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    Recently I've heard many scholars talking about jamat tableigh and labelling them as bid'ah is there any basis to this, should I follow their advices.
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    Re: Jamat Tableigh

    No group of this ummah is perfect, including tabligi jamat but I appreciate their efforts. I don't trust the scholars if they criticize any group of ummah. We need unity, not division
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    Re: Jamat Tableigh

    'If we look at sky through green glass it appears greenish...if we look red glass it appears reddish'


    For the Aalim...they may not understand it is their most important duty to spread dheen...If Jamaat thableigh works for spreading dheen...no problem....today Aalims have no voice about adulteries and nude posters in muslim ummah....Turkey was a muslim country look how bad it is going ....Spain was a muslim country...when people stopped doing Dawah ...Allah took muslims away from spain....Qiyamah will be when there will no single True muslim left in this world...If we are muslims we should do dawah...there should no division within muslims...Alims have mixed opinion...in these days each group have Alims...who speak for them...and there are Alims who support da'wah
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    ^We need to differentiate between ulama e haq and ulama e soo.
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    Re: Jamat Tableigh

    Personally I would stay away from them. Here's some info on them:

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    https://islamqa.info/en/8674

    http://www.islamicacademy.org/html/A...Jma'at.htm

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    Re: Jamat Tableigh

    format_quote Originally Posted by aaj View Post
    Personally I would stay away from them. Here's some info on them: pros/cons https://islamqa.info/en/8674 http://www.islamicacademy.org/html/A...Jma'at.htm
    and I think this is one of the best group of this ummah in this age.
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    if you are doing or confident that level of eeman inside you is enough...you can stay away....Allah Swt will question ...why you refused to...i know nobody is perfect.Look at them ....they are Daees...not some people who make duniya with dheen......We should encourage the good and forbid the evil....what often people do id completely forbidding the good and encouraging evil...in my locality ...mosques are empty or 1 saff with old people...jn Tabligh jamaat remind us of life for dheen...i got myself too improved my eeman...rectified my mistakes... if you want to understand them...treat them with good manners...if they invite you...atleast spent 3 days....for correcting eeman...for Allah...you should go out and talk with them and understand. before misunderstanding.... look christians and several millions hate islam..because due to misconceptions... if we are too creating misconceptions...we ourselves are creating divisions...look muslims are one...and only one division....remember quran ayat.....those who invite towards Allah are the best among people.
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    Re: Jamat Tableigh

    Most importantly do not become fans of Alims ...because noone can help you in judgement day....see knowledge....and continue to learn....do not do shirk....some people or division cannot make you up in judgement day...Allah look at hearts of people ...if you try to talk with all people ..if you suffered enough in life for Allah....what do you need more....we need to do everything for Allah
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    format_quote Originally Posted by aaj View Post

    Abu Musab Wajdi Akari is a troll.

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    i attend religious talk from Alims...i dont understand where they got courage to moke rather than rectifying the wrong...they try to moke those who where dheeny...they always say tabligh is against Muhammed pbuh...astagfirullah...is there any logic to what they say....people with eeman never is against Muhammed....on judgement day...Allah will question those who spread lies and hatred ....Allah created different test for us to understand the right and forbid the wrong...we need to understand because it is our destiny....eternal heaven or eternal hell....never call or moke or harass or speak bad against anyone even if they do bad....if Allah gave them hidayah and make them much better than us...nobody is perfect....May Allah help us understand the correct path
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    Re: Jamat Tableigh

    format_quote Originally Posted by Shamnadanu View Post
    i dont understand where they got courage to moke rather than rectifying the wrong
    Which `Ulamaa are you referring to?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Shamnadanu View Post
    i attend religious talk from Alims...i dont understand where they got courage to moke rather than rectifying the wrong...they try to moke those who where dheeny...they always say tabligh is against Muhammed pbuh...astagfirullah...is there any logic to what they say....people with eeman never is against Muhammed....on judgement day...Allah will question those who spread lies and hatred ....Allah created different test for us to understand the right and forbid the wrong...we need to understand because it is our destiny....eternal heaven or eternal hell....never call or moke or harass or speak bad against anyone even if they do bad....if Allah gave them hidayah and make them much better than us...nobody is perfect....May Allah help us understand the correct path
    I think you are an active member of TJ
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    Re: Jamat Tableigh

    I like Muslims Generally. ...I like the people who were sincere in Dheen...i see lot of people ...i am unable to trust them...i see myself weak in Eeman...my enemy is my own Nafs (body)...So i am active in Dawah ...i am 20 year old and learning
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    Which `Ulamaa are you referring to?
    Usually in my locality...there is group called A.P sunni and E.K sunnis.... ulamas among them...i see they moke the way TJ member went out for dawah...they say the way they dress..TJ when going out have plates dishes etc...so they spent their wealth time effort sacrificing for Allah..inviting others...those people get so many experience s during journey.. tough situation s actually rise our eeman up...the journey is actually based on rules in islam ..with quran and hadith.....Do a muslim need to involve in anything which Allah forbid....?think logic. ..effort is spending on dawah and improving our own eeman and gaining knowledge...if hearts wish is true...Allah is only looking on hearts and deeds...but people look for materialistically...egoitic. we need to change our vision...our life is too life...what is our balance in time left?...i am 20 ....live like you die Tomorrow ..learn like you live forever....May Allah forgives us sinners......
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Shamnadanu View Post
    Usually in my locality...there is group called A.P sunni and E.K sunnis.... ulamas among them...i see they moke the way TJ member went out for dawah...they say the way they dress..TJ when going out have plates dishes etc...so they spent their wealth time effort sacrificing for Allah..inviting others...those people get so many experience s during journey.. tough situation s actually rise our eeman up...the journey is actually based on rules in islam ..with quran and hadith.....Do a muslim need to involve in anything which Allah forbid....?think logic. ..effort is spending on dawah and improving our own eeman and gaining knowledge...if hearts wish is true...Allah is only looking on hearts and deeds...but people look for materialistically...egoitic. we need to change our vision...our life is too life...what is our balance in time left?...i am 20 ....live like you die Tomorrow ..learn like you live forever....May Allah forgives us sinners......
    You're living in Kerala?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    Abu Musab Wajdi Akari is a troll.

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    Got any proof against the brother?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    and I think this is one of the best group of this ummah in this age.

    sure, if you love bidah, weak ahadith and shirk.

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    No group of this ummah is perfect, including tabligi jamat but I appreciate their efforts. I don't trust the scholars if they criticize any group of ummah. We need unity, not division

    It's their job to warn against deviant groups. Otherwise we have deviant scholars of shia, sunni, suffi and what have you all sharing the same platform giving dawah to masses. Most of the "religious" youths are messed up thanks to these deviant scholars, like hamza yusuf and his institute.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by aaj View Post
    Got any proof against the brother?




    sure, if you love bidah, weak ahadith and shirk.




    It's their job to warn against deviant groups. Otherwise we have deviant scholars of shia, sunni, suffi and what have you all sharing the same platform giving dawah to masses. Most of the "religious" youths are messed up thanks to these deviant scholars, like hamza yusuf and his institute.
    Bida'ah ....can i tell you what that is
    in my locality there was a grave of awliya...2 graves +.some other peoples....these graves are now modified ... not greater than 10 years...inside a big mosque ....earning high income...when people say its for siyarat ....what is their intention....the income...little they Allah look at the hearts of believers...it is seen that people hsve no no respect to grave.. my explanation: ONE OF MY NON MUSLIM FRIEND ASKED ME ABOUT THIS AND SAID HE HAD HEARD THE GRAVE WILL IT EXPANDS....HE BEGAN EXPLANING WHAT HE HEARD OF GRAVE...AND AT LAST SAID HE VISIT IT OCCASSIONALLY WITH HIS FAMILY...UNDERSTAND THIS THIS AWLIYA CAME TO PROPAGATE DHEEN...WHAT IS THIS HAPPENING TODAY...DHEEN WASN'T THERE. ..LOT OF BLIND BELIEF AND MAJOR SHIRKS EXIST....IF I ASK ANY ONE WHO VISIT GRAVE....THEY WOULD SAY THEY PRAYED TO AWLIYA.. EVEN I WERE THOUGHT THE SAME WHEN IN LKG/UKG...Also so many weird things. .if any imam speak bad. ....he will be suspended sooner!inside...so many influence of politics . . .
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    sure, if you love bidah, weak ahadith and shirk.



    completely avoiding one group of daees are not at all nice...i must say this is not a small group of people..contraveries existed for years when there was n't any internet...sheikul hadith Maulana zakarriya sahib compiled those hadiths based on amals...which is to increase eeman...lots of Alims in this platform...dont have stage ...improving sunnah....when Alim fails people fails too...here the responsibility of every muslim is foebid the bad and enjoin the good.thats why it says highest group of people...i have never seen community like this with so mamy wisdom...even people of different positions and problems ...get their eeeman rectified...it is not bida'ah...these days people wont care if you do sjirk..if you fo bidaah or if you understand weak hadiths...if someone is seen 5 times on mosque...they began to discuss about his past etc....look this is something for eeman...eeman will come inside your own...ilm is made farlh after age 14
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    format_quote Originally Posted by aaj View Post
    Got any proof against the brother?

    There's plenty on youtube, he's a takfiri. He's made takfir on scholars like Shaikh Hamza Yusuf and Imran Hosein among others. And he had no proof. Funny thing is you are asking me for proof - and the proof is there, on youtube.

    I'm sure you've seen it. How can you ask me for it? lol

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Shamnadanu View Post
    sure, if you love bidah, weak ahadith and shirk.



    completely avoiding one group of daees are not at all nice...i must say this is not a small group of people..contraveries existed for years when there was n't any internet...sheikul hadith Maulana zakarriya sahib compiled those hadiths based on amals...which is to increase eeman...lots of Alims in this platform...dont have stage ...improving sunnah....when Alim fails people fails too...here the responsibility of every muslim is foebid the bad and enjoin the good.thats why it says highest group of people...i have never seen community like this with so mamy wisdom...even people of different positions and problems ...get their eeeman rectified...it is not bida'ah...these days people wont care if you do sjirk..if you fo bidaah or if you understand weak hadiths...if someone is seen 5 times on mosque...they began to discuss about his past etc....look this is something for eeman...eeman will come inside your own...ilm is made farlh after age 14
    There is a BIG difference between having difference of opinions and have incorrect aqeedah and information. Faziel-amal is a book of shirk and if people want to ignorantly follow it and defend it then it is their akhirah they are putting on the line.

    http://www.it-rx.com/salafi-scholars...gh/0011001.htm
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