, or are We the Causer of it to come down?
    If We willed, We verily could make it salt (and undrinkable). Why then do you not give thanks (to Allaah)?
    Tell Me! The fire which you kindle,
    Is it you who made the tree thereof to grow, or are We the Grower?
    We have made it a Reminder (for the Hell-fire, in the Hereafter); and an article of use for the travellers (and all others, in this world).
    The glorify with praises the Name of your Lord, the Most Great.
    So I swear by mawaaqi’ (setting to the mansions, etc.) of the stars (they traverse),
    And verily, that is indeed a great oath, if you but knew,
    That (this) is indeed an honourable recital (the Noble Qur’aan).” [Quran 56:57-77]


    Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
    Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief. Or are with them the treasures of your Lord? Or are they the tyrants with the authority to do as they like?” [Quran 52:35-37]


    “Verily, the creation of the heavens and the earth, and in the alternation of night and day, and the ships which sail through the sea with that which is of use to mankind, and the water (rain) which Allaah sends down from the sky and makes the earth alive therewith after its death, and the moving (living) creatures of all kinds that He has scattered therein, and in the veering of winds and clouds which are held between the sky and the earth, are indeed aayaat (proofs, evidences, signs) for people of understanding.” [Quran 2:164]


    “It is He Who sends down water (rain) from the sky, and with it We bring forth vegetation of all kinds, and out of it We bring forth green stalks, from which We bring forth thick clustered grain. And out of the date-palm and its spathe come forth clusters of dates hanging low and near, and gardens of grapes, olives and pomegranates, each similar (in kind) yet different (in variety and taste). Look at their fruits when they begin to bear, and the ripeness thereof. Verily! In these things there are signs for people who believe.” [Quran 6:99]


    “And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain), till when they have carried a heavy-laden cloud, We drive it to a land that is dead, then We cause water (rain) to descend thereon. Then We produce every kind of fruit therewith. Similarly, We shall raise up the dead, so that you may remember or take heed.” [Quran 7:57]


    “Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)!” [Quran 27:60]


    “He has created the heavens and the earth without any pillars that you see, and has set on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with you. And He has scattered therein moving (living) creatures of all kinds. And We send down water (rain) from the sky, and We cause (plants) of every goodly kind to grow therein.” [Quran 31:10]


    And the two seas (kinds of water) are not alike, this fresh, sweet and pleasant to drink, and that saltish and bitter. And from them both you eat fresh tender meat (fish), and derive the ornaments that you wear. And you see the ships cleaving (the sea-water as they sail through it), that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may give thanks.” [Quran 35:12]


    And it is He Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water), one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter, and He has set a barrier and a complete partition between them.” [Quran 25:53]


    This is a selection of clear aayaat that include the answer to your question. We invite you to join the community of the believers and to enter the religion of Islam which Allaah has chosen as the religion for all mankind. Peace be upon those who follow true Guidance.

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    Just to return to the original topic.

    If you ask an Athiest if a car is designed and manufactured he would say yes.

    If you asked an Atheist if this beautiful and wonderful world that we live in is designed and made he says no its just coincidence!!

    I sometimes think that you need more faith to be an Athiest than to be a Muslim!

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    Re: Is there a Creator ?


    format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl
    The Makkan idolaters offered Prophet Muhammad saws all the bounties of the world if he would stop preaching his message, but he refused. Such was his piety and sincerity to God,
    He (SWH) wasnt just offered one woman he was offered any of them he desired, and to be the ruler of mekkah. Muhammed (SWH) was the truthful and did not desire and chase dunya, he established the religion of truth and did what was commanded of him by the Almighty.

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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    If you ask an Athiest if a car is designed and manufactured he would say yes.

    If you asked an Atheist if this beautiful and wonderful world that we live in is designed and made he says no its just coincidence!!
    I think the atheist who gave such a response would be hard to find. I would probably show you the first car ever manufactured then show you the very latest cutting edge car and ask you to show me where like our "Buetiful World" could he show me the creator evolving his creation like the car evolved?
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by root
    I think the atheist who gave such a response would be hard to find. I would probably show you the first car ever manufactured then show you the very latest cutting edge car and ask you to show me where like our "Buetiful World" could he show me the creator evolving his creation like the car evolved?
    You spelt 'beautiful' wrong.

    And that is all I shall say since I am feeling particularly pedantic today
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    I would probably show you the first car ever manufactured then show you the very latest cutting edge car and ask you to show me where like our "Buetiful World" could he show me the creator evolving his creation like the car evolved?
    the car didn't evolve itself.Someone caused it to evolve.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    the car didn't evolve itself.Someone caused it to evolve.
    Your right.

    The evolution of a car "by progressive improvement" does share a similarity with evolution. Slow and progressive improvement within it's environment.

    "I mean it's not as if a car suddenly appeared pre-built in perfect order and with the engine running........."

    You spelt 'beautiful' wrong.

    And that is all I shall say since I am feeling particularly pedantic today
    Your right, I did.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    "I mean it's not as if a car suddenly appeared pre-built in perfect order and with the engine running........."
    Men first created the car then evolved it.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    Men first created the car then evolved it.
    I agree................

    Am I missing the point?
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    aslaam alkyum,

    how can you say that there is no creator?

    no dont answer that, i think i know why, becsaue you cant concieve the idea of an enternal being that is perfect, becssue the world is is not erternal, nor is it perfect. Well dont try to concieve that, becsue trying to concieve that, is like trying to put the atlantic ocean in to a cup, its not goignt o happen.

    wa alkyum aslaam
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    no dont answer that, i think i know why,
    OK, I won't answer that. You can carry on living in ignorance of what you think other people think rarther than know what other people think!

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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    aslaam alkyum,

    thanks for the invitaion.

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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    Am I missing the point?
    my point is there is a creator.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Aziz
    the car didn't evolve itself.Someone caused it to evolve.

    Perpahs, I am missing something here, but can you explain that how you can cause something to "evolve" that was created from scratch to end, not to mention it happens for each car when it is built? That is why we use words like "built", "manufacturing" and "car builder/car manufacturer" etc.


    If man evolved than why man procreates?



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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    oh I get the point.

    I meant that the model of the car evolved.the idea evolved.well could have made a mistake like I always do.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    If man evolved than why man procreates?
    Don't see your point?
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Preacher
    If man evolved than why man procreates?


    Response by "root."

    format_quote Originally Posted by root
    Don't see your point?
    How convenient and how selective?

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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    Preacher, I don't see your point either.

    Evolution and procreation are two different things. Evolution is the gradual adaptation of a species to its environment. Procreation is the reproduction of the individual members of a species.

    Of course I believe in Allah, I'm just finding difficulty seeing your point here.

    Oh, wait... I kinda see it now, but it's still sort of strange. Procreation still doesn't mean man wouldn't evolve - indeed, adaptations take a few generations to manifest themselves. So while evolution and procreation are two different procesesses, both are interlinked.

    (important note: I'm not talking about evolution as in the theory of man evolving from apes, but evolution in the sense of gradual adaptation e.g. the fact that we no longer use our appendix)
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by root
    I agree................

    Am I missing the point?



    Yes, that is why you are an Aethiest.

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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abubakar


    Yes, that is why you are an Aethiest.

    I don't fully understand Preacher's point either. Does that make me an atheist?
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    And who can make the deaf hear, but Allah (SWT)? He guides whom He pleases, and leaves in error whom he pleases.

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