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How can we verify if someone has reverted for real?

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    How can we verify if someone has reverted for real? (OP)


    Salaams,

    Believing in Allah swt, the prophet Muhammed saaw and saying the Shahada makes a non believer a Muslim if it is genuine but how can we know if it's genuine? How do we know if the person who says it really means it and really believes it?
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    Re: How can we verify if someone has reverted for real?

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    Re: How can we verify if someone has reverted for real?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Insaanah View Post


    Just to clarify, that if the person who we think has reverted is someone with whom marriage might be considered, then generally the way to see, is to have that person in touch with those who can teach them Islam, and can help them. Then usually, people leave them to settle into the deen, and wait and observe them for a period. Some might wait a year or two, some might wait six months or so, by which time they will know if that person behaves like a Muslim, lives like a Muslim, prays, fasts etc. Only when they are completely satisfied, that that person is serious about Islam, has made all efforts and taken steps to learn, and practices, then is any next step taken.

    It is a very serious matter. There are instances of people having said the words of the shahaadah, and the other side thinks, good, they're Muslim, marriage takes place and actually, they only said it to get married, and end up with a "marriage" that is not Islamically valid and is a sin.

    There was a comment above about hiding good deeds. I'm not sure this applies when it comes to the fard, such as daily prayers, Ramadan fasts etc. And Allah knows best.
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    Re: How can we verify if someone has reverted for real?

    Wa alaikum salam,

    In regards to this, saying the shahadah requires the intention too. but one shouldn't stress themselves and say "what if my intentions are not genuine, what if Allah SWT did not accept my shahadah because of some doubts?" etc.

    I trust Allah SWT that He SWT has accepted the Shahadah. If I don't know whether the person is a Muslim, I say Allahu alam, and leave it to Allah SWT.

    And Allah SWT knows best.
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    Re: How can we verify if someone has reverted for real?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    Wa alaikum salam,

    In regards to this, saying the shahadah requires the intention too. but one shouldn't stress themselves and say "what if my intentions are not genuine, what if Allah SWT did not accept my shahadah because of some doubts?" etc.

    I trust Allah SWT that He SWT has accepted the Shahadah. If I don't know whether the person is a Muslim, I say Allahu alam, and leave it to Allah SWT.

    And Allah SWT knows best.
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    Re: How can we verify if someone has reverted for real?

    format_quote Originally Posted by BeTheChange View Post
    Walaikumasalaam ,

    In response to the question i suppose you can never be 100% certain.

    You can only use your experience, wisdom and knowledge.

    There have been reports where individuals have taken the role as an Imam in local villages for 10 years or so and then later the local villages discovered the imam was working undercover for the government. There have been many cases in the UK as well where Muslims have been jailed and imprisoned for openly declaring their love for jihaad to a 'revert' who was working undercover and then later used that evidence against them.

    Only Allah swt knows.

    May Allah swt help us make wise decisions Ameen.
    That's appalling! I don't even have words for how evil that is.
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    Re: How can we verify if someone has reverted for real?

    Keeping people safe from themselves is a full time job apparently..

    Read a book.

    ...it's probably better than the film.
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