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    Greetings,

    Looking on various websites I've come across kalam, but I've had some difficulty in working out what it is and what its place is in Islamic thought. Sometimes it's referred to as Islamic philosophy or a part of it, and sometimes it's written about as being something separate from Islamic philosophy. Is anyone able to explain or give links that explain these things?

    Thanks for your help.

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    Re: What is kalam?

    Alssalam Alaikum
    From what I read, Alkalam is an islamic philosophy, that was made after the prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) was dead, because some movements against islamic thoughts.
    That's a link I found in English, although it is long...
    http://www.livingislam.org/k/ki_e.html
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    Re: What is kalam?

    Greetings czgibson,

    Please check out this thread. I think you'll find it interesting.
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    Re: What is kalam?

    Aslaamu alaaykum..
    My suggestion is that you can maybe read Surah 68Al Qalam (The Pen).Maybe you find out by reading the Surah.. InshaAllaah i hope i helped , if not then sorry
    wa alaykum salaam..
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    Re: What is kalam?

    ^sister, he is asking about the theological/philosophical concept just in case you misunderstood it.

    @czgibson

    From main stream sunnis' point of view, it has nothing to do with Islam and its theology. It is simply a science/branch of philosophy and supposedly mixed with few Islamic theological concepts. It was brought forward to cope with atheists and philosophers. Here is a good video on the history of kalam and some of their beliefs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2K6-cvv6yY

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    Re: What is kalam?

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,

    Looking on various websites I've come across kalam, but I've had some difficulty in working out what it is and what its place is in Islamic thought. Sometimes it's referred to as Islamic philosophy or a part of it, and sometimes it's written about as being something separate from Islamic philosophy. Is anyone able to explain or give links that explain these things?

    Thanks for your help.

    Peace
    Well , as far as i know Kalam simple means "to talk" , "to speak" , atleast I had never heard some philospy about it , its just a word like other words.

    May be some others know about it.
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    Re: What is kalam?

    format_quote Originally Posted by islamiclife View Post
    ^sister, he is asking about the theological/philosophical concept just in case you misunderstood it.

    @czgibson

    From main stream sunnis' point of view, it has nothing to do with Islam and its theology. It is simply a science/branch of philosophy and supposedly mixed with few Islamic theological concepts. It was brought forward to cope with atheists and philosophers. Here is a good video on the history of kalam and some of their beliefs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2K6-cvv6yY

    Let me know if you need more material
    Oh Sorry ..hope someone answered for the sister/brother InshaAllaah
    What is kalam?

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    The best definition of Kalam is that it refers to Philosophy, greek philosophy in particular and it is usually considered anti islamic.

    Some people however use it to mean tawheed etc but that is not a good term for it
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    Re: What is kalam?

    Kalam was not taught by the Prophet saw. It is a human endeavor, one undertaken by Muslims, as they came into contact with Aristotelean, platoin, stoicism etc, to affirm the superiority of Islam over other ideologies.
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    Re: What is kalam?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Khaldun View Post


    The best definition of Kalam is that it refers to Philosophy, greek philosophy in particular and it is usually considered anti islamic.

    Some people however use it to mean tawheed etc but that is not a good term for it


    Akhee, if you visit the links posted by both myself and Br. islamiclife, Yasir Qadhi explains that Kalam and Philosophy are not quite the same thing. They're slightly different although many have conflated the two.
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    Re: What is kalam?

    English teachers at school when you dont do your homework give it a bit of kalam
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    Yes I know Brother Uthmaan, but when you read Kalam in the books of the past they most often then not refer to philosophy. Some people even call tawheed the essence of Islaam 'ilm al-Kalaam, which is obvious a big mistake.
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    Re: What is kalam?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Khaldun View Post


    Yes I know Brother Uthmaan, but when you read Kalam in the books of the past they most often then not refer to philosophy. Some people even call tawheed the essence of Islaam 'ilm al-Kalaam, which is obvious a big mistake.


    I see. Thanks for the clarification.
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