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    Hi, I dont know much about Islam & muslims, its new to me, I was wondering if a muslim could answer my question, its about the muslim extremists, no, i dont think all muslims are extremists, everybody has the right to be treated as equal unless they give people a reason not to be


    my question was basically about these extremists who proclaim their disgust for the western world, mainly the UK and the USA

    fair enough, i could see why they would think we are disgusting, we obsess over porn, we are materialistic, we dont care about others, etc

    if that goes against what muslims believe then so be it


    but what i dont get is why they insist on comming to the western world, only to proclaim their hate for it???


    they maon about us, and the majority of muslim extremists in the UK claim benefits, they dont contribute, yet its the very people who they claim to hate whos taxes pay for their very existences

    we hear of them dreaming of a muslim country, the UK and the USA embracing islam, but what reason would they possibly think 2 countries that have been christian since they day they were discovered would drop all their own beliefs and all convert to islam?

    i dont understand it myself

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    Re: a question about islam and its followers

    Hello,

    As much as you do not understand why they do such acts, we do not understand either. Therefore could not really answer your question.

    http://www.madeenah.com/category.cfm?id=15

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    Re: a question about islam and its followers

    thanks for the link

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    Re: a question about islam and its followers

    hello there! If I were you I would not worry too much about the retarded masqueraders. dont forget to read the link provided by Sr. Almumin'ah
    Quote Originally Posted by Mashman View Post
    Hi, I dont know much about Islam & muslims, its new to me, I was wondering if a muslim could answer my question, its about the muslim extremists, no, i dont think all muslims are extremists, everybody has the right to be treated as equal unless they give people a reason not to be


    my question was basically about these extremists who proclaim their disgust for the western world, mainly the UK and the USA

    fair enough, i could see why they would think we are disgusting, we obsess over porn, we are materialistic, we dont care about others, etc

    if that goes against what muslims believe then so be it


    but what i dont get is why they insist on comming to the western world, only to proclaim their hate for it???


    they maon about us, and the majority of muslim extremists in the UK claim benefits, they dont contribute, yet its the very people who they claim to hate whos taxes pay for their very existences

    we hear of them dreaming of a muslim country, the UK and the USA embracing islam, but what reason would they possibly think 2 countries that have been christian since they day they were discovered would drop all their own beliefs and all convert to islam?

    i dont understand it myself
    they maon about us, and the majority of muslim extremists in the UK claim benefits, they dont contribute, yet its the very people who they claim to hate whos taxes pay for their very existences
    All you can do is: your duty to report to authrities any criminal activity you notice, be it benefit fraud or hate preaching.

    wa salam (and peace)

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    Re: a question about islam and its followers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mashman View Post
    Hi, I dont know much about Islam & muslims, its new to me, I was wondering if a muslim could answer my question, its about the muslim extremists, no, i dont think all muslims are extremists, everybody has the right to be treated as equal unless they give people a reason not to be


    my question was basically about these extremists who proclaim their disgust for the western world, mainly the UK and the USA

    fair enough, i could see why they would think we are disgusting, we obsess over porn, we are materialistic, we dont care about others, etc

    if that goes against what muslims believe then so be it


    but what i dont get is why they insist on comming to the western world, only to proclaim their hate for it???


    they maon about us, and the majority of muslim extremists in the UK claim benefits, they dont contribute, yet its the very people who they claim to hate whos taxes pay for their very existences


    we hear of them dreaming of a muslim country, the UK and the USA embracing islam, but what reason would they possibly think 2 countries that have been christian since they day they were discovered would drop all their own beliefs and all convert to islam?

    i dont understand it myself


    Peace be upon those who follow the guidance,

    Thanks for your interest in Islam. for those who do not know, one way that best describes the Prophet Muhammad's mission is that he came to perfect good manners and to enjoin the good and to forbid evil!

    those who do otherwise are NOT on the straight path!

    as for whether or not the USA or the UK could ever become Muslim, why not? Islam is a continuation of what the Prophet Jesus(as) preached, except that Muhammad(saws) was sent to all mankind while Jesus(as) was sent to the lost sheep of Israel.

    the UK and the USA embracing islam, but what reason would they possibly think 2 countries that have been christian since they day they were discovered would drop all their own beliefs and all convert to islam?

    there is also a little bit of arrogance there. there WERE people living in the Americas long before xtians showed up...

    and the UK, well at least Britian was pretty darn pagan what with druidism and all...

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    Had the non-believer known of all the Mercy which is in the Hands of Allah, he would not lose hope of entering Paradise, and had the believer known of all the punishment which is present with Allah, he would not consider himself safe from the Hell-Fire
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    Re: a question about islam and its followers

    but what i dont get is why they insist on comming to the western world, only to proclaim their hate for it???

    they maon about us, and the majority of muslim extremists in the UK claim benefits, they dont contribute, yet its the very people who they claim to hate whos taxes pay for their very existences

    we hear of them dreaming of a muslim country, the UK and the USA embracing islam, but what reason would they possibly think 2 countries that have been christian since they day they were discovered would drop all their own beliefs and all convert to islam?
    I am a Muslim and it bugs me...

    But, I suppose the reason why they would justify their absolute nonsense would probably boil down to an interview I heard last year where a news presenter was interviewing the Head of an Extremist Islamist organization in Britain that advocated the establishment of Shariah Law.

    When the person was asked how it could even be considered feasible that Sharia Law should be established on a secular, Western country with Christian roots and tradition, he responded that Allah (God) created the Earth for everyone, and he had the right to establish Shariah anywhere on God's land.

    But the majority of mainstream Muslims (if I'm right or not) do not conform to this vision of an idealized world, particularly in the wildly different circumstances that the world is in now.

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    Re: a question about islam and its followers

    Quote Originally Posted by omar_2133 View Post
    When the person was asked how it could even be considered feasible that Sharia Law should be established on a secular, Western country with Christian roots and tradition, he responded that Allah (God) created the Earth for everyone, and he had the right to establish Shariah anywhere on God's land.

    But the majority of mainstream Muslims (if I'm right or not) do not conform to this vision of an idealized world, particularly in the wildly different circumstances that the world is in now.
    doesnt Allah have a right to establish his shariah anywhere tho? that comment was justified, but honestly we need to start from the east and work towards the west. Just jumping at the west with nothing at hand is silly...
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    Re: a question about islam and its followers

    Mashman,
    IMHO Elitism.

    Once you convince your self that you, your religion, your gender, or your <Insert anything> is superior to all others, you can justify any thing you want.

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    Re: a question about islam and its followers

    This has nothing to do with 'elitism' it has to do with what is satisfactory to the heart and mind and beneficial to humanity.. I don't think 18th century French constitution is working in Lebanon or Egypt.. Do you? I don't see how the law of man is superior to the law of God!
    You are of course entitled to your opinion!
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    Dear Mashman,
    What u have been saying is absolutely right, but you have to remember that these people and these concepts dont in any means represnt Islam. Islam can't be representedy by few youngmen with no experience in their religion nor the world.

    Here's a link for a lecture named: Between Integration and Introversion.
    http://www.amrkhaled.net/articles/articles542.html

    There's another link for a series named: A Call for Coexistence
    http://www.amrkhaled.net/acategories/categories222.html

    I hope you can figure things out

    Thank you for your question


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