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    As salaam Alaikum,

    My understanding is that we only obey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and his prophets as a Muslim and Muslima we are not allowed to obey anyone else. In fact, I understood from Islamic lecture you do not obey your parents but you listen to them and be respectful to them and do not say bad things or mean things to them and when they ask you to do something as long as it is not against the law of Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and doesn't harm you or others and it is for your benefit you do it. But other times you are allowed to object in certain things and you still have the right to have your own personality and be able to do what you want and you pay for the consequences of it. So why do we say a wife is to obey her husband? I am sorta confused in this. Since we agreed that obeying is exclusive only to Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and his prophets why do we say a wife is to obey her husband. I think the word obey should not be used in that context, she should listen to her husband yes and if what he ask her to do does not go against Allah's law and it does not harm herself or anyone, then yes she should do it but the word obey in itself should be exclusive to Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and his prophets.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    You're not going to respect someone by how they dress? Does that mean that you also judge men that way too? Respect is deserved of everyone my friend. So does that mean if youd seen me in my prehijab days you wouldnt respect me..?
    You'll laugh if she gets beaten up by a bunch of men? Im sorry but somethings quite not right here. Since when do clothes and language determine how we treat people? A big part of Islam is how we respect and treat others.
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    Re: My understanding as a human being you only obey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and hi

    @xboxisdead . I dont bash on people because of their gender. Iv never personally been taught that all men.are bad and i dont.hold that belief. Maybe some people believe it but i dont think theyd somehow teach jt at a university. You seem to have a real thing with women my friend.
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    Re: My understanding as a human being you only obey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and hi

    format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    You're not going to respect someone by how they dress? Does that mean that you also judge men that way too? Respect is deserved of everyone my friend. So does that mean if youd seen me in my prehijab days you wouldnt respect me..?

    Does that mean you respect hitler, murders, rapists, thieves, liars? Does that mean you respect the president of Egypt? Does that mean you respect Donald Trump? Does that mean you respect feminist? Does that mean you respect people who verbally abuse their spouses or children? Let me ask you a question, do you respect Pharaoh when he disbelieved in Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and then Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) drowned him in the ocean? Respect is something you need to work and earn it and you also need to work hard to keep it. You need to have good character, you need to put into society and make people respect you by your tongue and action. Yes, I do judge people in how they dress and that applies to both men and women. If I run a business and some guy comes to me with muhak hair, chest showing shirt and tattoos with earrings I will not hire him. This is old news in that people judge you by your looks. Yes, dress is as important as your character. If you go to a job interview with torn shoes and you smell and yellow teeth guaranteed you will not get hired. Same applies to both gender. Again it shows when I am targeting it to women there are billion excuses to defy what we logically apply to men by default. That is exhausting. Yes and yes and yes a trillion percent yes, people are judged by how they look, how they smell, their weight, their personality and everything. Sorry, I did not formulate these rules...this is called Sunnat al-qayum. This is the law that is put in here. Whether you take it or leave it is up to you.

    And yes I judge men equally the same as I judge women in fact 30 x more for men than women. If some guy he look like he is about to slit my throat but in fact he is a good husband and a good father and and and...and he prays 5 prayers but he look like he is about to slit my throat and he is coming my way...I am running...running in the other direction.

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    That is not only taught in University but also taught in media. Turn on any TV show you watch in Canada/USA and tell me what you see? Non-stop man bashing. Problem is..it is done so much we normalize it and believe that is what men are so we don't consider it man bashing at all. Is it not true in TVs men are portrait idiot, buffon, etc. Watch Rosan and Murphy Brown. Those are all great examples of man bashing. Just because where you live is not there it doesn't mean it is not happening.

    I will laugh if her mouth is what got her there. If she keeps pushing the man and assaulting him and he explodes and retaliate..yes I will laugh. Remember, the tongue is the most deadliest weapon on Earth much more than biological weapon and woman can out talk any man, so that means she can really slice a man or woman using her tongue and if she keeps pushing him and pushing with her tongue,shouting at him, insulting him, belittling him and he tries to move away from her and she comes at his fist to cause him to fight her and he explodes eventually...yes I will laugh at her. In fact, I will say..she deserved it. Better she get punished here than in the afterlife that is what I say.

    In answering your question, if you walk in the same cloth and style as the kufar and have semi hijab (by the way hijab is not defined just the hair. Hijab is defined on the entire body. I have seeing Hjiabi girls walking on the street in front of my eyes and they are Muslims but with super tight pants. I did not disrespect them in my thoughts at all even though I did not talk to them, but I felt sorry for them. Because they are the ones that is talked about in Ahadit where woman are wearing cloth but naked and they cannot smell the fragrance of Jannah and I felt really bad for them. The thought in my mind and heart was attacking the parents. They neglected their duties) I will not think of you as Muslim at first until I talk to you. Same if a man walks with a tattoo and have a cross on his chest but he is Muslim I will think of him as Kafir and Mushrik even though he prays five prayers and he is a sheikh. But how would I know if he is muslim when have cleaned shaven beard and wears a cross with earrings, how would i know that? Just because a woman walks with semi hijab and have tight pants and shows 50% of the hair does not mean it is not the same style of non-Muslim woman who walks in the street. How do I know you are Muslim or not without talking to you. I do not talk to strange woman at all. I do not look at stranger woman at all. If woman walks half naked I look the other away and ignore her. I have made it to age 38 and I have had not one single sexual lawsuit against me. Ones I feel there is an uncomfortable energy...I move the other way around. I also tend to avoid being with a woman in the elevator alone (in public places). I only make friends with other men of my age and on skype I only have my family and male friends.

    I like it that way and I prefer it that way. As for commenting any future wife will need to run away from me that is not a problem...no woman will ever have to do deal with me because I aint marrying or looking for one, so problem solves itself.
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    Re: My understanding as a human being you only obey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and hi

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Does that mean you respect hitler, murders, rapists, thieves, liars? Does that mean you respect the president of Egypt? Does that mean you respect Donald Trump? Does that mean you respect feminist? Does that mean you respect people who verbally abuse their spouses or children? Let me ask you a question, do you respect Pharaoh when he disbelieved in Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and then Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) drowned him in the ocean? Respect is something you need to work and earn it and you also need to work hard to keep it. You need to have good character, you need to put into society and make people respect you by your tongue and action. Yes, I do judge people in how they dress and that applies to both men and women. If I run a business and some guy comes to me with muhak hair, chest showing shirt and tattoos with earrings I will not hire him. This is old news in that people judge you by your looks. Yes, dress is as important as your character. If you go to a job interview with torn shoes and you smell and yellow teeth guaranteed you will not get hired. Same applies to both gender. Again it shows when I am targeting it to women there are billion excuses to defy what we logically apply to men by default. That is exhausting. Yes and yes and yes a trillion percent yes, people are judged by how they look, how they smell, their weight, their personality and everything. Sorry, I did not formulate these rules...this is called Sunnat al-qayum. This is the law that is put in here. Whether you take it or leave it is up to you.

    And yes I judge men equally the same as I judge women in fact 30 x more for men than women. If some guy he look like he is about to slit my throat but in fact he is a good husband and a good father and and and...and he prays 5 prayers but he look like he is about to slit my throat and he is coming my way...I am running...running in the other direction.
    @cinnamonrolls1

    That is not only taught in University but also taught in media. Turn on any TV show you watch in Canada/USA and tell me what you see? Non-stop man bashing. Problem is..it is done so much we normalize it and believe that is what men are so we don't consider it man bashing at all. Is it not true in TVs men are portrait idiot, buffon, etc. Watch Rosan and Murphy Brown. Those are all great examples of man bashing. Just because where you live is not there it doesn't mean it is not happening.

    I will laugh if her mouth is what got her there. If she keeps pushing the man and assaulting him and he explodes and retaliate..yes I will laugh. Remember, the tongue is the most deadliest weapon on Earth much more than biological weapon and woman can out talk any man, so that means she can really slice a man or woman using her tongue and if she keeps pushing him and pushing with her tongue,shouting at him, insulting him, belittling him and he tries to move away from her and she comes at his fist to cause him to fight her and he explodes eventually...yes I will laugh at her. In fact, I will say..she deserved it. Better she get punished here than in the afterlife that is what I say.
    I think theres a difference between respecting a "normal" person and a dictator or criminal etc. You didnt make it very clear you were talking about a woman being violent etc in which case fair enough i dont agree with violence from both genders but fair enough. I dont watch canadian and us tv so maybe im not seeing what you're saying but fine okay i get your point. I just think you're taking it too far.
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    Re: My understanding as a human being you only obey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and hi

    format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    I think theres a difference between respecting a "normal" person and a dictator or criminal etc. You didnt make it very clear you were talking about a woman being violent etc in which case fair enough i dont agree with violence from both genders but fair enough. I dont watch canadian and us tv so maybe im not seeing what you're saying but fine okay i get your point. I just think you're taking it too far.
    I dont wish to continue this but i heard your opinion you heard mines, lets call it a day
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    Re: My understanding as a human being you only obey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and hi

    format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    I dont wish to continue this but i heard your opinion you heard mines, lets call it a day
    Done! I want to call it a day myself It is exhausting for me anyways! I want to focus in Akhira really, this world is all an illusion anyways. A shadow. A combination of evil and good and prison for Muslims. So yeah...I may be 100% wrong and I admit it too but I am done too! Sorry about all this but yeah I am finished in this topic, whatever happens, really happens. All of this is written on the board 50,000 years ago before I was created anyways...
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    Re: My understanding as a human being you only obey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and hi

    we obey allah taala
    we fulfill the rights of allahs creation as commanded by allah taala
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    Re: My understanding as a human being you only obey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and hi

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Done! I want to call it a day myself It is exhausting for me anyways! I want to focus in Akhira really, this world is all an illusion anyways. A shadow. A combination of evil and good and prison for Muslims. So yeah...I may be 100% wrong and I admit it too but I am done too! Sorry about all this but yeah I am finished in this topic, whatever happens, really happens. All of this is written on the board 50,000 years ago before I was created anyways...
    Haha definately! I want to apologise for my arrogance and defensiveness brother. I totallyyy get your point now akhi, please forgive me if i caused any offence.
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