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    Severeal questions about prayers

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    Salam Aleikum

    What do we call it when we pray in mosque together and when the imam is leading the prayer?
    And which salat are those?

    Before salah imam or someone shouts out the adhaan I think it's called, and aftee that they prepere for salah by shouting something, what is it called?

    In some salats as Asr, I've seen people pray 2 rakats before we pray it together. What and why do they pray it?

    You know when the imam is leading the prayer and he says allahu akbar, sometimes im not done with the surah, do I just stop there and go into next position, as imam? or?

    I'm not sure, but I hope I learn.
    Hope I didn't mention something wrong. Sorry that im unclear, there are things I want to know in Islam, trying to search experience.
    And Allah Knows best.
    Please if you have sources, add them in comments. Thanks brothers and sisters.
    Salam aleikum
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    Re: Severeal questions about prayers

    1. Congregation
    2. Obligatory Salat
    3. The muezzin gives the adhaan, and then the iqamah.
    4. Sunnah/Nafl prayers, extra prayers. There are no sunnah/nafl prayers before Asr.
    5. I heard that its ok and just follow the imam, but I'll leave it to someone else.
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    Re: Severeal questions about prayers

    Is Iqamah obligatory? Do people recite it when people pray in groups or individually?
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    Re: Severeal questions about prayers

    Salam.

    The iqamah or "second Athan" is only used in congregations to alert those in or near the masjid that the congregational prayer is starting.

    Many congregations do not pray instantly after the Athan but rather wait 15mins, 30mins, even up to an hour after the Athan, to allow the maximum number of people join the congregation. For example my local mosque/masjid prayer Fajr at 6:15am (Athan is 5:57am) so it's almost 20 minutes later thus there is a "second Athan" before the congregational prayer starts is needed to alert people to what is happening. If you are praying at home alone and ontime then it's not necessary.

    Hope that helps. Allah knows best.
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    Re: Severeal questions about prayers

    Assalaamu alaikum,

    (smile) I hope the following may be of help:

    Fiqh of Adhan and Iqama when Praying Alone


    JUNE 17, 2009 BY EDITORfacebook 1 - Severeal questions about prayerstwitter 1 - Severeal questions about prayersemail 1 - Severeal questions about prayersprint 1 - Severeal questions about prayers

    Answerd by Mufti Muhammd ibn Adam

    Question : If I am praying an obligatory prayer alone at home, do I need to say the Adhan and Iqama?

    Answer : Sayyiduna Uqba ibn Amir (may Allah be pleased with him) relates that I heard the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) say: “Your Lord, the Exalted, is pleased with a shepherd of goats at the peak of a mountain, who makes the call to prayer (gives the Adhan) and offers prayer. Allah, the Exalted, says, “Look at this servant of mine; he gives the Adhan and Iqama for prayer out of fear for me. I have forgiven my slave and entered him into Paradise.” (Sunan Abi Dawud no: 1196, Sunan Nasa’i no: 665 and Musnad Ahmad 4/157)

    Sayyiduna Malik ibn al-Huwayrith (may Allah be pleased with him) says that two men came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), wanting to travel. So the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “When you set out, give the Adhan and the Iqama and then the oldest of you should be the Imam.” (Sahih al-Bukhari no: 604)

    Sayyiduna Salman al-Farisi (may Allah be pleased with him) relates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “If a man is in a deserted land and the time of prayer arrives, thus he performs ablution (wudhu); and if he does not find water he performs the dry ablution (tayammum). If he gives the Iqama [and offers prayer], his two angels offer prayer with him, and if he gives the Adhan and Iqama, an army of Allah pray behind him – the two sides of which is not visible [due to it’s sheer number].” (Musannaf Abd al-Razzaq no: 1955 and Al-Mu’jam al-Kabir of Tabarani 6/249)

    The follower (tabi’i), Tawus (Allah be pleased with him) says: “When a man [who is alone] offers prayer with Iqama, his two angels pray with him. And when he gives the Adhan and Iqama, many angels offer prayer with him.” (Musannaf Abd al-Razzaq no: 1952. Similar statements have been recorded in the same chapter of the Al-Musannaf from Abdullah ibn Umar, Mak’hul and Sa’id ibn al-Masayyab, may Allah be pleased with them all).

    It is stated in the renowned Hanafi Fiqh primer, Nur al-Idah:

    It is an emphasized (mu’akkada) Sunna to give both the Adhan and Iqama for obligatory prayers (fara’idh), even when praying alone, whether for current prayers or make-up prayers, whether on journey or at home, for men. It is [prohibitively] disliked for women to give both the Adhan and Iqama. (See: Shurunbulali, Maraqi al-Falah Sharh Nur al-Idha, P: 194-195)

    It is stated in another Hanafi Fiqh primer, Kanz al-Daqa’iq:

    It is [prohibitively] disliked for a traveller to omit both the Adhan and Iqama, but not for the one praying alone at home within a town [where Adhan and Iqama have been given in the local Mosque]… (Kashf al-Haqa’iq Sharh Kanz al-Daqa’iq, 1/39)

    Based on the above Hadiths and based on the above and other similar texts found in classical Hanafi works, there are few scenarios to the situation at hand:

    1) For a non-traveller; when praying alone at home or elsewhere, if he is not in the vicinity of a Mosque where the Adhan and Iqama have been given, then it is an emphasized Sunna to give both. As such, it is prohibitively disliked (makruh tahrim) to omit both the Adhan and Iqama. However, if he were to merely omit the Adhan and not the Iqama, then it is not disliked. On the contrary, if he were to omit the Iqama but give the Adhan, then it is disliked.

    The reason for this, as explained by Imam Ibn Abidin in light of the Hadiths quoted above, is that the objective of Adhan is not restricted to calling others for prayer; but rather, the objective includes proclaiming the name of Allah and his religion in the lands, and reminding the slaves of Allah consisting of human and Jinn of this.

    2) For a non-traveller; when praying alone at home or elsewhere, if he is in the vicinity of a Mosque where the Adhan and Iqama have been given, then it is recommended (not emphasized Sunna) to give both the Adhan and Iqama. As such, it is not disliked to omit both. Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Mas’ud (may Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have said: “The Adhan of the vicinity is enough for us (adhan al-hay yakfina).” One should, however, try and at least give the Iqama.

    3) For a traveller, it is an emphasized Sunna to give both the Adhan and Iqama. As such, it is prohibitively disliked (makruh tahrim) to omit both. However, if he were to merely omit the Adhan and not the Iqama, then it is not disliked. On the contrary, if he were to omit the Iqama but give the Adhan, then it is disliked.

    Finally, two points are worth considering:

    Firstly, both Adhan and Iqama are Sunnas for men only, and not women, rather it is disliked for women to give Adhan and Iqama, as reported from Ibn Umar, Anas and others (Allah be pleased with them). The reason for this is that Adhan and Iqama are from the Sunnas of congregation, and the basis of men’s prayer is that it is performed in congregation; thus, when they pray alone, they perform it as the congregational prayer. The basis of women’s prayer, however, is that it is performed alone, and as such, Adhan and Iqama are not Sunna for them.

    Secondly, where it is prohibitively disliked (makruh tahrim) for a man to omit the Adhan and Iqama, if he were to pray without giving the Adhan and Iqama, his prayer is still valid and he is not required to repeat it. (The above details are gathered from Radd al-Muhtar ala ‘l-Durr al-Mukhtar 1/394-395, Al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya 1/54, Maraqi al-Falah Sharh Nur al-Idah with the Hashiya of Tahtawi P: 194-195, Imdad al-Fattah Sharh Nur al-Idah P: 192-193, Kashf al-Haqa’iq Sharh Kanz al-Daqa’iq with Sharh al-Wiqaya on the margins 1/39, and Umdat al-Fiqh 1/38)

    And Allah knows best
    Muhammad ibn Adam
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    Leicester , UK

    Source: http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2009/...praying-alone/
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    Re: Severeal questions about prayers



    In the mosque we pray in jamma (group) where one person leads the jammah. This is done for all 5 obligatory salaahs and any other salaahs deem necessary, such as the janazah (funeral) prayer or eid.

    The adhan (call to prayer) is given to call the community to prayer. The 2nd "adhan" is the iqamah to alert everyone to stand in lines and get ready for the imam to lead. These are all sunnahs of the prayer.

    The 2 rakahs of prayer that you see is the 'greetings to the mosque' prayers. It is prayed first when entering the mosque. It's not connected to any prayer. You can read more about it here: https://islamqa.info/en/181099

    When you are standing in the jammah then your salah is dependent on the imam. If he's salah is complete then yours is complete as well, if he makes a mistake and his salah is not complete then yours is not either. And he is the leading the group so you have to follow the leader and his commands. If you can finish your recitation before the imam finishes the next position then you can and join him, but if you can't then you join the imam. The norm is that you follow the imam. You can read more about it here inshallah: https://islamqa.info/en/33790
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    Re: Severeal questions about prayers

    Welcome to the forum.

    I think the above is the clearest explanation. But just to elaborate further, the 2 rakaat prayer before Asr that you observed could be one of two, either the 'greetings to the mosque' prayer or the sunnah prayer prior to the fardh. (There are also sunnah prayers after the fared. Not all parch prayers have them all).

    Wishing you a great stay.


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    Re: Severeal questions about prayers

    You all helped me!! Thanks
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