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    Tips for studying a subject like history (OP)


    Could you give some tips on how to study history as it is a difficult subject with so many battles , dates , ...
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    Well I think it's actually using things from there
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    You are referring to the following Ahaadeeth:

    عن عبد الله بن عمر رضي الله عنهما قال : لما مر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم بالحجر
    قال : لا تدخلوا مساكن الذين ظلموا أنفسهم أن يصيبكم ما أصابهم إلا أن تكونوا باكين ثم قنع رأسه ، وأسرع السير حتى أجاز الوادي

    Hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn `Umar رضي الله عنهما narrates: "When Nabi صلى الله عليه وسلم passed by al-Hijr, he said: "Do not enter the dwellings of those who had wronged themselves, less what (`Adhaab) afflicted them afflicts you, except in the state of crying." Thereafter, he covered his head and hastened the travel until he had passed the valley." [Narrated in Saheeh al-Bukhaari.]

    عن عبد الله بن عمر رضي الله عنهما ، أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم لما نزل الحجر في غزوة تبوك أمرهم ألا يشربوا من بئرها ، ولا يستقوا منها ، فقالوا : قد عجنا منها ، واستقينا ، فأمرهم أن يطرحوا ذلك العجين ، ويهريقوا ذلك الماء

    Hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn `Umar رضي الله عنهما narrates that when Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم passed by al-Hijr on the way to Tabook, he commanded them (the Sahaabah) not to drink from the well nor collect water from it. They said: "We have made dough (using this water) and we have collected water from it." So he ordered them to throw away that dough and to throw out the water (that they had collected)." [Narrated in Saheeh al-Bukhaari.]

    Imaam ibn Hajr al-`Asqalaani رحمة الله عليه said:

    وفي الحديث الحث على المراقبة ، والزجر عن السكنى في ديار المعذبين ، والإسراع عند المرور بها

    "In this Hadeeth, there is encouragement towards Muraaqabah (contemplation), and warning from staying in the lands of those who are punished, and to make haste when passing by (these dwellings)."

    Imaam ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah رحمة الله عليه said:

    من مر بديار المغضوب عليهم والمعذبين لم ينبغ له أن يدخلها ، ولا يقيم بها ، بل يسرع السير ، ويتقنع بثوبه حتى يجاوزها ، ولا يدخل عليهم إلا باكيا معتبرا

    "Whosoever passes by the dwellings of those upon whom is the Anger of Allaah and who are punished, then it is not appropriate for him to enter (those dwellings) nor to stay there; rather, he should hasten his travel and cover his head with his garment until he has passed by it, and he should not enter upon them except in the state of crying and taking lesson."

    Imaam al-Qurtubi, Imaam an-Nawawi and others, have mentioned that Salaah performed at these places is not valid. These are places that are cursed and which the `Adhaab of Allaah Ta`aalaa befell. The reason for staying away is because, if a person enters them, that very same `Adhaab that befell them can befall this one who enters. Thus, the wise person will stay away from them entirely. People who would travel there today would do so as some kind of sight-seeing trip, a "joy ride", and snapping away "selfies" and stuff like that, and so the `Adhaab of these places can overtake them.

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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    Assalamu alaykum,

    I just love studying history. I've always been fascinated with ancient Egypt, the 'cradles of civilisation', and I've particularly liked researching about the background and history of the monotheistic faiths. Amazon was my best friend - I got my hands on all types of weird and interesting books you'd never find in the local library.

    Oh, and those ancient superpowers and empires - I realised the past was most of the time a dark place to be, if you were in a brief pocket of 'peace' you were lucky.

    My studies have pretty casual, but as a general tip on memorisation - make short, concise notes, either through timetables or bullet points and reread them again and again. And also associate the date with a central event, it'll help you remember. Some good old rote-learning never goes to waste.
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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    Quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    You are referring to the following Ahaadeeth:

    عن عبد الله بن عمر رضي الله عنهما قال : لما مر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم بالحجر
    قال : لا تدخلوا مساكن الذين ظلموا أنفسهم أن يصيبكم ما أصابهم إلا أن تكونوا باكين ثم قنع رأسه ، وأسرع السير حتى أجاز الوادي

    Hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn `Umar رضي الله عنهما narrates: "When Nabi صلى الله عليه وسلم passed by al-Hijr, he said: "Do not enter the dwellings of those who had wronged themselves, less what (`Adhaab) afflicted them afflicts you, except in the state of crying." Thereafter, he covered his head and hastened the travel until he had passed the valley." [Narrated in Saheeh al-Bukhaari.]
    Interesting bro, I do recall reading these ahadeeth a long time ago, but found them quite problematic, I'll explain why in a moment in sha Allah, maybe you can help me to understand these better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    عن عبد الله بن عمر رضي الله عنهما ، أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم لما نزل الحجر في غزوة تبوك أمرهم ألا يشربوا من بئرها ، ولا يستقوا منها ، فقالوا : قد عجنا منها ، واستقينا ، فأمرهم أن يطرحوا ذلك العجين ، ويهريقوا ذلك الماء

    Hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn `Umar رضي الله عنهما narrates that when Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم passed by al-Hijr on the way to Tabook, he commanded them (the Sahaabah) not to drink from the well nor collect water from it. They said: "We have made dough (using this water) and we have collected water from it." So he ordered them to throw away that dough and to throw out the water (that they had collected)." [Narrated in Saheeh al-Bukhaari.]

    Imaam ibn Hajr al-`Asqalaani رحمة الله عليه said:

    وفي الحديث الحث على المراقبة ، والزجر عن السكنى في ديار المعذبين ، والإسراع عند المرور بها

    "In this Hadeeth, there is encouragement towards Muraaqabah (contemplation), and warning from staying in the lands of those who are punished, and to make haste when passing by (these dwellings)."
    Where is the encouragement towards contemplation? I don't see it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    Imaam ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah رحمة الله عليه said:

    من مر بديار المغضوب عليهم والمعذبين لم ينبغ له أن يدخلها ، ولا يقيم بها ، بل يسرع السير ، ويتقنع بثوبه حتى يجاوزها ، ولا يدخل عليهم إلا باكيا معتبرا

    "Whosoever passes by the dwellings of those upon whom is the Anger of Allaah and who are punished, then it is not appropriate for him to enter (those dwellings) nor to stay there; rather, he should hasten his travel and cover his head with his garment until he has passed by it, and he should not enter upon them except in the state of crying and taking lesson."

    Imaam al-Qurtubi, Imaam an-Nawawi and others, have mentioned that Salaah performed at these places is not valid. These are places that are cursed and which the `Adhaab of Allaah Ta`aalaa befell. The reason for staying away is because, if a person enters them, that very same `Adhaab that befell them can befall this one who enters. Thus, the wise person will stay away from them entirely. People who would travel there today would do so as some kind of sight-seeing trip, a "joy ride", and snapping away "selfies" and stuff like that, and so the `Adhaab of these places can overtake them.

    والله تعالى أعلم

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    This sounds very superstitious and Islam did away with superstition. Also, in light of Qur'an, it seems the ahadeeth you quoted directly contradict the ayaat:

    “Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): Travel in the land and see what was the end of those who rejected truth”[al-An’aam 6:11]

    This ayah above is clearly commanding the Prophet pbuh to tell them (the believers) to go visit those perished nations to see what befell them for rejecting truth. This idea is in the Qur'an but none of the ahadeeth you quoted, and I did mention above how you quoted Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani RA to have said "there is encouragement towards Muraaqabah (contemplation)" this is not in the ahadeeth you quoted - but Qur'an. The idea is evident in Al An'aam 6:11 - to see what befell them for disbelieving - that is an invited inference to contemplating reality from Qur'an. It seems to contradict the narrative of hadeeth which shun the idea of contemplation in lieu of hurrying past the area in fear for superstitious things happening. I don't buy it.

    “Say to them (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): “Travel in the land and see how has been the end of the Mujrimoon (criminals, those who denied Allaah’s Messengers and disobeyed Allaah)”[al-Naml 27:69]

    Commenting on this ayah, al-Qaasimi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said they are the ones who go to different places to study the ruins and learn a lesson from them and seek other benefits. Mahaasin al-Ta’weel (16/225).

    My issue is as follows.

    The hadeeth suggest not to visit these places.

    The Qur'an suggest that we do.

    Why?

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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    When I was a kid, I read everything about native Americans and their history and dreamed I would know few of them at one day. And what a surprise, I really got to know one of them later. What was bigger surprise - she too was the Muslim.
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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    My advice is to look at history from the perspective of common people who were affected by it, not just as a battle of kings, nations, armies, and empires. Look at how it affects people. A big mistake historians later down the road can make with regards to studying Muslims in our time is not following this advice. Too often politicians and their followers, as well as historians, see things in black and white, or as nation vs nation, without regards to how war affects common people caught up in the crosshairs, such as "collateral damage" in Modern day Western (and Muslim) bombings of Muslim countries in an effort to root out terrorists and enemy combatants.

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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    I'm rather confused. The Qur'aan seems to suggest, from my understanding, that we should visit the perished nations to take lesson and learn from them.

    Does the hadith prohibit it entirely? Qur'aan seems to encourage visiting...

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    Even that is half baked mustafa16
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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post

    Does the hadith prohibit it entirely? Qur'aan seems to encourage visiting...

    Indeed,

    I always favour the Qur'an over the ahadeeth anyhow so for me, there is no contention. I like to visit sites of antiquity to see things for my self - as long as it aint haraam bro, no one can tell me it's wrong

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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    History is my favorite subject. From a teachers point of view you do not necessarily need to know specific dates. You just need to know the order of events. What caused each event and the effect it had on the people socially economically, politically. When I'm teaching history I like to create a timeline and as we cover important events or learn about important people, I have students jot down the information and we put it on our timeline we made on our classroom wall. I believe their are free websites that allow you to do the same thing digitally. If you tell me which history you are studying I can find some resources for you.

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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    I guess everyone pretty much covered it up although I want to say it depends on the format of your exam. For us we had to answer 40(or 30) objective questions and about five subjective questions and one essay. I usually memorize the important bits or what usually comes out on past year papers and focus on them. It's not easy so I just go through speed reading the other chapters or just read what is most likely going to come up as a question.

    The important bits for me were about 6 chapters covering the early civillizations from Mesopotamia to Greece, Thailand and then colonization in South East Asia and its historical figures that resisted them.
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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    I taught history, rhetoric, literature, and technical writing at a university before I went back into the private sector (I now work in IT). I have a passion for history.

    Some things you might want to look at are

    1. History podcasts: Dan Carlin has a really good one called "Hardcore History". It is from a somewhat American point-of-view, but he stays pretty objective. The stories are fascinating and engaging. http://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/

    2. Find specialists in the given area who write books that appeal to a wide audience. I am sure there are many in Arabic, but as an English speaker, I can recommend Peter Hopkirk for histories of central Asia, Paul Johnson for American and British history, and Warren Treadgold for Greek and Byzantine history. These histories are illuminating and entertaining.

    3. Find yourself some good video documentaries. Even youtube has some good free stuff.

    4. Look at some historical memoirs. I have read many, and getting a first-hand account of events gives me much greater insight as to what "really happened". Some of these can be controversial (especially anything dealing with WWII), but those are typically the most interesting to read.
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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    Assalaam alaikum

    Quote Originally Posted by Silas View Post
    I taught history, rhetoric, literature, and technical writing at a university before I went back into the private sector (I now work in IT). I have a passion for history.


    Have you ever read the ancient historians like Herodotus, Thucydides, Strabo, Josephus etc?

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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    yes, my particular are of research was what we call late Imperial rhetoric, logic, and political discourse. Authors such as Macrobius, Symmachus, Julian, etc., but I did also touch on the older Greek authors.

    Those that are interested in these subjects should obviously read Ibn Rushd, Ibn Sina , and Al-Farabi as well, especially if you can read them in the original.







    Have you ever read the ancient historians like Herodotus, Thucydides, Strabo, Josephus etc?

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    Re: Tips for studying a subject like history

    I'm impressed, shame you live across the pond from me - we could have had a coffee together

    God bless,

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