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    As-Salaam alaikum,
    By way of reflection (fikr) that will eventually be of immense benefit, did you know that:--

    (1) The mystics love and longing for Allah, Azzah Wa Jallah, emanates from the pre-existent
    Light of Prophet Muhammad, alaihi-s-salatu wassalam, which is the essence of all Prophecy
    and Saintship. That light irradiates every seeker's heart and is the focus of his thoughts,
    feeling and actions, as when when the sun moves from east-west, its beams moving
    with it, illumine all the windows of a house before returning to their source.

    (2) The Apostle of Allah, Sallallahu alaihi Wasallam, said: "He who knows himself, knows
    his Lord"...
    ie if he knows himself as perishable, he knows his Allah as Everlasting, or if
    he knows himself as humble, he knows Allah as Almighty, or if he knows himself as a
    servant, he knows Allah as the Lord. Therefore one who does not know himself is debarred
    from knowledge of all things.

    (3) Allahu, Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala, our Lord. mercifully covers up our sins and leaves us in
    ignorance of our final destiny... so that we may have hope and faith in the unseen.

    (4) From whatever way you look at it, Tawba or repentance, means not to listen to one's 4
    enemies:- the nafs (ego), hawa (vain desires), dunya and shaitan. Man may agree with
    his Lord (Allah, Almighty) or with his 4 enemies. If we ask to return to our Lord, we must
    be in rebellion against those 4 enemies, and NOT listen to their orders.

    We we all be guided aright by our Lord, Allahu, Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
    Best wishes.
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    Re: Did You Know...?

    beautiful thread....

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    Re: Did You Know...?

    In terms of the "hadith" you've stated, I'd advise you not to share this statement if it is controversial:
    FABRICATED HADITH – 1
    “He who knows himself knows his Lord”
    Mentioned in Al Maqaasid by As Sakhawi.
    Classified fabricated by As-Suyuti and Imam Nawawi. The scholars of Hadith said this khabar is not a hadith but instead it’s an Israelia i.e. the Jewish sayings.
    This hadith is extremely dangerous as it’s in conflict with the Islamic Aqeedah. It gives the false notion that man can be compared to Allah. The ninety-nine names and attributes of Allah should not be understood in human form. This is called Tashbih i.e. to liken the creator to His creation. Anyone who makes Allah and similar to His creation in His person or His names and attributes is a Kafir.
    Hence Allah sees, speaks and hears but not like us. We see as the creation and Allah sees as the Creator. Our ability to see is limited while Allah’s ability to see is unlimited. We believe in Allah’s names and attributes without making Him similar to His creation because Allah said:
    “There is nothing in the heavens above nor the earth below which is like unto Him, and He is All-Hearer the All-Seer.” (Surah Ash-Shura, 42 : 11)
    Likewise Allah said in this regard:
    “Say He is Allah, the One Allah As Samad Le. the SelfSufficient Master, whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks. He begets not nor was He begotten, and there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.” (Surah Ikhlas)
    https://albasairislamicmedia.wordpre...cated-hadeeth/
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    He is Allah, other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him [59:23]




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    As-Salaam alaikum,
    I have noted Aaqib's comments on the above topic I was opportuned to post, to which I kindly wish to further observe that I literally belong to those students/seekers of knowledge who believe any Hadith related from the Noble Prophet Muhammad, Sallallahu alaihi Wasallam, out of respect to him... alaihi-s-Salaat Wassalam. Where such Hadith is said to be fabricated or weak, one does not stand to be responsible for accepting it..especially where such ahadith convey indisputable spiritual teaching.

    One of the traits of being an heir of the Noble Pprophet, Sallallahu alaihi Wasallam, some 'Ulama believe, is to apply Hadith in as a broad way as possible, whether they be authentic, weak or fabricated(?), by regularly practicing the former, and, even if only once, the latter, taking into account all the nuances brought out by the different versions, without attaching himself/herself solely to the exterior criteria of the validity of the Hadith, except obviously when it is a matter of licit or illicit. And the imitation of the Prophet, Sallallahu alaihi Wasallam, in conformity to the Sunnah leads in effect, according to the Holy Qur'an, to Divine Love: 'Say: If truly you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you.' (3:31)

    In view of this, I will still seek the indulgence of Members of the Forum, especially those who read the above topic, to find the time to go over the attachment below by Sheikh Ibn Arabi, may Allah be Merciful to him, being his incisive, masterful comments on that age-old saying of 'Whoso knows himself, knows his Lord'. There is practically nothing dangerous about and/or in it.

    Best Regards.

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    Muslims must practice on Mawdhoo`aat (fabrications)? I'm learning new things every day, here. What's this new religion called? Because it's definitely not the Islaam I learnt. Everyone's making up their own version these days, according to what suits their Nafs.

    People have become, what you say in Urdu, "Nafs Parast".

    ...فإلى الله المشتكى وهو المستعان
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    Re: Did You Know...?

    For the sincere brothers and sisters who still wish to adhere to the original Islaam, the "Old Religion" as they say, this is the actual ruling concerning it:

    Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said:

    من كذب علي متعمدا فليتبوأ مقعده من النار
    رواه البخاري ومسلم

    "Whoever lies against me intentionally (i.e. fabricates a Hadeeth), let him prepare for his abode in the Fire (of Jahanam)." [Narrated in Saheeh al-Bukhaari and Saheeh Muslim.]

    Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said:

    من حدث عني بحديث يُرى أنه كذب فهو أحد الكاذبِينَ
    رواه مسلم

    "Whosoever narrates a Hadeeth from me which is known to be a lie, then he is one of the liars." [Narrated in Saheeh Muslim.]

    So, Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم describes people who narrate Mawdhoo`aat (fabricated narrations) as being "Kaadhibeen" (liars), and lying is a sin which leads to Jahannam.

    In fact, some of the `Ulamaa, such as Imaam al-Juwayni, Imaam ibn al-Muneer, Shaykh-ul-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah and others, have said that whoever fabricates a Hadeeth becomes a Kaafir by doing so.

    Taking this view into consideration, to knowingly spread Mawdhoo`aat (fabricated narrations), then, is to aid in Kufr. Also, the person who knowingly narrates Mawdhoo`aat is intentionally lying against Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم.

    Shaykh-ul-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah رحمة الله عليه writes in "as-Saarim al-Maslool `alaa Shaatim ar-Rasool صلى الله عليه وسلم" (The Unsheathed Sword Against the One Who Insults the Rasool صلى الله عليه وسلم):

    كان حي من بني ليث من المدينة على ميلين وكان رجل قد خطب منهم في الجاهلية فلم يزوجوه فأتاهم وعليه حلة فقال إن رسول الله كساني هذه الحلة وأمرني أن أحكم في أموالكم ودمائكم ، ثم انطلق فنزل على تلك المرأة التي كان يحبها ، فأرسل القوم إلى رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فقال "كذب عدو الله " ثم أرسل رجلا فقال: " إن وجدته حيا وما أراك تجده حيا فاضرب عنقه وإن وجدته ميتا فأحرقه بالنار" قال: فذلك قول رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم "من كذب علي متعمدا" قال شيخ الإسلام : (هذا إسناد صحيح على شرط الصحيح لا نعلم له علة )

    "There was a clan from the Banu Layth of Madeenah that was upon two paths, and there was a man who had proposed (to a girl) among them during the time of Jaahiliyyah (The Days of Ignorance), but they refused to marry her to him. So, he came to them wearing a Hullah (a particular suit), and he said: "The Rasool of Allaah has given me this Hullah (suit) to wear and has commanded me to judge between your wealth and your blood." Thereafter, he went to that woman whom he loved (that he wanted to marry). The people then sent word to Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم (informing him of what had transpired), so he said: "The enemy of Allaah has lied." Thereafter, Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم sent out a man and told him, "If you find him alive - and I do not think that you will find him alive - then strike his neck, and if you find him dead, then burn him out with fire."

    After narrating this, Imaam ibn Taymiyyah says: "This is the meaning of the statement of Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم: "Whoever lies against me intentionally." Imaam ibn Taymiyyah said: "The Isnaad (chain of narrators) is Saheeh (vigorously authenticated) according to the Shart (conditions stipulated by) as-Saheeh, and we do not know of any `Illah (defect) in it."

    Based on this, a group from the `Ulamaa have ruled that the one who intentionally fabricates against Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم becomes a Murtadd and he must be killed. `Ulamaa who held this view are the likes of Imaam Abu Muhammad al-Juwayni and others.
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    There is a very big difference between Ahaadeeth that have been graded as "Dha`eef" (weak) and narrations which have been graded as "Mawdhoo`" (fabricated).

    Maybe the brother is getting them confused. The `Ulamaa such as Imaam an-Nawawi رحمة الله عليه and others have said that we will act on Dha`eef Ahaadeeth (Ahaadeeth with a weak Isnaad) when it comes to matters of Fadhaa'il al-A`maal (virtues of actions), never when it comes to issues of `Aqeedah, or Fiqh, etc.

    However, a Mawdhoo` narration is something else entirely. Mawdhoo` (fabricated) means it was NOT said by Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم. Rather, some Shaytaan made it up and then, to deviate the Muslims, he attributed it to Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم. This, as we explained, as been declared Kufr by some `Ulamaa, and they even went as far as to say that such a person should be killed.

    So once again, the two must not be mixed up: Dha`eef (weak), and Mawdhoo` (fabricated).

    Dha`eef = Can be used in matters of Fadhaa'il.

    Mawdhoo` = Can NEVER be used, no matter what it's about.
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    Can any of us imagine to fabricate a hadith....?
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    @huzaifa h ibn Adam : "There was a clan from the Banu Layth of Madeenah that was upon two paths, and there was a man who had proposed (to a girl) among them during the time ofJaahiliyyah(The Days of Ignorance), but they refused to marry her to him. So, he came to them wearing aHullah(a particular suit), and he said: "The Rasool of Allaah has given me thisHullah(suit) to wear and has commanded me to judge between your wealth and your blood." Thereafter, he went to that woman whom he loved (that he wanted to marry). The people then sent word to Rasoolullaah(informing him of what had transpired), so he said: "The enemy of Allaah has lied." Thereafter, Rasoolullaahsent out a man and told him, "If you find him alive - and I do not think that you will find him alive - then strike his neck, and if you find him dead, then burn him out with fire."...... in which book of ahadith, this hadith is mentioned...?
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    Re: Did You Know...?

    this is fabrication...still searching ...cannot find one hadith near to it

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    Re: Did You Know...?

    Thanks brother Huzaifah...butvyour hadiths was not in Google
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamnadanu View Post
    this is fabrication...still searching ...cannot find one hadith near to it
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    your hadiths was not in Google
    Be careful about what you say.

    You know, the arrogance of people these days is mind-boggling.

    Tell me:

    Will you go and open a surgery and start operating on people, if you didn't study medicine and you're not a qualified surgeon? No, because if you tried that, you'd get arrested. Would you apply for a job as a pharmacist at a hospital or clinic, and start dispensing drugs, despite not having studied it? No, because once again, you'd get arrested. A person wouldn't even go into an IT company and argue with the people about IT if he hadn't studied it. He'd be too embarrassed to do that. He'd know that he'd be the biggest moron in the world to argue on something he knows nothing about, so he wouldn't do it. Isn't it? So why does everyone feel that they have the right to speak on Deen?

    Do you know how long it takes people to become `Ulamaa? Let me tell you:

    First, they do Hifz, and that (in SA at least) averages 5 to 7 years. Then they do the `Aalim Faadhil course, and that averages 6 years. Then they study Takhassus fil-Fiqh wal-Iftaa (Specialisation in Islaamic Jurisprudence and Religious Verdicts), and that averages one to two years. So let's say: 7 years for Hifz, 6 years for an `Aalim course, an additional 2 years to become a Mufti = 15 years. 15 years of studying day and night. "Burning the midnight oil." Staying awake throughout the nights, studying. Along with that, during their student days, they have to read through hundreds of Kitaabs. Those Kitaabs are Massive and stretch from wall to wall. Just take One Single Kitaab, like Siyar A`laam an-Nubalaa, of Imaam adh-Dhahabi. It's just ONE Kitaab on the issue of Jarh wat-Ta`deel (The Science of Narrator Criticism), and how long is it? 17,000 pages. 17,000! That's just ONE Kitaab, on ONE issue of Deen. The Kutub of Fiqh are thousands of pages each.

    The Hanafi Madh-hab alone has Hundreds of books of Fiqh, and each of those books are thousands of pages long. During the `Aalim course, the `Ulamaa study a number of books of Fiqh, beginning with Mukhtasar al-Qudoori, and then moving on to Hidaayah, Badaa'i`-us-Sanaa'i` fee Tarteeb-ish-Sharaa'i`, al-Bahr-ur-Raa'iq, Sharh-ul-Wiqaayah, Radd-ul-Muhtaar `alad Durril Mukhtaar, al-Mabsoot, and others. Just ONE of those books, just Badaa'i`-us-Sanaa'i` alone, one single book in Hanafi Fiqh, is 5,995 pages long. That's just one book of Hanafi Fiqh, from the Hundreds of books of Hanafi Fiqh. That's not even yet coming to Maaliki Fiqh, or Shaafi`i Fiqh, or Hanbali Fiqh.

    There are Thousands of books of Hadeeth. There are over a billion books on Islaam, just in Arabic. From those books, less than 5% is available online, and from what is available online, only about 0.1% has been translated into English, and that 0.1% is all that Google has to offer.

    You are rejecting a Hadeeth as a fabrication because you did not find it on Google?

    Laa Ilaaha Illallaah...

    What is wrong with people these days...

    The Hadeeth Imaam ibn Taymiyyah mentioned is reported in a Number of places in the authentic Arabic Kutub. Here are some:

    1) It is narrated in Sharh Muskhil al-Aathaar of Imaam at-Tahaawi, (d. 321 A.H.), considered one of the greatest `Ulamaa ever, and he was from the Salaf era.

    2) It is narrated in "al-Kaamil" of Imaam ibn `Adi.

    3) It is narrated in at-Talkhees al-Habeer of `Allaamah ibn Hajr al-`Asqalaani. After narrating this Hadeeth, Imaam ibn Hajr says: "It has been narrated by Hajjaaj ibn ash-Shaa`ir, from Zakariyya ibn `Adi, from `Ali ibn Mus-hir; and Suwayd ibn Sa`eed narrated from `Ali ibn Mus-hir a portion from it, and it has a witness from the Hadeeth of Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah...

    And it has been narrated by Ahmad and by at-Tabaraani. At-Tabaraani narrates it from the path (i.e. Isnaad) of `Ataa ibn as-Saa'ib, from `Abdullaah ibn al-Haarith, and it is also narrated as being from `Ataa, from `Abdullaah ibn az-Zubayr...

    The Hadeeth is Hasan."

    4) It is narrated in Siyar A`laam an-Nubalaa (remember that Massive, 17,000-page Kitaab on Jarh wat-Ta`deel I mentioned earlier? That one.)

    Imaam ibn Taymiyyah quotes it and mentions the Aqwaal of the various Muhadditheen regarding it, to show that they had accepted it and used it for Istidlaal (derivation of evidences from it).

    Never reject Ahaadeeth simply because you do not like it. And also, Google is not a source of `Ilm. Not authentic `Ilm, anyway.

    Was-Salaam.
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    my ignorance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamnadanu View Post
    my ignorance
    May Allaah Ta`aalaa forgive you and increase you in `Ilm, Aameen.
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    I don't want to derail the thread, but it's true that very few books concerning Islam, whether it be hadith or aqeedah of fiqh, are actually translated into English. The vast majority of them are in Arabic. And I also found when you wish to learn the specifics of Islam Google or the internet is of no use at all - I thought it would be more cost-effective if I researched what I wanted to know online lol, and I ended up with almost nothing.

    So the end result is I've got quite a nice collection of books, and I am happily confident the knowledge within them is authentic and valid. And these are just English translations, so many interesting writings I'd love to read are only in Arabic.

    And gosh 17,000 pages???? And there I was feeling proud as anything for finishing an 800 page book
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    Quote Originally Posted by noraina View Post
    I don't want to derail the thread, but it's true that very few books concerning Islam, whether it be hadith or aqeedah of fiqh, are actually translated into English. The vast majority of them are in Arabic. And I also found when you wish to learn the specifics of Islam Google or the internet is of no use at all - I thought it would be more cost-effective if I researched what I wanted to know online lol, and I ended up with almost nothing.

    So the end result is I've got quite a nice collection of books, and I am happily confident the knowledge within them is authentic and valid. And these are just English translations, so many interesting writings I'd love to read are only in Arabic.

    And gosh 17,000 pages???? And there I was feeling proud as anything for finishing an 800 page book
    The `Ulamaa of Islaam were extremely prolific.

    Imaam Abu-l Faraj ibn al-Jawzi رحمة الله عليه alone authored over 1,000 Kitaabs. Imaam ibn Taymiyyah mentioned that 1,000 Kitaabs of Imaam ibn al-Jawzi are in existence and the `Ulamaa were in possession of them, but that he had actually authored even more than 1,000.

    So even if a person were to say, let's only believe the books that we actually have of his, then that leaves you with 1,000 books, which is the least possible amount of works that he had authored.

    Now, these are all non-fiction. These are all Kitaabs on Deen. These are all factual Kitaabs, giving `Ilm. I'm mentioning that because a person might counter by saying, "Well, Barbara Cartland wrote 722 books, and Ryoki Inoue wrote 1,000 books, and Corin Tellado wrote 4,000 novellas," but those are works of fiction. Also, novellas are very short, whereas each of the 1,000 Kitaabs of Imaam ibn al-Jawzi is lengthy. The Kuffaar world regards Ryoki Inoue as having been the most prolific author in history, because he had written those 1,000 works of fiction in a period of six years, under 39 different pseudonyms. Others regard Charles Hamilton as the most prolific author, because he had written 100 million words, which is equivalent to 1,200 books, and because his word count is higher than Inoue's, he is regarded as being the more prolific author.

    But again, works of fiction cannot be compared with non-fiction. To write 1,000 works of factual non-fiction is significantly more difficult than to write 1,000 storybooks, because you can write whatever you want in your storybooks, whether it is true or not, logical or not.
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    So muslim scholars authored more books than any writers in this world.thankyou for the information

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    So muslim scholars authored more books than any writers in this world.thankyou for the information
    More beneficial books, definitely.

    Also, quality is more important than quantity.
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