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    (Dr. Zakir) (Arabic)…Respected Elders and my dear Brothers and Sisters, I welcome all of you with the Islamic greetings, Assalmu Alikum Wa Rahmatullahi, Wa Barakathu. May Peace, Blessings and Mercy of Almighty God be on all of you. The Non-Muslims may be wondering that, what was I murmuring or uttering in the beginning of my talk. I was not trying to mesmerize you, or hypnotize you, but I was reciting few verses of the Holy Qur’an from Surah Taha, Ch. No. 20, verses No. 25 and 28. When Allah Subhana Wa Taala, Almighty God asks Prophet Moses (peace be upon him) to deliver the message to the Pharoah, Moses (peace be upon him), he prays to Almighty God, Allah Subhana Wa Taala, and recites these verses. (Arabic)…. ‘Oh my Lord expand my breast for me, Expand my center for me, (Arabic)… And make my task easy for me,(Arabic)… And remove the impediment from my speech’. Since we know that Prophet Moses (peace be upon him) was a stamerer, was a stuterer - So he prays to the Almighty God to remove the stamering, to loosen his tongue, as well as remove the barrier, if there is any between him, and the person to whom he is going to deliver the message.

    If a person is giving a talk, on other religions, those people in the audience who do not belong to that religion, they may think that this person is going to speak against their Religion. For example, if suppose, a Hindu is giving a talk on other Religions, the Non-Hindus may feel that, he is going to speak against my Religion. If a Christian is giving a talk on other Religions, the Non-Christians may feel that, he is going to speak against my religion. Similarly, I being a Muslim, when I am giving a talk on other Religions, the Non-Muslims may feel, that I am going to speak against their Religion. That is the reason, I am praying to Allah Subhana Wa Taala, Almighty God, to loosen my tongue as well as remove the impediment, the barrier - mental or otherwise, if there is any, between me and you.

    The topic of this morning’s talk is… ‘Concept of God in Major Religions’. ‘Religion’… according to the Oxford Dictionary means…‘A belief in a Super Human controlling power, especially a personal God or gods, that deserve obedience and worship’. The Qari, Brother Ashraf Muhamedy, he recited few verses of the Holy Qur’an from Surah Al Imran, Ch. No.3, V. No. 64, which says…(Arabic)… ‘Say to the people of the book’ (Arabic)… ‘that come to common terms as between us and you’ Which is the first term? (Arabic)…‘that we worship none but Allah’. (Arabic)…‘that we associate no partners with Him’. (Arabic)…‘that we erect not among ourselves, Lords and Patrons, other than Allah’. (Arabic)…‘if then they turn back’. (Arabic)…‘say we bear witness’. (Arabic)… ‘that we are Muslims bowing our will to Allah Subhana Wa Taala’.

    This is a verse of the Holy Qur’an which shows you a way how to speak with people of different communities. It says : (Arabic)…‘That came to common terms as between us and you’. Which is the first term? (Arabic)….‘That we worship none but Allah’ (Arabic)… ‘that we associate no partners with Him’. One thing common in all the Major Religions of the world is, that the God they worship, they believe He is the same God for them, as well as for the others. For eg… the God which the Hindus worship, they believe He is the same God for the Hindus as well as for the Non-Hindus. The God which the Christians worship, they believe He is the same God, for the Christians as well as for the Non-Christians. Similarly the God…Allah Subhana Wa Taala which we Muslims worship, we believe He is the same Allah Subhana Wa Taala for the Muslims, as well as for the Non-Muslims. The Major Religions of the world can be broadly classified as : Semetic Religions and Non Semetic Religions.

    The Non Semetic Religions are further divided into Aryan and the Non Aryan Religions. The Semetic Religions are those Religions that are followed by the Semites. Who are the Semites? The Semites are the descendents of ‘Shem’, who was the son of Prophet Noah (Peace be upon him) which is mentioned in the Bible, in the book Genesis, Ch. No. 5 and Ch.No. 11. So Semetic Religions are those Religions, that are followed by the Jews, by the Arabs, by the Asyrians by the Ponysians - who speak Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Acadians, Ponysians, etc. The major amongst the Semetic Religions are, Judaism, Christianity and Islam - all of which are Prophetic Religions. The Non Sematic Religions are further divided into Aryan and Non-Aryan Religions. The Aryan Religions, are the Religions followed by the Aryans - a group of Indo-European speaking community, which spread in Iran and Northern India, in the 1st half of the 2nd millenium B.C, that is 2000 to 1500 B.C. The Aryan Religion is further divided into Vedic and Non - Vedic Religion. The Vedic religion is ‘Brahaminism’ which has been given the misnomer of Hindusium.

    The Non-Vedic Religions, are Sikhism, Buddism, Jainism, etc. Amongst the Non-Aryan Religions, we have those of the Chinese origin like ‘Taoism’, ‘Confusism’, etc - those of the Japanese origin, like ‘Shintuism’, etc. But most of these Religions, they do not have a concept of God. Therefore they are preferably called as ethical systems, instead of Religions. As far as my talk today will be concerned, I will be speaking about the Concept of God in Major Religions, of ‘Semetic’ and ‘Aryan’ origin. To understand the concept of God, the best and the most accurate way is to analyze their Religious Scriptures, and understand what it has to speak about God. Trying to analyze the concept of God, by looking at the followers is not always correct, because most of the followers they themselves do not know what their Scripture speaks about God. So let us, analyze today, the concept of God in Major Religions by analyzing their Religious Scriptures. First we will discuss the Aryan Religion. Hinduism is the most popular of all the Aryan religions.

    And if you ask a common Hindu, that… How many gods does he believe in? Some may say 3, some may say 33, some may say a 1000, while the others may say, 33 crores, 330 million. But if you ask, a Hindu learned man, who knows his Religious Scriptures, he will tell you that a Hindu should actually believe, only in God. The major difference between the common Hindu and the Muslim is that, the common Hindu believes in a Philosophy known as ‘Pantheism’ - that is, everything is god. The tree is god, the sun is god, the moon is god, the snake is god, the monkey is god, the human beings are god. The Muslim believes that everything is God’s - GOD with an Apostofy ‘S’, everything belongs to God. The tree belongs to God, the sun belongs to God, the moon belongs to God, the snake belongs to God, the monkey belongs to God, the human beings belong to God. So the major difference between the common Hindu and the Muslim, is the Apostofy ‘S’.

    The Hindus say, everything is God, and we Muslims say everything is God’s - God with a Apostofy ‘S’. If we can solve this difference of Apostofy ‘S’, the Hindus and the Muslims will be united. How do you do it? As the Qur’an says… (Arabic)….. ‘That come to common terms as between us and you’. Which is the first term? (Arabic)…‘that we worship none but Allah’, (Arabic)… ‘that we associate no partners with Him’. So let us analyze the concept of God in Hinduisum, by analyzing their Religious Scriptures. The most popular amongst all the Hindu Religious Scriptures, is the ‘Bhagwat Geeta’. This is a copy of Bhagwat Geeta - In the IRF we have Alhamdulillah, more than 30 different translations only of Bhagwat Geeta. The Bhagwat Geeta says in Ch. No. 7, V. No.20 ‘That those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship the demi gods’ - That means the materialistic people, they worship demi gods - That means not the true Almighty God.

    The Upanishads are the other Sacred Scriptures of the Hindus. It is mentioned in the Chandogya Upanishad, Ch.No. 6, Section No. 2, Verse No.1. ‘God is one only… ‘Akam Avidetuim’… not a second’ That means - There is only God, He doesn’t have any partner, He is alone. Same as the Holy Qur’an which is mentioned in Surah Ikhlas, Ch. No. 112, V. No.1, (Arabic)… ‘Say He is Allah, one and only’. It is mentioned in the Sweta Sutara Upanishad, Ch. No. 6, Verse No.9, ‘Na Kasia Kasji Janita Nakadipa’, which means….‘Of Him there is no parents, nor Lord’ He has got no parents, He has got no masters - That means, He alone is sufficient, He is not dependent on anyone else.

    As the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Ikhlas, Ch. No.112, V. No.3, (Arabic)…‘He begets not nor is He begotten’ The quotation I gave from ‘Upanishads’, was translated by S. Radha Krishnan, and we have other translations also in our foundation. Further, if you read in the Sweta Sutara Upanishads, Ch. No. 4, V. No. 19, it says …‘Natastiya Pratima Asti’ ‘There is no likeness of Him’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy View Post
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    Is allah perfect or not ? His knowledge is prone to corruption .He has to send books over and over . THis is hilarious tbh .
    In fact you stole monotheism from Vedas .

    . "And when we said unto the angels, worship Adam, they all worshipped him except Eblis (Satan), who refused, and was puffed up with pride and became of the number of the unbelievers." surah baqrah 2: 32.) This clearly indicates that the Mohammedan God was not Omniscient i.e., He was not cognizant of the three periods of time - the past, the present, and future. Had he been Omniscient, He would not have created Satan. Nor was God All-powerful, since when Satan deliberately refuse to obey Him he could do nothing against him. Now if only one infidel (Satan), could trouble God so much as to render Him helpless what will He and His votaries do when they will have to cope with millions (according to their own belief) of infidels? God increased infirmity in some and let others astray. He must have learnt such things from Satan . In fact your God led Satan astray by asking him to do sajda . Your god even got enemies LOL .





    Since God formed Adam of the dust of the ground, he was not made in the image of allah, otherwise, allah also must have been made of the dust. When allah breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, was that breath allah Himself or something else? If it was something different, man was not made in the image of allah, but if it was so Adam and allah are alike and being alike allah also like man becomes subject to birth and death, growth and decay, hunger and thirst. how can then such a being be called allah? For this reason this statement recorded in the Old Testament nor yours books does not appear to be right, nor can therefore, this book be the Word of allah.



    The rivers of wine flow in your quran not ours lol . And none is born moslem you become one after saying shahada . And funny thing is that a person of insane mind can never become a moslem lel . Nudity ? If you see it then deal with it uwu .





    Because there is no one size fits for all approach in Dharma .Symbols and images have a deep imapct on us . You do realize it . They could be material objects but still they ignite a response that we treasure . You shake hands dont you ? thats not necessary for your survivial but it helps you connect to others . Santan Dharma unlike yours is not only philosophical but also experintial . We dont limit divine mere to a text LOL . You do realize the goal of ours is not to SURVIVE GOD to get to heaven and to attain virgins . LOL you are against nudity ? Your jannah is full of virgin women.



    Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in other Scriptures.

    In my last reply I have already debunked it . Prophet is yes prophesised in Bhavishya purana but as a corrupter .
    Sanjay dwivedi okay fine no problem he is ex vedic just like ex moslems uwu . He is lgnorant man . He must first answer my posts . And you better heed this well . Devtas aka Gods / Jinns and demons are not Ishwara but highly elevated life forms . Devtas literally means one who gives knowledge . There aint any shirk in worshipping them . If you are so troubled by this fact then you first introspect in yours own that why you have to associate prophet muhammed in Shahada . We dont need that but you do xD

    Abrham ? Give me the verse from Vedas uwu . By the way in the same way you stole twisted Amon of Egypt and Aum of Sanskrit to Ameen you have twisted and copied a lot many things . That doesnt means yours prophet was mentioned in our Vedas . You read my post the link which has been already provided .

    You are replying for the sake of some replying and you do not use your Brain or make any sense in most of this post , which I consider nothing more than a garbage so I seriously find no reason to reply you. How Prophet Muhammad living in Arabia and could not read or write stole from the Sanskrit Vedhas !! ?? Either you do not Use your brain or You are a Liar ( with both of these, there is no use of discusing) . Similar you are claiming Islam associates The Messenger with Allah. I think you do not even know basic meaning of association or shirk, Are you a Captain of bullock Farm ?? otr what captain are you? But you are just a Troll is clear from your claims. I thought you were well educated OR else I would not engage with time wasters and those who do not use reason.

    Might be That's why you worship Private parts , cow,elephant etc but We do not do that. We worship their Creator Instead. You do not even know Vedhas because pure Vedic religion is Monotheistic is known from the people of Knowledge like Dr Vedha Prakash Upaddhay the greatest Hindu Pandit & research Scholar from the Prayag University.

    So follow what ever fits your brain and wait for the day of Judgement to see who is in the deep piles of ---- with demons , ghosts and five heads , elephant head etc .
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    Quote Originally Posted by talibilm View Post
    I consider nothing more than a garbage
    Desperate failed attempts to squeeze out Prophet from Vedas indeed is garbage . Dont do that .

    Quote Originally Posted by talibilm View Post
    How Prophet Muhammad living in Arabia and could not read or write stole from the Sanskrit Vedhas !! ?? Either you do not Use your brain or You are a Liar ( with both of these, there is no use of discussing)
    LoL Vedas predate Abrahamic books . Are you nuts or what ? What has a country got to do with monotheism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by talibilm View Post
    Similar are telling Islam associates The Messenger with Allah. I think you do not even know basic meaning of association or shirk, Are you a Captain of bullock Farm ?? otr what captain are you?
    Association of prophet in Shahada . Dont get worked up .

    Quote Originally Posted by talibilm View Post
    Might be That's why you worship Private parts , cow,elephant etc but We do not do that.
    Are you hurt with the truth ? I will just copy from my previous post .
    And now let the powerful one accept the sacred-bowl filled with milk, white, filled with Shukra’ (Rig Veda.IV.27.5)
    Here is the transformation of the lower-energy we talked about of the Shukra or semen in the lower-chakras, representing the genital organs and lust, and it’s being transformed into the higher Soma or immortality through the awakening of Kundalini from the base of the spine up to the Crown of the where, where it is transformed into this immortal elixir (Amrita or Ambrosia).

    The sacred bowl here is hence filled with Shukra, the Divine Seminal Fluid, which is transformed to Soma in the Crown Chakra, when it is taken up the Sushumna, the middle-current in Yoga representing the subtle channel in the spine, through which one accesses higher powers, and through which the Kundalini Shakti ascends as Udanavayu, the up-moving air or breath, which has a purifying nature as a pierces the chakras and transforms this lower / base seminal fluid into the nectar of immortality in the Crown of the head.

    Quote Originally Posted by talibilm View Post
    Vedhas because pure Vedic religion is Monotheistic
    Yes thats right . Vedic monotheism is real monotheism and not a twisted concept of any kind .

    Quote Originally Posted by talibilm View Post
    day of Judgement
    Does not Allah always administer justice. If He administers justice only on one particular day, He does wrong. It is right to worship Him and beg assistance of Him, but is this equally right to invoke His assistance in doing even evil deeds? Is the right path that of the Mohammedans alone and not of others? Why do not the Mohammedans tread the path which is really the right one? I hope you do not regard the path that leads to evil as the right one. If good is the same in all religions, the Mohammedan religion can have no superiority over others. If the Mohammedans do not believe that other religions are just as good as their own, they are prejudiced like yourself.

    I noticed how quick you were to complain about nudity at Kumbh but when I talked about virgin women in jannah . You get trolled automatically LEL . And I am Captain of kuffar .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy View Post


    Why do not the Mohammedans tread the path which is really the right one?



    The right way to call us is ''Muslims'' as in our Quran (Not Moslems) nor Mohemmaden as you had called . Islam is different from other Religions even in its name. Like christianity is derived from Christ and Judaism from juda , Hinduism and hindus etc. But Islam is different as its a Universal Religion for all and it does not derive its name of its land , or from its last Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and the the follower is a Muslim unlike Christians who worship Christ.

    Mohemmaden may refer to him who worships Muhammed (PBUH) but Muslims do not worship Muhammad (PBUH)

    1) Islam
    2) Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
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    Just Teaching you few basic things when you brag that you know all about Islam and the glorious Quran. But the fact is you know nothing or pretend to know nothing when you say we compare Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to Allah in our shahadha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy View Post

    I hope you do not regard the path that leads to evil as the right one. If good is the same in all religions, the Mohammedan religion can have no superiority over others. If the Mohammedans do not believe that other religions are just as good as their own, they are prejudiced like yourself.
    Its Islam again (is not mohameddan Religion) is unbiased to a born Muslim or a revert. Allah has made this world a test to every Human http://legacy.quran.com/67/2 (Muslim, Non Muslim) Every born Muslim does not have a guaranteed Jannah unless he pass this test and dies with true eemaan , similarly for a non Muslim the test for him, is to search for his Creator giving up his ego to the truth. Allah do not force anyone beyond his scope & capacity and Allah's knows every one's capacity AND HE IS TESTING ACCORDINGLY & ALLAH IS NOT UNJUST.


    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy View Post

    I noticed how quick you were to complain about nudity at Kumbh but when I talked about virgin women in jannah . You get trolled automatically LEL . And I am Captain of kuffar .
    No one does that unless someone tries to twist the matter or context of those quran verses saying virgin which is mentioned to elucidate they are pure n chaste. Even Mary (pbuh) is mentioned as virgin. Just an another of your usual exaggerations as always and if these your words of addressing us 'Moslems' or Mohemaddans does not arrive i would rather not think to reply to twisters, liars and Ignorants adamant to keep their ignorance and trolls.
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    Nothing will happen . The life you and we live is just one of several chapters our lives goes through . .

    Slavish worship implies limiting the concept of God to a particular text . I do agree present days hindus are doing the same . They have been disconnected majority of them from real prayer to Ishwara which is kundalini yoga , meditation etc
    Interesting, since nothing will happen, what's the point or why believer of Hindu do a good deed, for what reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by air View Post
    Interesting, since nothing will happen, what's the point or why believer of Hindu do a good deed, for what reason?
    I must correct myself , This life we live is just one of several stories our Soul Goes through .

    Doing good deeds helps writing off bad karma .

    This is how it is -
    1.)Your thoughts become reality.
    2. Inversely, your present reality is nothing but a cumulative manifestation of whatever thoughts you decided to think of till date. These include both the conscious and unconscious thoughts.
    3. The purpose of this reality is to help you rise above sorrow and achieve bliss. And you can change your reality to higher bliss by changing your thoughts.Thus, life is not an unplanned random chemical reaction. Instead, life and world around is a well-planned system built to guide you towards bliss. And the way to use this system effectively is through directing the thoughts towards achievement of bliss.

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    Everything for Wood, the Liar & psycho is a joke . He will film himself as if he is inside the kaaba. He will twist each and everything with lies and twisted assumptions JUST to make collections (donations) from the ignorant Christians.
    You do know what satire is? He purposely made it appear like that because Christians are not even allowed into the city of Mecca. That is religious bigotry.

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    Everything for Wood, the Liar & psycho is a joke
    Torah tells us not to eat rabbit along with pork . But you selectively brand pork to be haram . But your prophet ate rabbit uwu .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy View Post
    Torah tells us not to eat rabbit along with pork . But you selectively brand pork to be haram . But your prophet ate rabbit uwu .
    That's because Torah was only meant for the Bani Isra'eel to follow. Qur'an is for the whole of mankind, till the last day of earth.

    Btw, pork is not the only thing that is Haram. It is not selectively branded as such. Learn about Islam before jumping to such conclusions.

    All carnivores are haram, and all those that consume filth. How can anyone in their right minds pet and consume pork knowing how filthy it actually is? Disgusting

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