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Originally Posted by MuhammadIbrahim
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Originally Posted by MuhammadIbrahim
Ok there is another stories which my mother told me. So my mother visited her sister in Turkey, my aunt gave my mom her bedroom, while she and her husband slept in the living room. My mom told that she at nights she would feel someone touching her and during night she also saw the shadow of a woman sitting at the edge of her bed. Also she said how once she woke up in the middle of the night and she saw an orange ball flying in the air, the thing is my auntie and her husband saw this woman also few times, and they always this woman in this particular bedroom.
When my aunts husband first saw the woman he ran away screaming to their neighbors
My mom and aunty are not the ones who make up stories and lie. So i am 100% sure what say said is not a lie
:salam:
I want to meet a Jinn in Jannah, in shaa' Allah.
They have some awesome abilities. I like fire.. So it'd be nice to be able to turn into fire lol. AFAIK, Jinns have the ability to flow in our blood? Any scholars can confirm this.
So they may also be able to control our hormones. Idk, tho. But I am pretty sure I read that Allah gave shayateens / Jinns the ability to flow in the children of Adam :as: like blood.
Jinn is part of the unseen, so it is a whole new kind of science. AFAIK.
may Allah :swt: forgive me if I said anything wrong. Ameen.
Allahu alam.
I joined this forum to learn something about Islam, not to argue against it. However, this is one misconception I have seen here, repeatedly, and I would like to take a stab at clearing it up. I'll make just this one post, then I'm done.Quote:
Originally Posted by sister herb
There is a very vocal fundamentalist Christian element in American society that keeps trying to impose it's beliefs on the entire nation. Because of this, there are many legal cases dealing with what belongs in public education and exactly what "science" is (the Scopes "Monkey" trial; the Dover, Delaware decision, etc). The result has been a definition that will stand up in American courts (McLean v Arkansas), and is also useful in other applications.
Science, according to this definition:
1) Is concerned solely with the physical universe;
2) Seeks answers by referencing physical law;
3) Its conclusions can be tested;
4) It's conclusions can be falsified;
5) Its conclusions are tentative, subject to information previously unknown.
Jinn, if they exist, are supernatural beings. That is, they operate outside the rules of known physical law. Further, if they exist, they violate what is presently known about physical law (*this* is the primary problem scientists have with jinn, angels, souls, ghosts, gods and the like). Therefore, jinn are not proper subjects for scientific study.
It has been pointed out that there are conditions where neither Einsteinian nor Newtonian physical laws work. This is true enough, but science is gradually learning what these conditions are, and what new rules apply in these conditions. That's what science does; it corrects itself as new information is discovered. This correction usually is slow and difficult, but it does happen if warranted. Most new ideas fail to survive the scientific process, but many do survive and are adopted, often forcing older ideas to be changed or forgotten.
It may well be that science will eventually discover and explore the realm of the jinn. Until then, however, that realm exists outside of the known physical world and can be the subject only of anecdote and speculation.
OK, I'm done, except to answer sister herb's question: I have absolutely no doubt that some/many people would refuse to believe, no matter what evidence is placed in front of them. Human beings are like that. Look at Trump's fight with the Khans: Trump insists that the Khans "viciously attacked" him, and he is supported by many others. I saw Mr. Khan's speech, and I didn't hear Mr. Khan say anything that wasn't true. People hear and see what they want to hear and see. This applies to atheists and pagans, but also to believers as well.
My question was totally rhetorical (but thanks for answering anyways).Quote:
Originally Posted by jabeady
Have you then seen a jinn ever? I am not sure can only Muslims see jinns or every others too. Basicly it would feel possible that they can.
Have I ever seen a jinn? Not in the way you mean. I have *thought* that I have seen things, but I have learned to distrust my senses, and to distrust my memory most of all. Wherever it was possible to investigate what I thought I saw, it turned out to be rather ordinary.Quote:
Originally Posted by sister herb
I used to live next to a cemetery. I'd go over there on clear nights to set up my telescope among the tombstones to study the moon, stars and planets. I saw lots of wildlife, fox rabbits and the occasional coyote (wild dog), but nothing else. It's hard to believe that any ghosts or spirits were afraid of the pistol I usually had with me.
I don't know where you live, but here in the US, and I think in the UK, ghost hunting TV shows are pretty popular. Of course, no one ever finds anything on these shows, but some of them are kind of fun to watch. Also, any kind of "horror" movie will generally get a good audience, and HP Lovecraft and Edgar Allan Poe are considered two of the best English language authors. Halloween (aka All Hallows Eve), October 31st, is becoming a more popular holiday in the US than Christmas, a fact that has many Christians frothing at the mouth.
Yes, there are plenty of people here that believe in things like ghosts and demons, but they're in the minority. Culturally, though, the supernatural is good entertainment and nothing more.
Salam alaykum
Yeah, I've had a few encounters. The way that I "see" jinns is hard to explain. I don't physically see them, but I sense their presence. It's almost like going through a forest during night time inasmuch as I can hear something, but don't know where it's coming from. They communicate with me by telepathy; I've never heard a jinn communicate in an audible voice. Sometimes I hear more than one at a time.
When I was at a hospital, I could see a female jinn looking into the room I was in. That same jinn has visited me in my room a few times, although I haven't seen her in months. At any rate, she's a friendly jinn (I don't know if she's a muslim, though).
Yeah I saw a green reptile strangling my neck in the mirror, I said authobillah and alhamdulillah it disappeared