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Do i have no control over death or life?

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    Do i have no control over death or life?

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    Can my time of death be changed by my efforts ( security guards, healthy diet, excercise etc) or it only changes through Dua?
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    Re: Do i have no control over death or life?

    I don't want to start a controversy.

    But our understanding in these matters are very limited. Allah knows all. Every moment we have gone through, monents we will go through choices we will have to make and the outcomes of those choices..

    Like a video game. The programmer already knows all the possible moves and the consequences. Does the programmer force the player to do things? But the programmer can know what the player is going to do by knowing all the available choices given a particular situation. But still, the choice needs to be the player's. But the programmer can effect the outcome.

    So, in this light, I have no fixed belief. I grew up believing we agreed for a fixed term on earth before we return to Allah. But it could be influenced by the decisions we make. Allahu alem.


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    As long as my heart does beat, I shall live, not lie
    For when my heart does stop its beat, with truth, I die.
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    Re: Do i have no control over death or life?

    Let me make clear that for Allah to know all is for all to be predetermined. If anyone tries to unite that statement with the suggestion that free will exists you have created a contradiction. Now, you can only choose one of the two: either you have free will, or everything is already determined.

    format_quote Originally Posted by 500yardsoffo View Post
    Can my time of death be changed by my efforts ( security guards, healthy diet, excercise etc) or it only changes through Dua?
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    Re: Do i have no control over death or life?

    Thanks for replying !and Can anybody please give quranic refrences alongwith the answers.
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    Re: Do i have no control over death or life?

    format_quote Originally Posted by 500yardsoffo View Post
    Thanks for replying !and Can anybody please give quranic refrences alongwith the answers.


    Check out the following link. it helps with your understanding this issue.

    http://www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/16483

    Of particular note I'd like to point out the following from this answer:

    Therefore, the matter of taqdeer is one which is impossible to comprehend. In fact, it should not be discussed excessively. Wahb ibn Munabbih (Rahmatullah Alayhi), who was amongst the Tabi'een, said, "I looked into the matter of qadar, and I was bewildered. I looked into it again, and I was still bewildered. I then concluded that the most knowledgeable of people regarding qadar are those who keep the farthest away from it, and the most ignorant of people regarding qadar are those who talk most about it." This is also supported by what Rasulullah (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) said: "When destiny is discussed, restrain yourself from it." (Tabarani)
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    Re: Do i have no control over death or life?

    Allah has give brains to think. So think properly by the Quran. Do good deeds for the sake of Allah. And put that intelligence to the ground to be in humility.
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    Re: Do i have no control over death or life?

    format_quote Originally Posted by 500yardsoffo View Post
    Can my time of death be changed by my efforts ( security guards, healthy diet, excercise etc) or it only changes through Dua?
    ??? Read quran bro
    Do i have no control over death or life?

    قال النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم:*الـحياءُ شُعْبَةٌ مِنَ الاِيِمَانِ*
    و قال ايضا:*الحياء لاياتى الا بخير
    و قال ايضا:*اذا لم تستحي،فاصنع ما شئت*
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    Re: Do i have no control over death or life?

    Whenever it comes to a question that troubles me, I think of it this way. It sometimes helps. I saw a scholar talk about this.

    Can you think up a new color? No. Our brain only has the ability to think to a certain limit, you cannot understand things beyond that, or even think or wonder about things beyond that, because just like every other organ in our body, our brain has limitations. Allah understands it. So leave it to Him.
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    Re: Do i have no control over death or life?

    format_quote Originally Posted by SAROYA View Post
    Let me make clear that for Allah to know all is for all to be predetermined. If anyone tries to unite that statement with the suggestion that free will exists you have created a contradiction. Now, you can only choose one of the two: either you have free will, or everything is already determined.
    This is relies on a false premise.

    The correct answer is: we have free will and everything is determined
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    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.
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