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    Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast (OP)


    http://www.ittefaq.com.bd/national/3...A6%BE%E0%A6%B0

    (Translation by me)

    Important points:

    - Divorced increased by twice, seperation by three times in last 10 years
    - 80% of divorces now are from women, whereas just 10 years ago 75% of divorces were from men.
    - Experts say increased female income, social status and independence behind divorce rate rise
    - Furthermore, females tend to be more attached to their professional life than marriage life
    - Experts further say, foreign culture (they mean Western culture) has increased adultery and wanting other "desires" (not specified here) which has lead to divorces/
    - Futhermore, social media also is said to play a part

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    Okay Taliban, I'm sold out to their ideology. I now fully agree with their view on women, they were right all along.

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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    Rather than think to divorce your wife, why don't you try to understand her?. Understand a woman actually is not difficult, as long as you try to understand her by your heart. Throw away all prejudices toward her from your mind, and try to put yourself in her shoes. Imagine if you were her, what would you feel?.
    Why do you assume I have not tried to understand her? Why do you assume I am the one divorcing her? Also, most fundamentally, who do you assume that what works for you in your marriage would work for every married man? I could answer you, but I feel like I am wasting my time if you expect the discussion to be based on premises that I don't recognize as true in the first place.
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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

    Falsehood and deception buildsl barriers, and barriers are often symptoms of caution or straightforward mistrust, once trust in what a person says is lost there are constant alarm bells and continual evaluation of words which are difficult to take at face value, the strong bond weakens, and if the situation continues to deteriorate - uncertainty, frustration, and a will to break free of the negative cycle ensues, and divorce is usually the best option if positive strides cannot be made.

    I believe that the divorce problem stems from the secularist tv attitude which (on behalf of the usury system which pushes abortion, condoms, and birth control pills at children whilst beautifying fornication and adultery) portrays each individual as a single unit government asset (which tends to keep market consumption, production, and money circulation high) - and not as part of a family unit answerable or accountable to each other. Once family unity and support is broken, taxability and policing become easy - especially given the constantly increasing government debts which are basically T.O.Us (they owe yous) payable by future generations.

    There is a plan of shaytaan working against humanity in the background, and there are prominent bankers, politicians, and business tycoons who bow to and directively serve shaytaan after having sold their souls and aakhirah for luxury in dunya, and their plans work in tandem.
    Some of the vile and nasty sacrifices they carry out to seal their soul selling pacts and to keep them running (eg. the child burning ritual at bohemian grove and the multiple babylonian voodoo rituals (dolls are just for show) with hebrew chants at the church of satan are an indication of how bad it could be getting.

    Henry kissinger's population control national memorandum 200, it's official sealing the following year, and its forced implementation the year after in india and surrounding countries by the "new and independent" governments of indira and sanjay gandhi (of the freemasonic nehru gandh east india company front family) are other indicators of where this usury system is heading.

    Families encourage children, and in turn encourage growing together under mutual UNDERSTANDING. Population, and mutual understanding in absence of secular government control are black and grey areas for usurers.... there is a pattern indicating a conspiracy and plan, rolling eyes or casually letting it fly is for morons are not solutions.
    Let us wake up.


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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

    Quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    I am also bored of that male dominated view of modern family issues. Men are responsible of the divorces as much as women. Stop blaming "the other" each time and try to see our own faults. Here in Turkey the wife murders by husbands skyrocketed also. These psychopats kill their wives when they try to divorce. Would you not divorce a man with such a mentality?
    I assume you've heard of the fact that feminists in Taksim were protesting against Azan on international crazy feminist day?

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    Yes I heard it. Its disrespectful ofcourse but its their mistake. Still millions of women are abused by men all across the globe. You cannot connect the faults of some people with the legitimacy of a worldwide abuse.

    Also I think there might be a political motive behind that. Erdoğan insisted to build that new Mosque in Taksim from which the azan comes despite people opposed it as the locals thought there was no need for a new Mosque in taksim. So their protest was against Erdoğan and his oppresive politics for the women as general more than the azan’s itself, I am guessing.
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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

    Quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    Yes I heard it. Its disrespectful ofcourse but its their mistake. Still millions of women are abused by men all across the globe. You cannot connect the faults of some people with the legitimacy of a worldwide abuse.

    Also I think there might be a political motive behind that. Erdoğan insisted to build that new Mosque in Taksim from which the azan comes despite people opposed it as the locals thought there was no need for a new Mosque in taksim. So their protest was against Erdoğan and his oppresive politics for the women as general more than the azan’s itself, I am guessing.
    I have seen a few selection of tweets were feminist/lgbt types said they were protesting against the Azan. And I saw the video myself, it sounded like they got louder during the Azan. Also what oppressive policy? His bill against abortion or telling feminists to stop bringing illegitimate children?

    On the otherhand, I am thankful. Next time, I see some fool talking about "islamic" feminism, I'll just show them the video. Everything has a silver lining.
    Last edited by CuriousonTruth; 03-10-2019 at 05:38 PM.

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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    I have seen a few selection of tweets were feminist/lgbt types said they were protesting against the Azan. And I saw the video myself, it sounded like they got louder during the Azan. Also what oppressive policy? His bill against abortion or telling feminists to stop bringing illegitimate children?

    On the otherhand, I am thankful. Next time, I see some fool talking about "islamic" feminism, I'll just show them the video. Everything has a silver lining.
    What are you trying to say? I am lost at the moment bro..
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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

    Quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Let us be honest....the way the world work now we have made full mockery of Allah's law...taken his law and stepped on it...that is what we have done..and in additional removed any authoritative and rights of husbands that Allah have given them which further confirms my believe that when it comes to men's right even if it comes from Allah we refuse to believe in it and object on it but when it comes to women right we submit and happy with it. This is the perverted..double standard....and willing to go to Jahnam just because Allah created male which is different than female and have given him different rights is why I don't mind if a giant ball from the sky was to fall in our head and wipe us all. You have problem with Allah creating the male sex..please go to him and object. I doubt you will go that far.


    I AM THANKFUL I am not married. I am thankful I do not have children.
    The secular courts don't double up as sharia courts regarding all matters, but in certain basic matters such as divorce they'd adhere to sharia requirements

    It's the same regarding marriage; Bangladesh doesn't run on sharia law as such , but registering a marriage requires the required sharia witnesses and wali and specification of mahr
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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

    Quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz View Post
    The secular courts don't double up as sharia courts regarding all matters, but in certain basic matters such as divorce they'd adhere to sharia requirements

    It's the same regarding marriage; Bangladesh doesn't run on sharia law as such , but registering a marriage requires the required sharia witnesses and wali and specification of mahr
    Let us be blunt here. Any person male or female..right at age of puberty and up to senior age who do not believe the sovereignty belongs exclusively to Allah (Subhnahu Wa Talaa) is a mushrik, a disbeliever and this dunaya is their paradise and hellfire is their afterlife abode. Anyone who says they believe sovereignty belongs to Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) but their acts goes against their believe because in their heart they prefer man-made law over Allah's law goes under the same category as the first one. That person is a mushrik, a disbeliever whether that person is male or female and whether the age of that person is at puberty age or senior age and if that person dies in that state...hellfire is their abode.

    Any country who live in secular system is a mushrik. Any civilian who obey the secular court because they love it or because they agree with it or because it favors them or because they throw the excuse that they are weak and they have no place to go when in fact the Earth is big enough for you to go...or who is attached to dunaya and will not bother to discomfort their pillow and seek to live in a mountain (if they must) to protect their deen and obey the secular court is a mushrik and kafir. It is that simple. The real question is how many of us are in danger of entering hellfire and how many of us even bother to do something about it. I believe in Allah's law...I do not believe in secular country...and if I have any system dealing I will do with it in a Muslim court that obeys Allah law 100% even if I live in secular country such as Canada. I refuse to solve any matter in Canadian court...I will form a rally if I must...any situation whether is stealing or worse..murder I only deal it with it in Islamic court in Canada. Divorce issues and family issues I will only deal in Islamic court even if it is in Canada (land or location matters not). It does not matter where I live...which soil my feet step on it...what matters is I obey Allah's law 100%. THAT MEANS dress code does not change if you live in Canada or Hong Kong. I wear my hijab (protect my awar) regardless of where I live. I don't do ribaa if I can avoid it. I avoid committing Zina. Family matters done in Islamic fashion that please Allah. It is that simple.

    You are saying a country that is secular and obey certain law of Allah and obeys man-made law in other matters those leaders who do this are not Muslim. They are Mushrik. Any leader will fight for his deen and demand that 100% law is applied from Qura'an and Sunnah and not man-made law. Any true 100% Muslim country will throw the idea of secular down the gutter and will only obey Allah and his messenger and apply only Allah's law.

    "Bangladesh doesn't run on sharia law as such" is no different than Canada/USA. There are Muslim people there but that country is a non-Muslim country. There are Muslim and non-Muslim people living there but I refuse to believe that Bangladesh is a Muslim country. Making Bangladesh worse than Canada. At least Canada is more advanced in dunaya affairs over Bangladesh. Any country that is not Muslim country is inferior to 1st world country that is not a Muslim country. Any country becomes superior over Canada/USA only because it is a Muslim country that obeys Allah's law 100%....only then Allah will make that country shine over the rest of the Earth. It is that simple.

    "The secular courts don't double up as sharia courts regarding all matters, but in certain basic matters such as divorce they'd adhere to sharia requirements" <-- Can you explain it? I am confused.

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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    I have seen a few selection of tweets were feminist/lgbt types said they were protesting against the Azan. And I saw the video myself, it sounded like they got louder during the Azan. Also what oppressive policy? His bill against abortion or telling feminists to stop bringing illegitimate children?

    On the otherhand, I am thankful. Next time, I see some fool talking about "islamic" feminism, I'll just show them the video. Everything has a silver lining.
    The feminist society leaders who organized the protest confirmed that the loud was to protest against the police barricade not for the Azan. The news reporter who made the first news Süleyman Özışık anounced that he falsified the readers and asked forgiveness.

    I watched a few videos in YouTube and in none of them it is understood that they specifically protested the Azan. Can you share the video where they get louder with Azan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    The feminist society leaders who organized the protest confirmed that the loud was to protest against the police barricade not for the Azan. The news reporter who made the first news Süleyman Özışık anounced that he falsified the readers and asked forgiveness.

    I watched a few videos in YouTube and in none of them it is understood that they specifically protested the Azan. Can you share the video where they get louder with Azan?
    Seems like backtracking to me, if that's true why hasn't YS taken down the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HzQo91TEUg&t=22s

    From 1:12 you can hear they start loudly shouting something (no idea what though during the Azan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    Seems like backtracking to me, if that's true why hasn't YS taken down the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HzQo91TEUg&t=22s

    From 1:12 you can hear they start loudly shouting something (no idea what though during the Azan.
    Because YS is an AKP propogandist and Erdoğan used this misleading video in his public meeting to target these groups as “Islam haters” before his supporters inorder to increase the tension between Islamists and non-Islamists in Turkey. By doing this, he expects his voters to stay firm in his path regardless of the bad status of the country. He is using these tactics frequently. He is such a disgusting man..

    This video too starts with the Azan so we cannot understand if they start to loud simultanously with the Azan. It is more likely they had already started to protest but YS and others just cut the erlier part and tried to portrait it as if they were specifically protesting Azan. These are such a disgusting people..
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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

    Quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    Because YS is an AKP propogandist and Erdoğan used this misleading video in his public meeting to target these groups as “Islam haters” before his supporters inorder to increase the tension between Islamists and non-Islamists in Turkey. By doing this, he expects his voters to stay firm in his path regardless of the bad status of the country. He is using these tactics frequently. He is such a disgusting man..

    This video too starts with the Azan so we cannot understand if they start to loud simultanously with the Azan. It is more likely they had already started to protest but YS and others just cut the erlier part and tried to portrait it as if they were specifically protesting Azan. These are such a disgusting people..
    I see. Are you secularist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    I see. Are you secularist?
    Could you define your understanding of secularist? Everyone's definition is different.
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    Re: Divorce in Bangladesh Skyrocketing Fast

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you CuriousonTruth;



    Women are only fifty percent of the problem, men are the other fifty percent. There are many problems in marriage, our friend ardianto, has shown how to put Allah first in both good times and bad, in order to make his marriage work. We shared in ardianto's grief on this forum as his wife slowly passed away from cancer.
    Finding solutions is so much more important than just highlighting the problems. It takes one person to be a part of the problem; but it takes two people to be a part of the solution; but only by putting Allah first.

    Blessings
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    If only that were the case in my case.... subhanallah. My situation was meant to be. (Some of you probably thinking I'm still suffering the trauma). I continuously do istigfar and put all trust in Allah.

    My former wife explicitly has said she is not willing to give divorce according to the social worker who came to handle the case of our child who was interviewing both parents. She has explicitly said with emphasis that she does not want to give the divorce as she does not want to give up the gold or any money. It is apparent she'd rather it ended by some other means so she can keep her booty. Whether she gets to keep it or not should be decided in sharia courts or with imam when the marriage is dissolved. That is my opinion.

    I am seriously thinking about giving the divorce and letting her keep all that, although I would be criticised by family that just giving the divorce would be a bad idea especially without a discussion about who done what and without giving any thought of trying to get some justice because someone has definetely played this marriage like a game, the events and facts prove it. I know when I come to get married again the fact that I haven't got the divorce yet will go against me despite there not being any sharia law preventing me to get married again, however the preference for some people is "has the Islamic divorce taken place, if not then on yer bike". I could be faced with that dilemma here in the UK or even if I went back to Sylhet in Bangladesh?
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