hi.
it's just as the title suggests. no nasty comments please.
has it helped you to understand the community of muslims (if any) around you? or even as a whole
has it made your heart more leniant towards islam/muslims. in what way.
has it made your heart more hatred towrds islam/muslims?
Your comments dont have to be neccesarily in response to the above questions. feel free to add your own.
Like i said, no nasty comments please. just say something like, it hasn't had a positive affect in me.
has it helped you to understand the community of muslims (if any) around you? or even as a whole
Yes, in a great many ways.
has it made your heart more leniant towards islam/muslims. in what way.
I suppose so, although I don't really think 'lenient' is the right word.. it rather implies muslims have done something wrong. I'm no more convinced as to the truth of Islam, though, I'm afraid.
has it made your heart more hatred towrds islam/muslims?
has it helped you to understand the community of muslims (if any) around you? or even as a whole. Yes it has, its shown me a lot of the spectrum of different muslims.
has it made your heart more leniant towards islam/muslims. in what way. I understand muslims a better, but as Trumble stated I don't know if leniant is the right word for your question.
has it made your heart more hatred towrds islam/muslims? I don't have hatred toward islam/muslims in general so I'd say no.
I don't know if its changed my opinion about islam per se, but it has helped my understanding of structure, differing opinions, etc.
Coming here as a recent revert, has helped me to learn to practice what I had learned. Initially not being around many Muslims,I had little experience on how to interact with other Muslims. It gave me the chance to learn the proper way to interact with my Brothers and Sisters.
The forum helped me through my early growing pains and come to an understanding of what it means to live as a Muslim. It has also given me a whole community of Brothers and Sisters to share life with.
has it helped you to understand the community of muslims (if any) around you? or even as a whole
It certainly has!
The reason I came to LI was to understand about Islam, so I could relate to and interact with my Muslim neighbours better. Although there are many Muslims in my neighbourhood, they keep themselves very much to themselves, and I seemed unable to make contact with them.
Here in LI I am just another member of a community, and I can move freely and learn about Islam as well as share my own thoughts, feelings, beliefs etc.
That's exactly what I wish I could do with my 'real' Muslim neighbours in my 'real' community.
has it made your heart more leniant towards islam/muslims. in what way.
Being here has confirmed my initial belief that Muslims and Christians truly do worship they same God, although in different ways.
I have developed a great appreciation for how eagerly many Muslims seem to want to serve God, and how dedicated they are to their faith.
I have also learned how many values and beliefs our religions share.
has it made your heart more hatred towrds islam/muslims?
I never did hate Muslims before, and I don't now.
Jesus said 'Love your neighbour as you love yourself' - so how can I hate my Muslim brothers and sisters???
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I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
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I come here because I had many questions about Islam and of course I learned a few things.
Having questions means also expressing doubts or asking counter-questions, but sad to say, as soon as I express doubts, I get immediately insulted or get bad PM's from people.
LI didn't change my opinion about Islam.
Im Always Right,Its Like,When Im Right,Im Right,And When Im Wrong,I Could've Been Right,So Im Still Right,'Cause I Could've Been Wrong!
If I start moving posts that should be an indication to stop it guys! Not to continue posting about it. Let it go, swallow it up, be the bigger man, ignore it, whatever you do, don't take the thread even more off topic. This is clearly not what it was intended for.
Last edited by Abdul Fattah; 09-13-2007 at 02:53 PM.
[QUOTE=maryam11;827294]hi.
it's just as the title suggests. no nasty comments please.{/quote]
has it helped you to understand the community of muslims (if any) around you? or even as a whole
It has definitely helped me understand the community of muslims in general and those around me as well.
I wish that Muslims in general were more open to associating with non-Muslims. The Muslim individuals I have met have such a strong faith, that they certainly need to have no fear that their faith would be in any way be diluted. It would, however, help to bring about more tolerance and acceptance of Muslims in the West.
has it made your heart more leniant towards islam/muslims. in what way.
Like others, I don't think "lenient" is the right word. I would say that through better understanding, my feelings towards muslims have become more friendly than they were before. However, I never felt any animosity towards Muslims in the first place.
has it made your heart more hatred towrds islam/muslims?
Absolutely not.
LI unlike other Islamic forums I have visited, is very open to divergent opinions and very welcoming to non-Muslims with an interest in Islam.
I come here because I had many questions about Islam and of course I learned a few things.
Having questions means also expressing doubts or asking counter-questions, but sad to say, as soon as I express doubts, I get immediately insulted or get bad PM's from people.
LI didn't change my opinion about Islam.
Yes, then maybe you should think about what you post, i have seen many of your comments, and i have to say, many of them are not so pleasant.
I was trying to post this before Ramadan, but found the Comparative Religion section closed, and made an incorrect conclusion about my status here.
This forum has challenged my religious beliefs. One normally believes the first thing that one is taught even if it is erroneous. This forum has caused me to do in-depth research in the teachings of the Bible and the Qu'ran for which I am very grateful.
This forum has also revealed a very important idea. Muslims basically believe that the Qu'ran is correct and the Bible is incorrect, and Christians believe the opposite. However, none are willing to examine the possibility that they may both be right.
However, none are willing to examine the possibility that they may both be right.
Not sure about that. I think it has probably been examined in some depth elsewhere, if not here. I think the general consensus is that, despite considerable common ground, they are simply not compatable. The most fundamental belief of each (aside from the basic monotheistic tenet) - in one case the divinity and the Passion of Christ and in the other the Qur'an as the final Revelation of God given to Mohammed - just can't be fitted into the structure of the other religion. If you accept the former, the latter must be wrong, and vice versa.
However, none are willing to examine the possibility that they may both be right.
I agree with Trumble.
It seems that the Qu'ran is explicitly clear in teaching that Jesus was a man and prophet only, and not God - and that anybody who believes otherwise commits the terrible sin of shirk.
The New Testament is very clearl in teaching that Jesus is God - and that anybody who refuses to believe in him cannot enter the kingdom of God.
Those two opposing views cannot possibly be both right ... how can they?
(Although I hear that with God all things are possible ....! )
Peace
Peace glo
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
Come, let us worship and bow down •
and kneel before the Lord our Maker
[Psalm 95]
Some might be shocked and disheartened to find this among the things that I have learned from LI. (I know I was.) But I have learned that while the majority of Muslims themselves are friendly, Islam itself is basically more hostile to Christianity than I thought. And that more Muslims than I realized are hostile to anything associated with western culture, simply because it is western.
Some might be shocked and disheartened to find this among the things that I have learned from LI. (I know I was.) But I have learned that while the majority of Muslims themselves are friendly, Islam itself is basically more hostile to Christianity than I thought. And that more Muslims than I realized are hostile to anything associated with western culture, simply because it is western.
I dont think Islam is hostile towards Christians? Islam teaches us that the most closest people to the Believers are the Christians (i forget what surah). And also that the Christains among them are people who love to learn and worship the One God. You see God All Mighty hates on thing and thats the assocciation of others with him. Thats why you see many Muslims being negative towards our Christian Friends. This is the Users fualt not the ISLAM.
You see All the Prophets tought on thing, Oness of God and to worship him, And Jesus PBUH said that he came to uphold this Law and not to breake it.
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
I dont think Islam is hostile towards Christians? Islam teaches us that the most closest people to the Believers are the Christians (i forget what surah). And also that the Christains among them are people who love to learn and worship the One God. You see God All Mighty hates on thing and thats the assocciation of others with him. Thats why you see many Muslims being negative towards our Christian Friends. This is the Users fualt not the ISLAM.
I think all you are doing is confirming Grace Seeker's point. The divinity of Christ is a, if not the, core belief of Christianity. As Christians must hold that belief to be Christians how can it be their 'fault'? It can only be that from a purely muslim perspective, which is hardly what tolerance and mutual understanding are about. They are 'negative' simply because they don't happen to agree.
It's no different from, or better than, saying that Christians are 'negative' towards muslims because muslims have the false belief that the final revelation of God was given to Mohammed, and that that is the 'fault' of muslims, not Christianity.
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