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    SelamAleikum waRahmetullah waBarakatuh,

    I've got some questions, which are about married.

    I know, that is a liability to married if you have money to supplying a family and if you couldn't "contol" your craving.

    So we know, that many muslims performing zina. Watches bad films etc. It is actually become a standard. What are the regulations?

    Let's say diffrent cases:

    Case I:

    A person peforms zina*, watch bad films and don't practice his religion. Should this person married? But whom? I think, the first step should be to advance his aqidah?! But if he doesn't married in that time, he will still performing that sin.

    Case II:

    A person peforms zina and watch bad films, too. But he is a very hard practicing muslim. What should that muslim do?

    Case III:

    A person performs zina, had don't money to supplying a family because he is a student or trainee but he try to be a good muslim, he works on his religion. What should that kind of muslim do?

    I'm just intressted, because zina is a very big problem, I see always brothers who are because of that problem far away from Allah. And I ask me, what kind of woman should such a muslim married? A very religious sister or a practicing sister. But if he choose the second woman, he would doen't have a chance to advance in religion. But if he married a godly sister, it would be perhaps not so nice for her.

    *I've read that, if you performing zina with yourself, that is a from of "normal" zina, too. But my text is generelly and zina should includes all that thnigs.

    Maybe you have some thnigs to say about that topic.

    SelamAleikum

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    Re: To get married...

    Walaikum-salam

    I know, that is a liability to married if you have money to supplying a family and if you couldn't "contol" your craving.
    Marriage is not a liability or only to fulfill your “cravings,” it’s a partnership between two people who, together, go through the normal struggles of life, adjoining right conduct and live in bliss when they follow the teachings of God.
    So we know, that many muslims performing zina. Watches bad films etc. It is actually become a standard. What are the regulations?
    Ya, we know people are doing zina, but let’s not call them “Muslims,” if they really were Muslims, we wouldn’t have the problem to begin with! Let’s not accept this foul behavior as a “standard.” Regulation is, it’s wrong! Surah Noor: 37, Verse 30: Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts; that is purer for them; surely Allah is aware of what they do.
    Surah Noor: Verse 24: On the day when their tongues and their hands and their feet shall bear witness against them as to what they did.
    Case I:
    A person peforms zina*, watch bad films and don't practice his religion. Should this person married? But whom? I think, the first step should be to advance his aqidah?! But if he doesn't married in that time, he will still performing that sin.

    Surah Noor, Verse 26: Bad women are for bad men and bad men are for bad women. Good women are for good men and good men are for good women.
    Surah Noor, Verse 33: And let those who do not find the means to marry keep chaste until Allah makes means from His grace.
    Case II:
    A person peforms zina and watch bad films, too. But he is a very hard practicing muslim. What should that muslim do

    Are you kidding - he’s not a Muslim at all, what do you mean “hard practicing Muslim!” What part of Quran is he “practicing” so “hard?” Here’s his solution, he should BECOME A HARD PRACTICING MUSLIM!!
    Case III:

    A person performs zina, had don't money to supplying a family because he is a student or trainee but he try to be a good muslim, he works on his religion. What should that kind of muslim do?


    He should do as the guy in case 1, become Muslim and have self-control.

    I'm just intressted, because zina is a very big problem, I see always brothers who are because of that problem far away from Allah. And I ask me, what kind of woman should such a muslim married? A very religious sister or a practicing sister. But if he choose the second woman, he would doen't have a chance to advance in religion. But if he married a godly sister, it would be perhaps not so nice for her.

    Surah Noor, Verse 26: Bad women are for bad men and bad men are for bad women. Good women are for good men and good men are for good women.


    i've read that, if you performing zina with yourself, that is a from of "normal" zina, too. But my text is generelly and zina should includes all that thnigs.
    Now you have levels of zina?! No zina is “normal.”
    Maybe you have some thnigs to say about that topic.
    To all Muslims: We have the most powerful religion on earth! How are we deluded from the practice of Islam? Look what’s happening to our Muslim countries and its people! Muslim people are begging for refuge around the globe – haven’t you asked where is God? Has He thrown His wrath on us because of our conduct? Have you seen the tortured empty faces of Muslims? What makes you think it won’t happen to you! Come to a common goal, unite to do good, divide when evil touches you if you can’t change it.
    This article was directed towards men by a man; so to them, you are the maintainers, the defenders of truth; and we are discussing zina?! The porn you are watching, thinking these are non-Muslims so it’s okay to do so. It’s wrong, instead of teaching them the right teachings, you, as Muslims are further abusing them – who will trust you! I’m not with you guys, and yes, I’m a Muslim man who has respect for myself and women in general. What’s wrong with you guys, instead of leading our people out of a mess, you guys are sitting around discussing levels of zina. Please, stop this nonsense, hold Quran readings instead and help one another to do good.

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    Selam Aleikum,

    Are you kidding - he’s not a Muslim at all, what do you mean “hard practicing Muslim!” What part of Quran is he “practicing” so “hard?” Here’s his solution, he should BECOME A HARD PRACTICING MUSLIM!!

    I mean he performs for example, let's say, masturbation but he's/she's try to pray his/her all supplications, he/she repent it after performing this sin . He/she tries do be a good muslim but shaitan comes always again. He/she try to get knowledge about Islam etc.

    Now you have levels of zina?! No zina is “normal.”

    Yes I fully agree with you. Butis it the same if you masturbation or have cohabitation with a men/woman?

    I think I should be a little more accurate. "Case II and III" performing not zina with a other person but masturbation. And Case II trying to be a good muslim.

    To 24:26 - What including that? For example: Person in "Case II" is performing this sin, should he/she married a men/woman who is performing this sin, too? Would it be not diffucult to find a person with this characteristics.

    Or are that aya (24:26) valid too if this persons change and became good muslims? Can he married in this case a other good muslim?

    It's very awkward to post question like that for me, but I think it's important to know thinks like that. I know many people who performs this things and the majority of people doeing that and it's normal for they. I know, that is not normal and a big sin.

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    Re: To get married...

    Wa Alaaykum As'salaam Wa Rahmatullaah Wa Barahkaatuh

    Thanks for your questions, and insha'Allaah I will try to answer to my best

    Quote Originally Posted by new2010 View Post
    SelamAleikum waRahmetullah waBarakatuh,

    I've got some questions, which are about married.

    I know, that is a liability to married if you have money to supplying a family and if you couldn't "contol" your craving. .
    Well, to marry there are many reasons, some of what you mentioned and also to please Allaah SWT. But i wouldnt put it as controlling 'cravings', but a little respecful such as protecting one from danger and doing what is best.

    Quote Originally Posted by new2010 View Post
    So we know, that many muslims performing zina. Watches bad films etc. It is actually become a standard. What are the regulations? .
    Well, not 'muslims' but people/humans who may be in a situation where they cannot control themselves, therefore they commit the wrong stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by new2010 View Post
    Let's say diffrent cases:

    Case I:

    A person peforms zina*, watch bad films and don't practice his religion. Should this person married? But whom? I think, the first step should be to advance his aqidah?! But if he doesn't married in that time, he will still performing that sin.
    Well, this person should be firstly be made aware of knowing that zina is something is that wrong, because we dont want the person being married and not realising that is wrong, it kills the whole purpose of marriage really. The person needs to be taught about his faith, the rights and the wrongs and even the punishments if falling into sin and repenting. And so if the person is ready to marry then they do so. But by your question if you mean, the person keeps committing the 'bad' and cant control themselves, then yes marriage is a way to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by new2010 View Post
    Case II:

    A person peforms zina and watch bad films, too. But he is a very hard practicing muslim. What should that muslim do?
    Well, as muslims we can all fall into sin even if were 'hard' practising as you put it, at the end of the day we are humans, the person should repent and realise his consequences. stop performing zina and stop watching bad films. The way out is remembering Allaah, fearing him, having hope in him and trusting him.

    Quote Originally Posted by new2010 View Post
    Case III:

    A person performs zina, had don't money to supplying a family because he is a student or trainee but he try to be a good muslim, he works on his religion. What should that kind of muslim do?

    I'm just intressted, because zina is a very big problem, I see always brothers who are because of that problem far away from Allah. And I ask me, what kind of woman should such a muslim married? A very religious sister or a practicing sister. But if he choose the second woman, he would doen't have a chance to advance in religion. But if he married a godly sister, it would be perhaps not so nice for her.
    First of all there is no such thing as 'godly' sister. The brother should continue continue trying to do good and forbid the evil.
    Indeed Zina is a big problem. The muslim can marry a practising muslim, but marrying the muslim doesnt mean it will stop him from commiting sin in life, to stop that we have to control our desires. But if the person wants to marry a practising sister, they have to sort themselves out and then continue to ask Allaah for repentance and never stop. We have to keep to ourselves our sin, we do not expose it to the world. So the brother shouldnt be telling the sister about his bad deeds, but the brother must continue repenting.


    Quote Originally Posted by new2010 View Post
    *I've read that, if you performing zina with yourself, that is a from of "normal" zina, too. But my text is generelly and zina should includes all that thnigs.

    Maybe you have some thnigs to say about that topic.

    SelamAleikum
    Perfoming zina with yourself is wrong, forbidden. dont believe everything you hear. It is permissable with your spouse.

    I hope i made sense and helped a little bit insha'Allaah.
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    "Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]


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