But I was wondering the ruling on Sister-in-Law, and if any of you guys have sister in laws or brother in laws, how do you maintain the Islamic Segregation? Especially while iving in the same house.
how do you maintain the Islamic Segregation? Especially while iving in the same house.
usually when my brothers in-law come over, we just don't sit/be around each other.thats it. im not sure there is any other way to do it. literally we are segregated.
if we need to eat, we eat in separate areas...lounge room for the men, dining room for the women.
basically if one needs something from somewhere where the opp gender is, we just tell someone else (eg parent, kid) to get it.
we manage, alhamdullilah, it isnt hard.
...desperate for husnul-khitaam...
please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.
Only problem is, I can't keep bugging my parents to get me something every time. In your case, I'm guessing it's only occasional. If it's long term, then I would need more accessibility, at least to perform the necessities, such as wudhu, drink of water, etc.
^ usually when things like prayer comes up, we just take it in turns. like my parents would notify us when the males are coming up to do wudu, so that if we
happen to be in the bathroom or somewhere in sight, we move out of the way so that we dont "bump" into one another.
basically we're just told to make way through an intermediary (eg my parents/brothers) for whatever things we may be doing or we may need you just need to ask politely and it's understood why you are asking them so many times.
...desperate for husnul-khitaam...
please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.
Firstly congratulations! May Allah grant the new couple a blissful wedded life and pious children ~ Ameen!
Ok as for segregation, the same rule for non mahrams apply. You can sit in the same room and talk in the presence of other members of the family. You can't be alone together at any time. Of course you can talk if it is necessary, but joking with each other must be avoided.
Actually one second, let me give you daleel inshaAllah..
Here goes..
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade non-mahrams (unrelated men) to enter upon women. He said: "Beware of entering upon women." One of the Sahaabah said to him, "O Messenger of Allaah, what about the brother-in-law?" He said: "The brother-in-law is death!" (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath al-Baari, 9/330).
We lived for 10 years with my Aunt/Uncle. My father and uncle used to announce their presence with a very loud 'Assalamoalaykum, I'm passing', whenever they needed to transverse neutral territory. Some areas like the kitchen were women only, and some bedrooms/dens men only. Of course,we children went wherever we wanted to, and were often used as messengers.
Now we don't live with our Uncle anymore but we still have the occasional non-mahram family member staying with us. We have the girls' bedrooms, one bathroom and the kitchen as women-only territory, and the boy's bedrooms and one bathroom as men-only territory. My parents and grandparent's rooms are neutral - you have to ask permission to enter. Alhamdulillah, the pardah is often so good that the women do not even realize when guest cousins are there, and when they have left.
salam,u r not supposed to talk to her freely.but wen living unter one roof necessities may arise to talk to each other.but take care that it doesn,t lead to freemixing.another thing even is she is younger to u give e respect to her as your brothers wife.u too will be respected in turn.inshahallah
Well when my sister got married, her brother in law did not talk to her at all, expect if my sis asked him if he wanted anything food-wise and even then that was rare. He was always upstairs or at work... This did work like, they never saw each other because they would take turns eating, he never went in the kitchen and yeh generally he was never anywhere she was.
The believer has four characteristics: if he is afflicted by any misfortune, he remains patient and steadfast. If he is given anything, he is grateful. If he speaks , he speaks the truth. If he passes judgment on any issue,he is just .
^ My case, except for the fact that neither of us have any interaction. The Prophet Sallallahu Alayhe Wasallam did say that the brother in law is like death though. I'm just a bit confused about the ruling. My main purpose about this thread though, is to figure out how others handle it. It's not exactly the easiest thing in the world, and at the same time, I don't want to burden my parents or anyone in that matter to give me this and that... It's my first time doing something like this while someone is staying overnight.
^ My case, except for the fact that neither of us have any interaction. The Prophet Sallallahu Alayhe Wasallam did say that the brother in law is like death though. I'm just a bit confused about the ruling. My main purpose about this thread though, is to figure out how others handle it. It's not exactly the easiest thing in the world, and at the same time, I don't want to burden my parents or anyone in that matter to give me this and that... It's my first time doing something like this while someone is staying overnight.
If you figure out a good way to ward off your sister in law let me know too, I have been trying to dodge my sis in law for years
yes I know I am a female but once you get sucked into the woes of your siblings' marriages you'd appreciate how staying away can potentially save your sanity .. albeit too late in my case now
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If you figure out a good way to ward off your sister in law let me know too, I have been trying to dodge my sis in law for years
yes I know I am a female but once you get sucked into the woes of your siblings' marriages you'd appreciate how staying away can potentially save your sanity .. albeit too late in my case now
LOLOLOL!
Well, with us it's more mutual. We both avoid each other completely, but it's a matter of organization. How do I organize things in a way where we don't ever run into each other? Some say to let the kitchen be the lady's section... But the kitchen is my second bedroom. I can't give it up. I gotta have that leftover biryani in the fridge.
If you guys don't know, there's a scarcity of Halaal KFC in America, and you have to pre-order large quantities, so we rarely have it. So it's sort of a race. Me Vs. My sister in law & brother. lol jk.
yeah right psh. I put it in the freezer so I could eat it while they are gone xD. Evil Genius.
But yeah, jazax to all those who did give their experiences above. It'll be an experience.... Just keep me in your duas. And advise me if you can. :X
Anyway are there times when you know she's not in the kitchen area? The even though you're not hungry, you could just go grab a plate of whatever food you want, cover it and take it to your room to have a couple hours later. And always keep a bottle of water in your room for when you get thirsty... Not so sure how you'd handle the wudhu issue.
"...You are my Walî in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die as a Muslim, and join me with the righteous." [Surah Yusuf 101]
Anyway are there times when you know she's not in the kitchen area? The even though you're not hungry, you could just go grab a plate of whatever food you want, cover it and take it to your room to have a couple hours later. And always keep a bottle of water in your room for when you get thirsty... Not so sure how you'd handle the wudhu issue.
Well, the other day a kid advised me to simply hold it in. "It's that simple. DUH."
lol... But yeah, I mean, what they do is, when they are out of their room, they keep their bedroom door open. That way I know where they are. It's not really THAT hard, but long-term, we need to set up something. As far as covering the food etc, I don't want to create a mess. What's easier for my parents is what counts at the end of the day, and it's not like it's any easier for my sister in law. With that in mind, I think we should take it one day at a time. Insha'Allah it'll be okay. I do thank the above for the advice, it DID actually help. I think we'll have to setup strict timings, and routine.
Pls forgive me for asking, I know it is rude.. but why are they living with you guys? I find that most odd indeed.. shouldn't they be honey mooning somewhere before they get their own place? How do you tolerate living with newly weds?
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what an awful tradition (I hope I am not offending anyone) but it isn't even Islamic at that.. what if you have four boys.. and they all get married, you'll have five families living in one house? that is nuts.. who came up with that rule? besides what if they want to stay out late or whatever.. do they come home and be scolded by the parents how awful in a hilarious manner.. I thought this was a weekend thing, when they come for a visit.. but an all day thing? surely not everyone does this? People have to move out sometime? I mean your parents aren't living with their parents so why is it different for the new generation? especially for newly weds.. how incredibly uncomfortable..
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what if you have four boys.. and they all get married, you'll have five families living in one house? that is nuts.. who came up with that rule?
yeah, they will all live together under the same roof.its considered a sign of great fortune that all the sons are living with the parents.otherwise,people think the sons have betrayed their parents and things like that.its so common here.they dont live in independent houses until they start hating each other to the extent that they want to drink each others bloodlol just kidding.actually,they separate a bit earlier than that.
in bigger families,when they have like six or seven sons,and in turn,their children of all the sizes whatsoever,the house literally looks like a zoo.you cant find a place where you can study calmly or sleep peacefully.children chirping every where.
i agree its nuts,but enjoyable.you can never be alone.
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