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    Marriage and Age.

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    - I'd be curious to know what Muslims think it would be the best age/time to get married

    - Should there be any age difference between partners? Does it matter to you, personally?
    Also, does the Q'uran say anything about this?

    - Would you turn someone down just because of their age?

    - Is it true that Muhammad married a 9 year old girl?

    - Is it prohibited for Muslim men to get married to underage girls or the other way around?

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    ASALAMKUM
    Better u should ask these questions to some AALIM or MUFTI to got clear answers...
    JZK

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    format_quote Originally Posted by EllyDicious View Post
    - I'd be curious to know what Muslims think it would be the best age/time to get married

    - Should there be any age difference between partners? Does it matter to you, personally?
    First of all,there is no specific age in islam,once they can have children wich called in arabic bloog they can get married,and its up to you when do you want to get married.Secondly i prefer to get married at the age of 21 or 20,it depends to your situation ^^

    Also, does the Q'uran say anything about this?

    i am not sure but what i know generally there is no specific age for marriage,as i told you once they can have children and you know what i mean.

    - Would you turn someone down just because of their age?
    prophet mohammed peace and blessing be upon him married kadijah the first woman when he was i think 25 while she was about 45,and he did stay with her alone until she died.For me i might turn someone because of the age it depends how many years between my future wife and i.

    - Is it true that Muhammad married a 9 year old girl?
    please do kindly watch this vidio to understand more about this marriage ^^
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt7vS7kxc50
    - Is it prohibited for Muslim men to get married to underage girls or the other way around?
    ^^ do you mean under 18,your question has been answerd already but they both male and female have rights to reject.

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    First off, I wanted your personal views. I don't need to ask aalim or mufti .
    Second, I don't know what the terms in bold mean.

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    I told you my opinion ^^

    why are you angry?

    i would like to marry at the age of 20 or 21,sounds good?^^

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    format_quote Originally Posted by omar ibrahim View Post
    I told you my opinion ^^

    why are you angry?

    i would like to marry at the age of 20 or 21,sounds good?^^
    sorry I wasn't angry. But you have a terrible way of quoting the message. lol. I thought you had just quoted my message and I didn't read the answer inside my quoted message lol.
    let me take a look at them now.

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    format_quote Originally Posted by EllyDicious View Post
    sorry I wasn't angry. But you have a terrible way of quoting the message. lol. I thought you had just quoted my message and I didn't read the answer inside my quoted message lol.
    let me take a look at them now.
    lool,thats fine,i will try to fix my way of quoting in threads ^^

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    @omar : the video would talk about that Aisha was young enough to get married, to have babies and that she should've grown older and give consent about this marriage.
    also, Muhammad [pbuh] died when she was a young lady ... but there was given no age [in numbers] for the cases I just mentioned.
    So still, i'm questioning what age she gave the consent to get married to Muhammad [pbuh]...

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    format_quote Originally Posted by EllyDicious View Post
    @omar : the video would talk about that Aisha was young enough to get married, to have babies and that she should've grown older and give consent about this marriage.
    also, Muhammad [pbuh] died when she was a young lady ... but there was given no age [in numbers] for the cases I just mentioned.
    So still, i'm questioning what age she gave the consent to get married to Muhammad [pbuh]...
    she married him completely at the age of 9 ^^.However in hot countries people grow up much faster.

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    from 1884-1914 in the west the age of consent in some places was as young as 7

    American reformers were shocked to discover that the laws of most states set the age of consent at the age of ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven. Women reformers and advocates of social purity initiated a campaign in 1885 to petition legislators to raise the legal age of consent to at least sixteen,
    http://womhist.alexanderstreet.com/teacher/aoc.htm

    if you wish to read more about the prophet's marriages
    you may do so here:
    http://www.islamicboard.com/showthread.php?5337

    here is what the Jews have to say:

    What is the minimum age of marriage according to Jewish law?
    by Rabbi Naftali Silberberg

    chupah 1 - Marriage and Age. Our Sages state1 that "it is forbidden for one to marry off his daughter until she is an adult and says 'this is the one I want to marry.'" It is forbidden for one to marry off his daughter until she is an adult and says 'this is the one I want to marry'!
    In ancient (and not so ancient) times however, marriage was often-times celebrated at a rather young age. Although we do not follow this dictum, technically speaking, a girl may be betrothed the moment she is born, and married at the age of three.2 A boy may betroth and marry at the age of thirteen.3 wwwislamicboardcom - Marriage and Age.Add a comment
    Footnotes

    • 1. Talmud Kiddushin 41a.
    • 2. Shulchan Aruch, Even HaEzer 37:1.
    • 3. Shulchan Aruch, Even HaEzer 43:1.



    you search the bible and you'll find that David took a concubine on his death bed:

    Abishag Was a young virgin from the town of Shunem, North of Jezreel and Mount Gilboa, in the territory of Issachar. (Jos 19:17-23) She was "beautiful in the extreme" and was chosen by David's servants to become the nurse and companion of the king during his final days.
    see 1Ki 1:1-4.
    David was now about 70 years of age (2Sa 5:4, 5), and as a result of debilitation he had little body heat. Abishag waited on him during the day, doubtless brightening the surroundings with her youthful freshness and beauty, and at night she "lay in the king's bosom"
    to give him warmth, but "the king himself had no intercourse with her." Nevertheless, the attitude later manifested by Solomon regarding her indicates that Abishag was viewed as being in the position of wife or concubine of David. As such, by a rule in the ancient East, she would become the property of David's heir at the time of his death



    so is your query simply directed at Muslims? If so, then Islam asks that we marry when certain milestones are met.
    1- financial ability
    2- physical ability
    3- psychological ability to handle a marriage!

    pls make use of our search feature since this particular topic crops up almost daily and has been addressed more than amply!

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    the age of aisha is not known according to historical events, these events contradict the hadith so her age is not known. also keep in mind we are talking about 1400years ago you cannot compare the young ladies of that age to the kids of today. it would be better for you if you did ask a mufti because on a forum you will just get confused and this is a very controversial topic
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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    format_quote Originally Posted by cat eyes View Post
    the age of aisha is not known according to historical events, these events contradict the hadith so her age is not known. also keep in mind we are talking about 1400years ago you cannot compare the young ladies of that age to the kids of today. it would be better for you if you did ask a mufti because on a forum you will just get confused and this is a very controversial topic
    you might be right sister,maybe the age of the engagement is not known.Allah knows best ^^.

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    genghis khan married at 9 years of age

    king edward 1st married at 15

    the 9 year old of that time was completely different to the 9 year old of today...so what's the fuss?

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abdullahii View Post

    the 9 year old of that time was completely different to the 9 year old of today...so what's the fuss?
    It wasn't that different given that Muhammad didn't go to live with her right away. They didn't have sexual intercourse since the beginning of their marriage. Muhammad would still play with toys and do things a parent does with the child.
    So at the beginning he was behaving as a parent rather than a partner.

    Which shows, 9 year olds at that time weren't that different from the 9 y.olds of today.

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    format_quote Originally Posted by EllyDicious View Post
    It wasn't that different given that Muhammad didn't go to live with her right away. They didn't have sexual intercourse since the beginning of their marriage. Muhammad would still play with toys and do things a parent does with the child.
    So at the beginning he was behaving as a parent rather than a partner.

    Which shows, 9 year olds at that time weren't that different from the 9 y.olds of today.
    Bring forth your proof madame

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abdullahii View Post
    genghis khan married at 9 years of age

    king edward 1st married at 15

    the 9 year old of that time was completely different to the 9 year old of today...so what's the fuss?
    I wouldn't bother answering anymore, she doesn't take the time to read, but always has something snide and ill-fitting to say!

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    All of you be sure that we dont know,when did the prophet start having deepen relationship with her.

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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    format_quote Originally Posted by EllyDicious View Post
    It wasn't that different given that Muhammad didn't go to live with her right away. They didn't have sexual intercourse since the beginning of their marriage. Muhammad would still play with toys and do things a parent does with the child.
    So at the beginning he was behaving as a parent rather than a partner.

    Which shows, 9 year olds at that time weren't that different from the 9 y.olds of today.
    yes a woman has to wait until she reaches the age of puberty once a girl reaches puberty then it means shes no longer a child but a woman. 9year olds today dont reach puberty only very few this shows that they were different so as i said her age is not known, there is alot of things which contradict that hadith which shows that its weak and muslims cant simply rely on it 100percent. so what we do is we go to the holy Quran and a girl clearly has to reach puberty for intercourse. every country has there own age limit also.
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    Re: Marriage and Age.

    puberty is a catch all term that denotes a period of three years where both biological and physiological changes take place that lead up to a certain point in females that change is menarche, and menarche according to the American pediatric association occurs anywhere between (9-16) anything below that is precocious and needs to be investigated, anything above that as well needs to be investigated.. we can't change physiology around to suit new age definition and our own whims it has to be evidence based science.. now just because someone has reached puberty doesn't mean they are ready for marriage, I have already listed the conditions for marriage above.

    yes women married younger their reproductive years were also cut short, people didn't spend all their life in school and women died in childbirth and children died in childhood.

    the laws now themselves differ from country to country and aren't a one size fits all what is considered statutory rape in England is age of consent in spain.
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    Age of Menarche
    Menarche usually occurs about two years after your breasts develop (thelarche) and between 4 and 6 months after the growth of your pubic and underarm hair. The age of menarche in most North American women is around 12 or 13, though your first period can come anytime between 9 and 16, depending upon your height, weight, and cultural background. Early menarche is occurring more and more - girls as young as 8 have been known to get their periods. This is referred to as premature menarche. Girls who haven't gotten their period by the age of 16 are described as experiencing primary amenorrhea. Sometimes external factors or complications may prevent your period from arriving when it should.

    http://www.epigee.org/menstruation/menarche.html
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