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    Is there a Creator ? (OP)


    In The Name Of Allah, Most Gracious and Most Merciful

    As’salamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh



    All praise is due to Allah: and blessings and peace be upon His messenger and servant, Prophet Mohammad (s) and upon his family and companions and whoever follows his guidance until the Day of Resurrection.



    Is there a Creator ?!


    We will answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you, you will have no choice but to follow it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “We created you, then why do you believe not?
    Then tell Me (about) the human semen that you emit.
    Is it you who create it (i.e., make this semen into a perfect human being), or are We the Creator?
    We have decreed death unto you all, and We are not unable,
    To transfigure you and create you in (forms) that you know not.
    And indeed, you have already known the first form of creation (i.e., the creation of Adam). Why then do you not remember or take heed?
    Tell Me! The seed that you sow in the ground.
    Is it you that make it grow, or are We the Grower?
    Were it Our Will, We could crumble it to dry pieces, and you would be regretful (or left in wonderment),
    (Saying), ‘We are indeed Mughramoon (i.e., ruined, or lost the money without any profit, or punished by the loss of all that we spent for cultivation, etc.)!
    ‘Nay, but we are deprived!’
    Tell Me! The water that you drink,
    Is it you who cause it from the rainclouds to come down, or are We the Causer of it to come down?
    If We willed, We verily could make it salt (and undrinkable). Why then do you not give thanks (to Allaah)?
    Tell Me! The fire which you kindle,
    Is it you who made the tree thereof to grow, or are We the Grower?
    We have made it a Reminder (for the Hell-fire, in the Hereafter); and an article of use for the travellers (and all others, in this world).
    The glorify with praises the Name of your Lord, the Most Great.
    So I swear by mawaaqi’ (setting to the mansions, etc.) of the stars (they traverse),
    And verily, that is indeed a great oath, if you but knew,
    That (this) is indeed an honourable recital (the Noble Qur’aan).” [Quran 56:57-77]


    Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
    Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief. Or are with them the treasures of your Lord? Or are they the tyrants with the authority to do as they like?” [Quran 52:35-37]


    “Verily, the creation of the heavens and the earth, and in the alternation of night and day, and the ships which sail through the sea with that which is of use to mankind, and the water (rain) which Allaah sends down from the sky and makes the earth alive therewith after its death, and the moving (living) creatures of all kinds that He has scattered therein, and in the veering of winds and clouds which are held between the sky and the earth, are indeed aayaat (proofs, evidences, signs) for people of understanding.” [Quran 2:164]


    “It is He Who sends down water (rain) from the sky, and with it We bring forth vegetation of all kinds, and out of it We bring forth green stalks, from which We bring forth thick clustered grain. And out of the date-palm and its spathe come forth clusters of dates hanging low and near, and gardens of grapes, olives and pomegranates, each similar (in kind) yet different (in variety and taste). Look at their fruits when they begin to bear, and the ripeness thereof. Verily! In these things there are signs for people who believe.” [Quran 6:99]


    “And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain), till when they have carried a heavy-laden cloud, We drive it to a land that is dead, then We cause water (rain) to descend thereon. Then We produce every kind of fruit therewith. Similarly, We shall raise up the dead, so that you may remember or take heed.” [Quran 7:57]


    “Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)!” [Quran 27:60]


    “He has created the heavens and the earth without any pillars that you see, and has set on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with you. And He has scattered therein moving (living) creatures of all kinds. And We send down water (rain) from the sky, and We cause (plants) of every goodly kind to grow therein.” [Quran 31:10]


    And the two seas (kinds of water) are not alike, this fresh, sweet and pleasant to drink, and that saltish and bitter. And from them both you eat fresh tender meat (fish), and derive the ornaments that you wear. And you see the ships cleaving (the sea-water as they sail through it), that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may give thanks.” [Quran 35:12]


    And it is He Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water), one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter, and He has set a barrier and a complete partition between them.” [Quran 25:53]


    This is a selection of clear aayaat that include the answer to your question. We invite you to join the community of the believers and to enter the religion of Islam which Allaah has chosen as the religion for all mankind. Peace be upon those who follow true Guidance.

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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by YoussefinOrange
    And who can make the deaf hear, but Allah (SWT)? He guides whom He pleases, and leaves in error whom he pleases.

    Assalaamu alaikum
    So true.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    But I am missing some key points in many arguments.

    One thing I see a lot from everyone is the phrase "man creates ____" or man created ____.

    Since when? Man can't create anything. In fact, we can barely preserve what we already have of natural resources, the source of all our material things.

    Secondly, there is no need for any of us to get worked up over this subject. Don't call eachother names... if we are going to get any information exchanged here, keep emotions away please.

    I am so happy to be a Muslim because I have the peace of mind that comes with having access to a manifest proof from Allah (SWT) through the Qur'an.

    The only reason anyone would not be Muslim is if he did not know enough about Islam, and that is the fault of only that person, and only they will accept the consequences of their denial.

    'Authu billahi min sharri shaytan al rajime
    If you don't believe in Allah, and the Last day, and his Messengers, then wait. Surely we too are also waiting.

    Salaamu Alaikum
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    The only reason anyone would not be Muslim is if he did not know enough about Islam, and that is the fault of only that person, and only they will accept the consequences of their denial.
    Quite an arrogant view you have thier
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by root
    Quite an arrogant view you have thier
    Quite a strange form of spelling you have there
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by root
    The very beginning being what exactly? To make the comparison you are making is at odd's with what you are saying!
    How so?

    Ansar has recently said that creation and evolution are not mutually exclusive necessarily. There has to be a starting point for the evolution, and that starting point was created. It did not simply come into being of its own accord.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    How so?

    Ansar has recently said that creation and evolution are not mutually exclusive necessarily. There has to be a starting point for the evolution, and that starting point was created. It did not simply come into being of its own accord.
    But your premis then is to accept that evolution of man is real, and that we evolved into man and thus man was not created. Or man evolved in his form following a "blue print" of creationism.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by root
    But your premis then is to accept that evolution of man is real, and that we evolved into man
    So? This thread topic is about if there is a Creator, not if Darwinian theory is correct.

    and thus man was not created.
    No... As was said earlier, evolution and creation are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

    Or man evolved in his form following a "blue print" of creationism.
    And why not? Following on from Muhammad's point about evolution on a microscopic level, the genetic material needs an origin of some sort. Things do not simply appear out of nothing. Something must have caused them to exist. That something must have been a Creator.

    If you think not, then we are extraordinarily lucky creatures to have survived this long.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    I don't mean to spam but.....

    Allah didn't create man through evolution but man was a separate creation right?
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    Allah didn't create man through evolution but man was a separate creation right?
    From what we know of ancestory evolution. Their is nothing at all to remotely support man as being "unique" or part of a seperate entity. Though I personally have a hunch that the origin of life is not even on this planet but in the cold vacuum of space itself.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by root
    From what we know of ancestory evolution. Their is nothing at all to remotely support man as being "unique" or part of a seperate entity. Though I personally have a hunch that the origin of life is not even on this planet but in the cold vacuum of space itself.
    That notion is so cool. It makes us all feel like a population of Supermen.

    Except instead of Kryptonite, we have arsenic.

    Or garlic if you're Michael Howard.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    From what we know of ancestory evolution. Their is nothing at all to remotely support man as being "unique" or part of a seperate entity. Though I personally have a hunch that the origin of life is not even on this planet but in the cold vacuum of space itself.
    Ansar made a statement about that God could have created men through evolution and the question was directed to him and I think he already have answered that.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    Ah, I see.

    Well, we could say "man created God"!!!!!!

    But deliberate dishonesty aside, there's still a difference in mindset between science and more genuine kinds of religion. Differing definitions of 'faith' and 'truth' are big parts of it.

    In a religious context, 'faith' and 'truth' are almost synonyms. And faith is automatically good. If an idea is considered truth in your religion, and you don't have faith in it, that's a reflection on your failure as a faith-holder rather than the idea's failure to be true. If you don't have enough faith on a given subject, you should work harder at it.

    In the sciences, that kind of faith is not a virtue; it's a personal failing. Imagine a bridge engineer being invited to "have more faith" that a design has enough steel in it to keep his bridge from collapsing. His faith has nothing to do with it; either the bridge stays up, or it falls down. Faith in the sense of 'letting yourself be persuaded without adequate evidence' is morally wrong in that context. If the bridge engineer does so, and people die in the collapse, he's murdered them.

    Scientists, or the good ones, feel the same way about their theories that good engineers feel about their bridges. It's their job to make them right, not to convince themselves for their own emotional comfort that they're already right, pretty much, close enough.

    If a scientist says "I have faith this theory is true," he doesn't or shouldn't mean it in the religious sense of "I commit myself to this no matter what the evidence may say, forever. Don't try to change my mind, here I stand."

    Instead, he means or ought to mean "I've tested this theory, and I've seen the results of other people's tests, and I'm as sure as I can possibly get on the available evidence that this theory is as close to right as we can get. Unless something else really radical turns up. Keep me posted."

    Which, incidentally, is one reason why scientists in their professional personas are very sparing with words like 'faith' and 'truth'. Just as the bridge engineer is supposed to know exact breaking strains rather than "probably close enough," scientists are expected to be able to state exactly how confident they are in a given proposition and why they feel that confidence. Faith and truth imply absolutes, which in a scientific context implies glossing over small details that might contradict those absolutes.
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    [17:36] You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.

    [39:18] They are the ones who examine all words, then follow the best. These are the ones whom GOD has guided; these are the ones who possess intelligence.
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    [17:36] You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.
    As a small point to what you state. How do you verify for yourself the splitting of the moon?
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    Re: Is there a Creator ?

    well Muezzin said once "There is no evidence I dreamt about pancakes last night but it stll happened".

    You can't scientifically prove a miracle or a something like a spiritual happening.

    Ansd I ask a lot of guys especially Ansar.as i believe in the Quran I accept it.Not blindly though.There was a thread about this in basics of Islam where I asked questions.
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