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    The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

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    About ten years ago, I was standing in my son's junior school classroom. The teacher had stuck up on the wall the best essays on the topic: 'How I Spent Last Weekend.' One caught my attention.

    Not for this little boy a visit to the zoo or the excitement of a football game. Instead, he had chronicled a weekend's battle between his divorcing parents.

    'Mum calls dad names on the phone,' he had written in his laborious handwriting. 'We had cake for tea. My sister and I cry.' The teacher caught my eye. She had put up that story on purpose.

    'I want the parents to see what divorce they are doing to their children. They should be ashamed of themselves,' she said.

    My son recently bumped into that little boy. A decade on, he is 18, has dropped out of school and is on drugs.

    Sir Nicholas Wall, the President of the Family Division of the High Court, agrees that something has to be done. He has accused separating couples, especially those from the middle classes, of using their children as 'both the battlefield and the ammunition' to try to score points in their personal disputes.

    'There is nothing worse, for most children, than for their parents to denigrate each other,' said the country's most senior family court judge. 'The child's sense of self-worth can be irredeemably damaged.'

    Six years ago, my husband and I divorced. It came as a great shock. But we were all too aware our children were just becoming adolescents - and that adolescence is perilous enough without warring parents.

    We tried, not always successfully on my part, never to criticise each other in front of the children. Very occasionally, I even managed to emphasise his good points (of which there are many) - it was quite hard when at the time all I wanted to do was murder him.

    A female friend was shocked. 'Why aren't you using the children against him?' she asked. 'I would.'


    Her reaction is not unusual. The battlefields Sir Nicholas Wall describes are too often of the wife's choosing. This is because most divorces are initiated by women due to their husband's infidelity, as the fatherhood research body Fathers Direct points out.

    These women are hurt and they want to get their own back through the children, money or both. They are determined the husband is as much divorced from his children as his wife.

    One wealthy man I know finds himself, despite his riches, at the beck and call of his former wife.

    'How can my wife hurt me? How could she bring me to my knees?' he asks. 'Through my children.'

    The strategy is very successful. This otherwise powerful man submits to every capricious demand.

    'With just two hours' notice, I had to cancel an important meeting and take them to the dentist,' he said. If he refused, his wife said, he would not see them for a month.

    An advertising director found himself equally powerless when his wife suddenly moved from London to the Midlands with their two sons.

    'She did not tell me. One day she just stopped answering the phone. Until then I had been seeing my sons every weekend,' he says.

    By the time the case reached court, the sons were settled in a new school. The judge admitted that what the woman had done was illegal, but because it was in the best interests of the children to be with their mother, he did nothing.

    'She had got away with effectively kidnapping my children,' said the father. His relationship with his sons has all but broken down. Their new home is too far for them to come to London. When he goes to see them, he has to stay in a hotel.

    'The children get bored in an hour or two,' he says. 'They have their friends and their sports, which they would rather do instead.'

    He tells me he finds the situation 'so goddamn painful. I try to play the role of a father - but how can I when I have been deliberately moved to the periphery of their lives?'

    The situation leaves many men I have interviewed distraught. They describe the loss of their children as 'an emotional amputation' or 'a living bereavement'.

    It is no wonder that within two years of divorce, half of fathers lose contact with their children.

    As one man said sadly, divorce 'leaves many fathers on the edge of a bloody great abyss. Many fall off and are never seen again'.

    Douglas Alexiou, one of London's pre-eminent family lawyers, agrees that the wife holds all the cards in a divorce case.

    'Court order after court order is served. The wife claims the children are ill or just do not want to see their father,' he says.

    'There is very little a court can do if a mother has poisoned the minds of her children against the father. There is no sanction against the mother apart from a jail term - and no court will do that.

    'Perhaps one day a judge will be bold enough to jail a mother and finally set an example.'

    In all this there is only one real victim - the children. If one of those wives was handed an axe and ordered to hack off a limb of her child, she would be appalled. Yet so many women are happy, even gleeful, to commit the equivalent emotional amputation on their children by depriving them of their father.

    U.S. author Kathleen Parker in her excellent book Save The Males points out that in depriving a child of their father, 'we reduce a child's chance of a successful and happy life.

    'Growing up without a father is the most reliable indicator of poverty and all the familiar social pathologies affecting children, including drug abuse, truancy, delinquency and sexual promiscuity.'

    But this misery is not only the fault of the parents. The family court system is adversarial and encourages couples to fight, says Nadine O'Connor, campaign manager at the lobby group Fathers4Justice.

    And change, she says, will be a long time in coming - until lawyers stop making their own killing from warring parents, children will continue to be used as weapons.

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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    Heartbreaking. Hot on equal rights but not when it comes to father's rights in raising or even seeing their own children. Both parents are equally needed. Parents who really care about thier children will put they bitter feelings aside and do best for thier children.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by BeTheChange View Post
    Heartbreaking. Hot on equal rights but not when it comes to father's rights in raising or even seeing their own children. Both parents are equally needed. Parents who really care about thier children will put they bitter feelings aside and do best for thier children.
    Hmm. Insha'Allah next year, me and my brother we are going to start the process of sponsoring a child to live with me I will be a guardian to that child and raise him Insha'Allah to be a good Muslim and strong man I will make my own family and I will gift him with maximum what Islam tells me I am allowed to give him .

    I think there are too many children in the world already and I believe more men should really do it for Allah's pleasure alone and sponsor children and take care of them and give them love where they believe no one loves them. The reward of sponsoring a child is HUGE....HUUGE. In fact from the way I understood the ahadith that sponsoring a child for a man is more rewarding than having his own children and taking care of it. I could be wrong. But what i understood that fathers are just the door of paradise but sponsoring a child every hair of that child IS ENORMOURSE reward when you just put hand on his head with intend of compassion and love. And in additional the prophet put his two fingers like that indicating the entrance of paradise when sponsoring a child.

    Personally I am content if fatherhood is destroyed or women toke over the role of fathers, it does not hurt me...it is between her and Allah alone and she will get what her intention and action in the afterlife...she is only hurting herself and mostly her children...so pfft it is her child anyways she can do with them whatever she wants up and including torturing them and slaughtering them and selling them for prostitution. She is not hurting me . More men should stop cowering down on their knees under the terrorism of women....and just go on their away and sponsor children and raise them yourself. Trust me..there is no guarantee your own child will love you and the sponsored child will be the love of your heart
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Hmm. Insha'Allah next year, me and my brother we are going to start the process of sponsoring a child to live with me I will be a guardian to that child and raise him Insha'Allah to be a good Muslim and strong man I will make my own family and I will gift him with maximum what Islam tells me I am allowed to give him .I think there are too many children in the world already and I believe more men should really do it for Allah's pleasure alone and sponsor children and take care of them and give them love where they believe no one loves them. The reward of sponsoring a child is HUGE....HUUGE. In fact from the way I understood the ahadith that sponsoring a child for a man is more rewarding than having his own children and taking care of it. I could be wrong. But what i understood that fathers are just the door of paradise but sponsoring a child every hair of that child IS ENORMOURSE reward when you just put hand on his head with intend of compassion and love. And in additional the prophet put his two fingers like that indicating the entrance of paradise when sponsoring a child. Personally I am content if fatherhood is destroyed or women toke over the role of fathers, it does not hurt me...it is between her and Allah alone and she will get what her intention and action in the afterlife...she is only hurting herself and mostly her children...so pfft it is her child anyways she can do with them whatever she wants up and including torturing them and slaughtering them and selling them for prostitution. She is not hurting me . More men should stop cowering down on their knees under the terrorism of women....and just go on their away and sponsor children and raise them yourself. Trust me..there is no guarantee your own child will love you and the sponsored child will be the love of your heart
    Bro, I appreciate your idea of adopting a child but marriage is the best option if your mother or brother or any other relative could find you a good life partner. Don't deprive yourself of the sunnah of prophet
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    Bro, I appreciate your idea of adopting a child but marriage is the best option if your mother or brother or any other relative could find you a good life partner. Don't deprive yourself of the sunnah of prophet
    Why? I have family and I do not need marriage to make a family And I AM SO HAPPY been single (not alone) and if I have a sponsored child and be his legal guardian I will be so busy with taking care of him, preparing his food, taking him to school, listening to his troubles and helping him, spending time teaching him and making sure he does good in school, we go out and be friends as well, play sports, play games and talk. I will be teaching him Islam, stories of the prophets, making sure he is in Islamic school and learning Qura'an...I will not be even thinking of marriage or worrying to have my own kids. I will be his guardian and if I get dua from him when I reach old age and he grows to a man...IT WOULD HAVE BEEN the best investment in my life. I am not egocentric wanting to have my own kids. There is no guarantee that my own kids even want anything to do with me or they will simply side with the mother against me or they will simply just follow their mother and leave me alone...or be like that man who had so many kids and all of them thrown him to the old home and not one of them even visited him in his grave. If you notice in the youtube comments they all assumed the father is the fault for the behavior of the children...because fatherhood and husband are 10th world citizen. I am not doing it to getting appraisal mind you or get a pad on my back...but I also know that been a guardian to a sponsored kid is the same as been married and having your own kids...but one you have less problem than the other...and one you get more reward doing it.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

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    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Why? I have family and I do not need marriage to make a family And I AM SO HAPPY been single (not alone) and if I have a sponsored child and be his legal guardian I will be so busy with taking care of him, preparing his food, taking him to school, listening to his troubles and helping him, spending time teaching him and making sure he does good in school, we go out and be friends as well, play sports, play games and talk. I will be teaching him Islam, stories of the prophets, making sure he is in Islamic school and learning Qura'an...I will not be even thinking of marriage or worrying to have my own kids. I will be his guardian and if I get dua from him when I reach old age and he grows to a man...IT WOULD HAVE BEEN the best investment in my life. I am not egocentric wanting to have my own kids. There is no guarantee that my own kids even want anything to do with me or they will simply side with the mother against me or they will simply just follow their mother and leave me alone...or be like that man who had so many kids and all of them thrown him to the old home and not one of them even visited him in his grave. If you notice in the youtube comments they all assumed the father is the fault for the behavior of the children...because fatherhood and husband are 10th world citizen. I am not doing it to getting appraisal mind you or get a pad on my back...but I also know that been a guardian to a sponsored kid is the same as been married and having your own kids...but one you have less problem than the other...and one you get more reward doing it.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by Junon View Post
    Salaam



    Oh dear.



    Come on Xbox bro you've got to get out of this phase.
    You are aware that one of the best Muslim men in the time of the prophet peace be upon where the BRIGHTEST OF NOOR emanating from him as he crosses the bridge in blink of the eye to enter paradise is never married, never have children and even never sponsored one either. I can never be like him...BUT AT LEAST I can sponsor a child to help raise into a great person. Who knows...subhanaAllah...this may be the reason why I will enter paradise.

    Remember...having to raise a child on your own makes you more stronger and handle responsibility better and turn you EVEN MORE MATURER than having to depend on another person to do it for you. How many men leave 80% of the child rearing on their wives? I am taking the full responsibility on my own....I am taking the full burden on my own. I have to feed him, check for his health, remember things...I will be forced to grow up in ways I cannot even fathom and in some cases it scares me.......and the reward for taking care of an orphan in the afterlife is huge. I am surprised so many men don't do it when so many children are left to be beaten, killed, molested, abused and felt unloved. Everyone is obsessed to having their DNA in this world. I am just saying...marriage is not everything and having a wife is not always the best thing.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Why? I have family and I do not need marriage to make a family And I AM SO HAPPY been single (not alone) and if I have a sponsored child and be his legal guardian I will be so busy with taking care of him, preparing his food, taking him to school, listening to his troubles and helping him, spending time teaching him and making sure he does good in school, we go out and be friends as well, play sports, play games and talk. I will be teaching him Islam, stories of the prophets, making sure he is in Islamic school and learning Qura'an...I will not be even thinking of marriage or worrying to have my own kids. I will be his guardian and if I get dua from him when I reach old age and he grows to a man...IT WOULD HAVE BEEN the best investment in my life. I am not egocentric wanting to have my own kids. There is no guarantee that my own kids even want anything to do with me or they will simply side with the mother against me or they will simply just follow their mother and leave me alone...or be like that man who had so many kids and all of them thrown him to the old home and not one of them even visited him in his grave. If you notice in the youtube comments they all assumed the father is the fault for the behavior of the children...because fatherhood and husband are 10th world citizen. I am not doing it to getting appraisal mind you or get a pad on my back...but I also know that been a guardian to a sponsored kid is the same as been married and having your own kids...but one you have less problem than the other...and one you get more reward doing it.
    How can a MAN live without a WOMAN......?

    But......

    Sorry to ask you.........
    Are you......?
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    How can a MAN live without a WOMAN......?

    But......

    Sorry to ask you.........
    Are you......?
    Why not go the circus and find me with the other freak of natures out there ! And Yes I am a man p and I can live without a woman. I do not need a creation of Allah...I NEED ALLAH! I ONLY NEED ALLAH and he is not a woman and he is not a man...WITHOUT him I would not even be breathing...without him I would not even be able to sleep. Without him I would not even be able to laugh. I NEED ALLAH and I cannot live without him.

    That is better than saying I cannot live without a WOMAN. No brother....I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT ALLAH! I need Allah! Only he deserves to be worshiped and if Allah does not give me strength I can have 50 women on my head and I will still live as if I have not had one woman in my life. it is Allah who instill tranquility in my heart and soul and not his creation.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Why not go the circus and find me with the other freak of natures out there ! And Yes I am a man p and I can live without a woman. I do not need a creation of Allah...I NEED ALLAH! I ONLY NEED ALLAH and he is not a woman and he is not a man...WITHOUT him I would not even be breathing...without him I would not even be able to sleep. Without him I would not even be able to laugh. I NEED ALLAH and I cannot live without him.

    That is better than saying I cannot live without a WOMAN. No brother....I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT ALLAH! I need Allah! Only he deserves to be worshiped and if Allah does not give me strength I can have 50 women on my head and I will still live as if I have not had one woman in my life. it is Allah who instill tranquility in my heart and soul and not his creation.

    It was narrated from Aishah that:
    the Messenger of Allah said: “Marriage is part of my sunnah, and whoever does not follow my sunnah has nothing to do with me. Get married, for I will boast of your great numbers before the nations. Whoever has the means, let him get married, and whoever does not, then he should fast for it will diminish his desire.”
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    English reference: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1846
    Arabic reference: Book 9, Hadith 1919
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    It was narrated from Aishah that:
    the Messenger of Allah said: “Marriage is part of my sunnah, and whoever does not follow my sunnah has nothing to do with me. Get married, for I will boast of your great numbers before the nations. Whoever has the means, let him get married, and whoever does not, then he should fast for it will diminish his desire.”
    حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ الأَزْهَرِ، حَدَّثَنَا آدَمُ، حَدَّثَنَا عِيسَى بْنُ مَيْمُونٍ، عَنِ الْقَاسِمِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏"‏ النِّكَاحُ مِنْ سُنَّتِي فَمَنْ لَمْ يَعْمَلْ بِسُنَّتِي فَلَيْسَ مِنِّي وَتَزَوَّجُوا فَإِنِّي مُكَاثِرٌ بِكُمُ الأُمَمَ وَمَنْ كَانَ ذَا طَوْلٍ فَلْيَنْكِحْ وَمَنْ لَمْ يَجِدْ فَعَلَيْهِ بِالصِّيَامِ فَإِنَّ الصَّوْمَ لَهُ وِجَاءٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
    Grade:Hasan, Ibn Majah
    English reference: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1846
    Arabic reference: Book 9, Hadith 1919
    We need to fix our marriage system first and we need to return back to the proper marriage the way of sahaba is been done AND WE NEED NOT CROSS boundaries and exceed the limits and WIVES need to know their rights and the rights of their spouse and HUSBANDS need to know their rights and the right of their spouse and neither of them exceed the limit and CHILDREN should never be used as weapons and both parents rights NEED TO BE EQUALLY protected and taken seriously by society and by the law AAAAND....gender roles need to be returned correctly in the way that is written in Qura'an and Sunnah ...before we push for marriage again. You do not push for marriage in a place where fitna, disaster, chaos, violence and exploitation is the norm. If marriage will cause you to distance yourself from Allah or cause you to go through trails that could destroy your afterlife because you cannot handle the trail and hardship and war and difficult and challenges (WHICH GOES COMPLETELY OPPOSITE OF WHAT MARRIAGE IS THAT IS WRITTEN IN QURA'AN THAT IT SHOULD BE) then don't do it. Your akhira is more important than marriage. Your deen is more important than any marriage or any wife. NO woman on Earth will protect you from the hellfire or Allah's punishment.

    You don't enter paradise through women. No woman on Earth will intercede between you and Allah and no woman..let alone any of Allah's creation...can over talk Allah or talk their way out of HELLFIRE by sounding convincing or talk on your behalf. AND THE ONLY MAN ON EARTH WHO could intercede is the prophet peace be upon him and he only could do that BECAUSE Allah HIMSELF willed for that to happen! Just understand that! So if you want to promote marriage...you have to fix the problem first and teach society HOW MARRIAGE SHOULD BE properly done against feminism, against political correctness and against the Western style world or any modern world. Do I believe in marriage? YES I DO! But getting married may mean in the future could potential be my destruction then I would be a fool to enter it. I have no energy of the crap that modern people deal with in marriage nowadays.....I don't have it in me. I can't do it. Sorry. I discovered I have lived 39 years of my life without a female and I find somehow that is a strength given to me by Allah (Subhanahu Wa talaa) and I am thankful for it.....and I have a very quiet and peaceful life...I have no desire for drama.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    That is better than saying I cannot live without a WOMAN. No brother....I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT ALLAH! I need Allah! Only he deserves to be worshiped and if Allah does not give me strength
    Brother, I do understand you had bad experience in life. However, no one ever suggested that a woman is a replacement for Allah. I know that me and many of the other sisters here have great virtues and qualities, but not that one!!! And anyone who believes so, needs to reexamine their beliefs quickly!!

    Jokes apart, the prophet made it clear that men and woman are made to be companions to one another. We are 2 sides of the same coin and Allah in his wisdom made it so that we were different but yet completing one another.

    Naturally, some women can be very cruel and try to exploit situations. Just like some men can.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mandy View Post
    Brother, I do understand you had bad experience in life. However, no one ever suggested that a woman is a replacement for Allah. I know that me and many of the other sisters here have great virtues and qualities, but not that one!!! And anyone who believes so, needs to reexamine their beliefs quickly!!

    Jokes apart, the prophet made it clear that men and woman are made to be companions to one another. We are 2 sides of the same coin and Allah in his wisdom made it so that we were different but yet completing one another.

    Naturally, some women can be very cruel and try to exploit situations. Just like some men can.
    I just hate it when I hear the way men talk as if they are literally worshipping women instead of worshipping Allah. They say the most beautiful thing in the world is women and the most majestic thing is a woman...WATCH IT IN TV and cartoons and movies...to men..women is their all and end all and I am like..............STOP that is shirk. Be Careful....be careful....be careful....be careful.....you are so close to prostrating to a woman and glorifying her and worshipping her. I hear men saying that I cannot live without women..I will die without women and I am like...wait hold on....you can live with associating partners with Allah and neglecting your prayer and lacking in glorifying Allah AND IT IS HE WHO CREATED YOU, SHAPED YOU, IT IS HE WHO GAVE YOU A GENDER AND IT is Allah who deserves to be glorified and worshipped and only him. I think as Muslims we are doing so many shirks without knowing it. We have to be careful.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    I just hate it when I hear the way men talk as if they are literally worshipping women instead of worshipping Allah. They say the most beautiful thing in the world is women and the most majestic thing is a woman...WATCH IT IN TV and cartoons and movies...to men..women is their all and end all and I am like..............STOP that is shirk. Be Careful....be careful....be careful....be careful.....you are so close to prostrating to a woman and glorifying her and worshipping her. I hear men saying that I cannot live without women..I will die without women and I am like...wait hold on....you can live with associating partners with Allah and neglecting your prayer and lacking in glorifying Allah AND IT IS HE WHO CREATED YOU, SHAPED YOU, IT IS HE WHO GAVE YOU A GENDER AND IT is Allah who deserves to be glorified and worshipped and only him. I think as Muslims we are doing so many shirks without knowing it. We have to be careful.
    Worshipping women is a new cult.

    Isn't it ...?

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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    Worshipping women is a new cult.

    Isn't it ...?

    Ahaha...oh yeah. don't laugh. It actually does happen.Even shiekh and learned scholar tell you the many of shirk people do, worshiping jesus, worshiping the sun, some worship mar or jupiter the planets, other worshp the stars by making wishes to them and hoping the stars will reply to their wishes or prayers, others worship santa clause and others actually worship women. There are lots of women call themselves goddess...it is even mentioned in the qura'an how people worship Gods and Goddesses. You will find lots of Goddesses in video games and old tribes. It is there. I just don't want any brother to fall in the wrong direction without knowing it.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    I got a divorce my husband blamed me because my religion wasn't correct
    Even though I'm Muslim
    I loved my husband a lot but he divorced me....
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Ahaha...oh yeah. don't laugh. It actually does happen.Even shiekh and learned scholar tell you the many of shirk people do, worshiping jesus, worshiping the sun, some worship mar or jupiter the planets, other worshp the stars by making wishes to them and hoping the stars will reply to their wishes or prayers, others worship santa clause and others actually worship women. There are lots of women call themselves goddess...it is even mentioned in the qura'an how people worship Gods and Goddesses. You will find lots of Goddesses in video games and old tribes. It is there. I just don't want any brother to fall in the wrong direction without knowing it.
    according to their (e.g. Hindu) mythology Goddesses weren't worshipped by their husbands but by others... And here husbands are worshipping their wives.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    How can a MAN live without a WOMAN......?

    But......

    Sorry to ask you.........
    Are you......?
    No, he is not gay.

    Gays are not attracted to women, but they do not hate women in general. Even some gays prefer to befriend with women rather than with men. Asexual men are not attracted to women too, but they are not anti women.

    The anti-women attitude like that occurs only among heterosexual men, with various level, depend on the level of trauma that they have experienced, or level of indoctrination that they received (Men like this tend to indoctrinate their anti-women view toward the other, especially toward younger male/boys).

    As heterosexual those men actually still have desire on woman. But the trauma or indoctrination makes them afraid of being attracted to a woman. Afraid to be rejected if they fall in love, afraid to be cheated by a women, afraid to be abandoned by a woman if they already in relationship. So they develop "hating the women" attitude in their minds to prevent them attracted to a woman.

    The anti-women view like this actually quite common occur among men, especially teen boys and young adults. But mostly only in low level that can easily be faded after those men begin to more active in social relationship that makes them meet women who treat them kindly and change their view on women.
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    Re: The cruelty of women who use children as weapons in divorce

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    No, he is not gay.Gays are not attracted to women, but they do not hate women in general. Even some gays prefer to befriend with women rather than with men. Asexual men are not attracted to women too, but they are not anti women. The anti-women attitude like that occurs only among heterosexual men, with various level, depend on the level of trauma that they have experienced, or level of indoctrination that they received (Men like this tend to indoctrinate their anti-women view toward the other, especially toward younger male/boys). As heterosexual those men actually still have desire on woman. But the trauma or indoctrination makes them afraid of being attracted to a woman. Afraid to be rejected if they fall in love, afraid to be cheated by a women, afraid to be abandoned by a woman if they already in relationship. So they develop "hating the women" attitude in their minds to prevent them attracted to a woman.The anti-women view like this actually quite common occur among men, especially teen boys and young adults. But mostly only in low level that can easily be faded after those men begin to more active in social relationship that makes them meet women who treat them kindly and change their view on women .
    the brother is not in his teens, but still lingering.........
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