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    wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh


    Please be as polite as possible.

    Since I got into deen (religion) I have been reading fatwa (rulings) from several sources.

    Problem #1: Now that I have chosen my direction in deen I am confused that Selefi scholars contradict the fatwas by my beloved mostly Saudi scholars. I mainly use these sites as my education of Islam.

    http://www.fatwaislam.com/fis/
    http://www.athaar.org/
    http://www.fatwa-online.com/

    I have been on Multaqa forum and many rulings that were given to me contradict the fatwas I read from the above sites!
    I understand that they make their own itjihad, but that isn't true because true Selefi scholars give rulings or go back to the rulings of their Selefi scholars such as Bin Baz, Muhammad Wahabb etc...

    The problem I have is that my sites such as salafi publications are accused of being extreme on things. How is that possible when the fatwas are originaly by good, super good scholars ?!


    Option # 2: I can follow a madhab and that way my scholars wouldn't contradict. But I have read fatwas by my beloved Muhammad Abdul Wahabb (love his wording in fatwas) and I don't have the ability to choose a stronger view. Hence I believe that there are stronger views due to the fact that today's scholars do have more information (hadeeths) than the scholars of the past (may Allah, azzawajall, be pleased with them all).

    The thing is that I have read fatwas by madhabis who stick to their madhab and they contradict their madhab. I find their fatwas excessive. For example, the fatwa of those who stick to their madhab totally contradicted a sound hadeeth NOT encouraging woman to pray in the mesjid, but the scholar encourages woman to pray in the mesjid. If this scholar is following other madhab than the one I assume he does, if I followed that madhab I would follow his advice which contradicts a good hadeeth. So this option doesn’t work.

    So, why is it that modern scholars who follow their madhab contradict their madhab? If they do,,,,,
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    Re: Modern scholars

    wa alaykum us-Salaam wa rahmatullah
    you cant always have only 1 opinion on a certain matter...it isnt something unheard of or rejected. it's okay if you follow one imam or group of imams, but it is essential to realize that other imams will also have a different ruling on a certain matter as well, thus they shouldn't be rejected (not saying you do reject them) but rather respected.

    read this
    http://www.islamicboard.com/manners-...r-ijtihad.html

    see how both opinions are acceptable?


    Option # 2: I can follow a madhab and that way my scholars wouldn't contradict. But I have read fatwas by my beloved Muhammad Abdul Wahabb (love his wording in fatwas) and I don't have the ability to choose a stronger view. Hence I believe that there are stronger views due to the fact that today's scholars do have more information (hadeeths) than the scholars of the past (may Allah, azzawajall, be pleased with them all).
    but hadeeths arent the only source of knowledge scholars use to derive their rulings from. you should read the book "the evolution of fiqh," by Bilal Phillips. it will help you understand why the differing between mathhabs/ulamaa occurs.

    The thing is that I have read fatwas by madhabis who stick to their madhab and they contradict their madhab. I find their fatwas excessive. For example, the fatwa of those who stick to their madhab totally contradicted a sound hadeeth NOT encouraging woman to pray in the mesjid, but the scholar encourages woman to pray in the mesjid. If this scholar is following other madhab than the one I assume he does, if I followed that madhab I would follow his advice which contradicts a good hadeeth. So this option doesn’t work.

    So, why is it that modern scholars who follow their madhab contradict their madhab? If they do,,,,,
    i thought that was the whole point of following a mathhab becuase you cant analyze or understand the texts as they should be and hence the mathhab has done that for you

    i dont see what difference it makes whether you follow an imam or follow a mathhab? either way you are still following an imam, right

    why can't you just take the ruling of the imam you ask and stick by that why do you need to do all this investigating

    the imams are there for a reason and that's to help us explain things we dont know of the Quran and Sunnah so until/unless you have the knowledge on how to derive the rulings yourself, then it is essential to take the fatwa the imam gives you without as it is otherwise you will fall into much confusion.
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    Re: Modern scholars

    Who said that Bin Baaz or Ibn Uthaymeen are Selefi scholars? They strived to follow the path of Salaf, not a party/group called Selefi. You should listen to Ibn Uthaymeen's lecture on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeDFCYGD8Z8

    The word "Selefi" has been used ad nauseam. Why not just use Muslim?
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    Re: Modern scholars

    Praise be to Allah (The Glorified and Exalted).


    The following website is very good to use. The team takes the opinions of the various madhabs, and contemporary scholars, and chooses the one that has the greatest evidence.

    http://islamqa.com/en


    And Allah Knows Best.
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