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    Permissible to read Taraweeh first and then Isha?

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    Salaam all,

    My main city mosque has two tiems for Taraweeh in Ramadhan with a late night option for those people working - sometimes i have to utilise this option.

    Anyway, they changed the time for Fridays and Saturday night to 12.45 (although i had been told to 1am). When i got there (at 12.55) everyone was sitting down so i thought people waiting for Isha jamaat to begin so i started to read my 4-rakat sunnah. As i was reading jammat started before me so when i finsihed i quikcly got up and joined, however only after doing my intention and saying Allahu-Akbar did i realise this was the Tarawi prayer. Stupidly, instead of dropping out after 2 rakats of taraweeh and praying Isha, i read the full 20 rakats of taraweee and Witr. After this my friend and i read Isha together, with me leading the prayer.

    Is this permissible?

    Jazakallah-khair
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    Re: Permissible to read Taraweeh first and then Isha?

    Where are the Tharawih experts?
    Permissible to read Taraweeh first and then Isha?

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    Re: Permissible to read Taraweeh first and then Isha?

    format_quote Originally Posted by abbas_ali View Post
    Salaam all,

    My main city mosque has two tiems for Taraweeh in Ramadhan with a late night option for those people working - sometimes i have to utilise this option.

    Anyway, they changed the time for Fridays and Saturday night to 12.45 (although i had been told to 1am). When i got there (at 12.55) everyone was sitting down so i thought people waiting for Isha jamaat to begin so i started to read my 4-rakat sunnah. As i was reading jammat started before me so when i finsihed i quikcly got up and joined, however only after doing my intention and saying Allahu-Akbar did i realise this was the Tarawi prayer. Stupidly, instead of dropping out after 2 rakats of taraweeh and praying Isha, i read the full 20 rakats of taraweee and Witr. After this my friend and i read Isha together, with me leading the prayer.

    Is this permissible?

    Jazakallah-khair


    It is not permissible to offering salat taraweeh before salat isha. But in this case, you made this mistake because you didn't know yet. So, next time don't make the same mistake again.
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    Re: Permissible to read Taraweeh first and then Isha?

    Praying Taraweeh before ‘Isha’

    I prayed qiyaam in the mosque and afterwards, the imam started to pray Witr with three continuous rak’ahs, but I had come late and had missed ‘Isha’.

    Praise be to Allaah.

    Qiyaam and Witr can only be prayed after praying ‘Isha’. So you should have prayed ‘Isha’ first and then prayed qiyaam and Witr after that.

    Al-Nawawi said in al-Majmoo’ (3/526):

    The time for Taraweeh begins when ‘Isha’ prayer is over, as was stated by al-Baghawi and others, and lasts until dawn comes. End quote.

    It says in al-Insaaf (4/166):

    The time for it (i.e., Taraweeh) begins after ‘Isha’ prayer and its Sunnahs, according to the correct view. This is the view of the majority and is the practice of the Muslims. End quote.

    Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:

    The time for Taraweeh is from after ‘Isha’ prayer until dawn comes. End quote.

    Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 14/210

    Based on this, what should a person do if he comes to the mosque late, when the imam has already finished ‘Isha’ and has started Taraweeh?

    The correct view is that he should join the imam, with the intention of praying ‘Isha’, and he should stand to complete his prayer (i.e., four rak’ahs) after the imam says the salaam. Then he should join him in the remainder of Taraweeh prayer.

    Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    There is nothing wrong with praying ‘Isha’ behind one who is praying Taraweeh. Imam Ahmad (may Allaah have mercy on him) stated that if a man enters the mosque in Ramadaan when they are praying Taraweeh, he should pray behind the imam with the intention of praying ‘Isha’, then when the imam says the salaam at the end of the prayer, he should complete whatever remains of ‘Isha’ prayer.

    End quote from Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 12/443, 445

    See also the answer to question no. 37829 for more information of praying Taraweeh before ‘Isha’.

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    Re: Permissible to read Taraweeh first and then Isha?

    Jazakallah brothers,

    Many thanks, i thought i should stop and read Isha but went against my instinct and stupidly continued reading. I know for the future now though. May Allah reward for your efforts.
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    Re: Permissible to read Taraweeh first and then Isha?

    Here's a new Fatawa on this matter from Islam qa:

    He prayed Taraweeh with the imam before praying ‘Isha’
    Permissible to read Taraweeh first and then Isha?

    “Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious. " (16:125)

    Rasulullah said, “Anyone who conceals (the defects of) a Muslim, Allah will conceal them (their defects) in this world and in the Hereafter.”
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