Watched about half hour of it, and i think irrrelevant bits were shown, they just show a negative image and further increase the misconception that women are treated unjustly by their significant others in Islam. For example i'm pretty sure i read in the subtitles that 'Imrans' wife had at one point said that Imran himself has said that what he is doing is correct, and he can treat her [his wife] however he likes according to the Shari'a Law...i'm sorry but that's just utter scooby doo daa's!
Although he did get thrown out in style, and went so easily, did that look convincing? I'm not entirely sure...
Walaikumsalam
I had a wrestle with an alligator, i had a tussle with a whale, I handcuffed lightning, thrown thunder in jail! Only last week i murdered a rock, injured a stone, hospitalised a brick, im so mean i make medicine sick
"If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologise!" kay:
I watched the whole programme. I thought it was quite good and alot of things made sense. However i agree with the brother it seemed to show an injustice against women. Show things confussed me. When imran took his second wife isnt he meant to ask for his wifes permission first?
The thing about divorcing your wife by saying i disvorce you 3 times on the spot surprised me. I didnt know it had to be 3 different occasions.
In the name of (Allah) God, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
I watched the whole programme. I thought it was quite good and alot of things made sense. However i agree with the brother it seemed to show an injustice against women. Show things confussed me. When imran took his second wife isnt he meant to ask for his wifes permission first?
The thing about divorcing your wife by saying i disvorce you 3 times on the spot surprised me. I didnt know it had to be 3 different occasions.
That brings to ask the question that does a husband need to seek the permission of his wife if he wishes to remarry as I always thought they did but they didn't highlight that angle, although I thought the scholar was going to at one point when he asked imran wife "that do you accept imran second marriage" and she said "I had no choice but to accept it"
Romeo and Juliet eat your heart out..What kind of affect do you think that will have on both their personal lives? I don't think the guy will get it too easy after a nation of people watched what he said about his WIFE who he just happens to have a number of children with..Again maybe, just maybe that was a tad irresponsible of Channel 4, you have to look at the bigger picture, and the backlashes that could potentially happen because of what was being shown. I dont think the 'community' will be so welcoming for some reason after seeing some of this, i could be wrong, i hope i am.
Peace
Aslamualaikum
Oh and am i the only one who thought he slept in the car outside the house? Hmmm
I had a wrestle with an alligator, i had a tussle with a whale, I handcuffed lightning, thrown thunder in jail! Only last week i murdered a rock, injured a stone, hospitalised a brick, im so mean i make medicine sick
"If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologise!" kay:
Overall it was one of the better Islam-related programmes C4 has shown. There were bits that were dodgy that previous members on this thread have stated, but overall, it was done well.
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
I just hate channel 4, ok THEY TRY TO BE UNIQUE IN DOCUMENTING AND EXPLORING DIFFERENT ISSUES ABOUT DIFFERENT CULTURES BUT THEY JUST DO IT POORLY AND WHILE THEYR DOING THIS THEY TRY TO ADD ABIT BAD IMAGE
I wanted to watch this programme, but missed it. I'm glad it hasn't been as upsetting to many Muslims as some of the programmes Channel 4 has shown in the past.
This person's comment confused me:
format_quote Originally Posted by H4RUN
I don't think the guy will get it too easy after a nation of people watched what he said about his WIFE who he just happens to have a number of children with..Again maybe, just maybe that was a tad irresponsible of Channel 4,
Why is it irresponsible of Channel 4 to broadcast this man's words? Surely it's his responsibility not to say things he might later regret in front of a TV camera?
I saw the program and got a tad angry, though I do admit, better then what they usually say, wondered who thought up the part where they said muslims want personal sharia law in this country followed with the law mean theives will have their hands chopped off?
Imran, wonderful guy that he is, should learn to live with the consequences of his actions, marrying first wife because his parents said so, then second wife cos she was his "type"? If he didn't agree to the marriage he the first place should have told his parents that rather then getting married again, and his dad with his wonderful speech of well rather then commit sin outside marriage get a second wife? what was that about.
Hate to quote poilticians but it really is education, education, education as his poor first wife accepted her elders' decision as she herself said because she didn't have the knowledge, my heart just went out to her and the countless number of women who have this cultural problem shoved upon them which ruins their lives and the lives of their kids.
I wanted to watch this programme, but missed it. I'm glad it hasn't been as upsetting to many Muslims as some of the programmes Channel 4 has shown in the past.
This person's comment confused me:
Why is it irresponsible of Channel 4 to broadcast this man's words? Surely it's his responsibility not to say things he might later regret in front of a TV camera?
Peace
Not disagreeing with you, but surely not everything is put on air from what is recorded. It's not like it was a live recording was it? People say things in the heat of the moment it's pretty much natural when going off on one, unless you're blessed with being ulta cool calm and collective even at the hardest of times. once that clip is shown, it's been seen by a lot of people, regardless of how much of what he said was the total truth, but to us it just seemed true. Considering the situation with both parties, guns blazing, the scene didn't have to be shown.
If i were to get a cramp whilst being recorded, and then jumped around the room swearing, and just trying to get rid of the cramp, i wouldn't expect that scene to be shown, especially if i were to you bad langauge. Same kind of principle, when angry things come out that aren't meant, and with my dodgy example, get a really bad cramp and you might just curse things..i hope not anyway.
I'm sure i succesfully confused you more?
Peace
I had a wrestle with an alligator, i had a tussle with a whale, I handcuffed lightning, thrown thunder in jail! Only last week i murdered a rock, injured a stone, hospitalised a brick, im so mean i make medicine sick
"If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologise!" kay:
Well you don't really have your first wifes permission to marry again, BUT you would have to be crazy not to at least consult your wife(s if you dare)! I think every woman has a right to a family and should encourage Polygamy ...*duck*...HEY SISER WATCH WHERE YOU THROW THAT SHOE!
Our own perspective of divorce has been adulterated and one of the reasons for which our woman have to put up with abusive husbands as know one would remarry them. If you look at the life of some of the Sahabah(RA) they would divorce, but they saw it as more of a partnership, each having their own responsibility and if the partnership didn't work towards the Goal of Jannah they would divorce for each others benefit and each would have no problem in getting remarried because the Muslims at that time knew these things can happen...
Well you don't really have your first wifes permission to marry again, BUT you would have to be crazy not to at least consult your wife(s if you dare)! I think every woman has a right to a family and should encourage Polygamy ...*duck*...HEY SISER WATCH WHERE YOU THROW THAT SHOE!
Our own perspective of divorce has been adulterated and one of the reasons for which our woman have to put up with abusive husbands as know one would remarry them. If you look at the life of some of the Sahabah(RA) they would divorce, but they saw it as more of a partnership, each having their own responsibility and if the partnership didn't work towards the Goal of Jannah they would divorce for each others benefit and each would have no problem in getting remarried because the Muslims at that time knew these things can happen...
There were bits that were dodgy that previous members on this thread have stated, but overall, it was done well.
Surely you're not insisting all negatives should be edited out and the postives alone aired?
I didn't see this one, but I do recall watching a police series called 'Karachi Police' that was well cool. Beating the criminals with the truncheons yay!
Zor Se Maro Haan!!!
Last edited by AvarAllahNoor; 02-05-2008 at 11:48 AM.
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
Hey there! Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.
When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Sign Up
kay:
Hide
Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.
Bookmarks