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    A gunman has killed nine people at a college in the town of Kauhajoki in Finland before shooting himself and later dying in hospital.

    Media reports named the gunman as Matti Juhani Saari, in his early 20s, a trainee chef at the vocational college.
    The suspect posted a video of himself firing a gun on the internet last week.

    As a result of this, police interviewed him on Monday but decided they did not have enough evidence to revoke his licence, the interior minister said.
    The minister, Anne Holmlund, said an investigation would now try to determine whether mistakes were made.
    Prime Minister Matti Vanhanen said this was a "tragic day" for Finland. The attack echoed a shooting spree at a Finnish school last year which left nine dead, including the gunman, who had also posted an internet video.





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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    That's terrible.

    Is it legally allowed in Finland to own a gun?
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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    Yes. edit: To clarify further, most guns owned in Finland are actually for hunting purposes. Handguns are rarer. You can get the license by for example joining an hunting or shooting club.

    Even a 15-year-old can obtain the license if given a very valid reason, though very very rare, not sure it has even happened.


    This is the second school-shooting in Finland. The first happened in November 2007.
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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    Finland is just behind the United States and Yemen in gun ownership. Primarily because it is a hunting culture, much like the U.S.

    Sad story. Sounds like another in a long line of Columbine copy cats.
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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    Yeah, gun ownership is quite liberal here, though gun violence is rare.

    edit: Now there are 11 dead.. SubhanAllah...
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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Zaara View Post
    Yes.
    That's terrible. So it's only US, Finland & Yemen who are allowed to own guns. They should think of changing that in my opinion. Even if there are only rare attacks, a life is a life; priceless.
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    Actually, after the first school shooting there have been debates about changing the gun-law... We'll see what happens.
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    *aghast* no no no i didnt mean kool like that!! wallaahi!! i mean owning the gun bit!! never mind...

    ON TOPIC: This is very sad
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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    Thats Awful
    even If they are allowed or not People Still carry Guns..
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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    who acually listens to the law??? everyone carries guns, if u want a gun go to the shop and steal/buy one, in any country,
    but here is my crappy opinion.
    its the gun problem period. weapons of from wimps which is why theyr all over the world, which means wimps are all over the world (not big news for you). take every weapon in the world, throw em in the mid of ocean somewhere near antarctica, whoever is willing to go down ther, good luck. and set the bombs coz bombs in water looks sooooo cute.

    this will never stop thats all u gotta kno, violence is forever till death, and nothing u can do to change it, people die every day, people get sad every day, but nobody can do nothing bout it....wel they could but all the people i guess were brave enough have died.
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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    so obviously he wasn't a Muslim as the 'Government Political Mind Control Machine' - oooops! I mean Media (same thing really) - would have had it headlined as :

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    amendment 2..right to bair arms...


    we should defenitiy get rid of that one

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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    awww...thats really awful
    whats wrong with him shooting people then shoot himself ???
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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    *sighs*

    Maybe mimetism from the american sad records.
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    Re: Finnish school gunman kills nine at a college

    format_quote Originally Posted by SAYA View Post
    awww...thats really awful
    whats wrong with him shooting people then shoot himself ???
    its people who have no life, they hate school very much so they go and kill ther teachers and whoever is in ther way, but then they remember theyll go to jail so they decide theyll shoot themselves, but then they say "oh might as well" and kill as many people as they can, when they hear the sirens, they end emselves simple.
    this world is sick.
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    Subhanallah, all those poor people. Maskin.
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    Inna lillah wa inna ilaihi raaji'oon..What is wrong with people these days!

    I just read this on Yahoo news and the first thought that came to my mind was " isn't that where Al-Zaara is from!!"

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    Aww, you are too sweet. JazakiAllah kheyr for your concern, sis.

    I am alright, I live in an another city, far away, elhamdulillah.
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    I just hope whatever the goverment ends up doing is something more than just the cosmetical "lets ban the guns". Sad truth is that Finland has ridiculously high suicide rates, especially among young males and we really need to look into why so many suffer from anxiety and depression. Actually we should have been looking into it long time ago, but its so much more easier to blame something like TV, guns, music or computer games than to really try to find the answers and do something.

    format_quote Originally Posted by S1aveofA11ah View Post
    so obviously he wasn't a Muslim as the 'Government Political Mind Control Machine' - oooops! I mean Media (same thing really) - would have had it headlined as :

    ISLAMIC TERRORIST SHOOTS INNOCENTS AT SCHOOL
    I kinda doubt that, since once in a while finnish media is criticised going as far as leaving out important details regarding ethnicity or skincolour when describing foreign/non ethnic finn perpetrators wanted by the police. At the same time, this shooting and the one last year, media is digging everything it can from as "relevant" as dating adds to ideology. If we can dig out the ideology of the perpetrator, why would it be wrong to mention religion?

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    That's tragic. I saw the topic title, and went, omg, never knew that happened outside the US.

    About the gun law, well in the US at least, yeah law abiding citizens won't have illegal guns, but the fact is that people like who want to do something nasty will find a way to get the gun in their possession. And considering they usually shoot themselves after, they can't suffer more consequences than that.
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