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    Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

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    the Muhadith, the ‘Allaama, Shaykh of Hadeeth


    Muhammad Nasr ud-Deen al-Albaani



    Translated by


    Abbas Abu Yahya



    This is a translation of the transcript of a question that was asked to Shaykh al-Albaani - may Allaah have mercy upon him.

    Shaykh: Yes

    Questioner: Assalamu alaykum

    Shaykh: wa Alaykum Assalamu wa Rahmatullaahi wa Baraktuhu

    Questioner: If you don't mind is the noble Shaykh al-Albaani there?

    Shaykh: He's with you.

    Questioner: Good, if you would allow me O Shaykh I have some questions to ask.

    Shaykh: Go ahead.

    Questioner: Is it permissible to talk to my fiancée over the phone?

    Shaykh: have you contracted the marriage yet or not?

    Questioner: not yet.

    Shaykh: It's not permissible.

    Questioner: Not permissible??

    Shaykh: Not allowed.

    Questioner: Even if it's for advice?

    Shaykh: it's not permissible.

    Questioner: ok is it permissible for me to visit her and sit with her if the Mahram is present?

    Shaykh: with a Mahram being present and she comes in front of you wearing a Jilbaab in Hijab, like when she goes out, then it's allowed, otherwise no.

    Questioner: is it possible for her to uncover her face?

    Shaykh: it's possible, if it's only the face.

    Questioner: only the face?

    Shaykh: She shouldn't wear a beautified dress and a short dress etc.

    Questioner: ok regarding sitting with her, what is permissible for me to talk to her about?

    Shaykh: Do not talk to her except with what you would talk to with other than her.

    Questioner: Ok if she asks me for a picture of me, is it ok to give it to her or not?

    Shaykh: just like if you asked her for her picture.

    Questioner: yes??

    Shaykh: I said just like if you asked her for her picture.

    Questioner: yeah.

    Shaykh: Is it permissible?

    Questioner: No.

    Shaykh: and my answer is also no.

    Questioner: your answer is no??

    Shaykh: no, definitely no.

    Questioner: about what??

    Shaykh: About what! For the same thing what you said, that you cannot ask her for her picture.

    Questioner: yeah.

    Shaykh: understand?

    Questioner: yeah, yes.

    Shaykh: If you understand then stick to it.

    Questioner: But O Shaykh sometimes a person is forced to phone her, is this permissible?

    Shaykh: I don’t think there is a need, you want to marry her don’t you?

    Questioner: For example, is it permissible to phone her for the possibility that I can visit her, at such and such time?

    Shaykh: why do want to visit her?! What's the difference between her and any other woman?

    Questioner: Do you mean it's not allowed to visit her?

    Shaykh: O my brother, I say to you what's the difference between her and any other woman? Why do you want to visit her? You want to marry her; you marry her by requesting it from her guardian.

    Questioner: If her guardian is present?

    Shaykh: You want to marry her, you marry her by requesting her guardian, if there is an original agreement then you can visit her if the guardian is present, to see her and she sees you, as for visiting her then no!

    Questioner: It's still not allowed to visit even after the engagement?

    Shaykh: After the engagement?

    Questioner: Yeah.

    Shaykh: She remains to be a stranger to you O brother until you perform the marriage contract.

    Questioner: Thank you, may Allaah reward you O Shaykh.

    Shaykh: And you.

    Questioner: May Allaah be generous to you.

    Shaykh: May Allaah protect you… Sallamu alayk.

    Questioner: Assalamu alaykum

    Shaykh: Wa Alaykum Assalamu wa Rahmatullaahi wa Baraktuhu


    Taken from: Silsilah Huda wa Noor, tape no. 269 at 10mins
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    lol i found that funny mashaAllaah !
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    Lol why issit soundin like playa shiekh
    nah im kiddin, jazakallah khair sis

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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    Lol! I've read this somewhere before. It's still funny though.
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    i dont know a single person who is engaged that doesnt speak ova the phone. How else r u supposed to know the other person?

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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    Quote Originally Posted by maryam87 View Post
    i dont know a single person who is engaged that doesnt speak ova the phone. How else r u supposed to know the other person?
    get married
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    then get divorced when they realised they dont suit each other

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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    Depends on what you mean by engaged as well sis.
    I have relatives who have had their nikaah performed about 6 months before their departure from their house where they have their wedding 'party' but that was so they got to know each other before moving in and it's all halaal coz they've already maintained that they'll marry each other and have already done the preliminary checks and all....
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    "My sheikh said its halal"

    "My Sheikh told me its haram"

    some stuff I hear.

    jzk.
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    oh ok i understand what u mean
    Yeah but no-one unfortuanetly does it that way, it more like read the fatiha talk to each other if its all good after bout a couple of months get married

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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    Quote Originally Posted by maryam87 View Post
    then get divorced when they realised they dont suit each other

    My sister knew her husband before marriage. But they never seem to get along. My cousin met his wife many times before marriage and they ended up in a divorce. So it just depends on the person if (s)he wants to make it work or not.

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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    Quote Originally Posted by maryam87 View Post
    then get divorced when they realised they dont suit each other
    obviously u do a background check before marriage.


    you make sure your both attracted


    and then you get married


    and statistics SHOW


    .... you can be married 10 years thinkin u guys match n still end up in a divorce, u can THINK you match n still end up in a divorce after 2-3 months.


    think more deeply, if you marry for the sake of Allaah, you can make it last n love each other
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    i totally agree with u bro
    its jst try changing the minds of people they will think ur weird
    example my brother is getting engaged to this girl this saturday n they talk on the phone everyday apparently her parents are religious
    thats why i initially thought it was ok noone seemed to be saying otherwise
    i guess u learn something new everyday

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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?


    jazakiallahu khair for the share
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?



    BarakAllah feeki hun

    And at everybody else, you're just making a big hoo-haa over nothing
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    Quote Originally Posted by maryam87 View Post
    then get divorced when they realised they dont suit each other
    yes maryam87 you are correct.i have seen many extreme cases like this.

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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?


    Quote Originally Posted by maryam87 View Post
    its jst try changing the minds of people they will think ur weird
    OR you could set an example

    Quote Originally Posted by Diya View Post


    yes maryam87 you are correct.i have seen many extreme cases like this.
    thats why u pray istikhara
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diya View Post

    yes maryam87 you are correct.i have seen many extreme cases like this.
    True, but we shouldnt generalise. Many many people get married without having spoken without need or too frequently before marriage and they are now living happily ever after. Alhamdulillah.
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?


    ^ yeah people have been getting married this way for centuries...they're as happy as larry
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    Re: Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

    Quote Originally Posted by JolieFleur View Post
    True, but we shouldnt generalise. Many many people get married without having spoken without need or too frequently before marriage and they are now living happily ever after. Alhamdulillah.
    you know whats shocking bout that sis


    ive seen couples who married this way and live in such a way that people "THINK" from observation that they arent happy. But the actuality is this couple care for each other and love each other from the bottom of their hearts. Obviously it isnt for display.


    Even after all the troubles, worries fights and struggles they maintain the relationship, its just a new generation thing... dating/pre-marital business is the worst idea ever.
    Arranged is in my opinion.. the only way to a successful marriage
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