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    lol sorry I just had to post this Masha'Allah. And I'm sorry if you don't get why I'm laughing

    Umm Haya, a 25-year-old Qatari secretary, says she has about 20 abayas with different designs, but she says they are all simple in accordance with Islamic tradition.


    "If women start making the abaya fashionable, then it will attract men. Then this becomes haram."

    Sheikh Abdul Salem al-Basyouni, a Muslim scholar based in Doha, agrees with Umm Haya.

    Al-Basyouni encourages women to cover themselves, but thinks the more fashionable ornate abayas are going against the teachings of Islam, as they serve to attract men.

    "The Prophet Muhammad told women to cover themselves and to not show their shape. A Muslim woman must cover everything except her hands and face, and this is the best way to do it.

    "Women should not show their beauty to male strangers."

    Modesty


    Women's dress in Islam is based on a principle of modesty.
    "In Islam we value women, like jewels and diamonds. They are so precious that they should be covered. They are not like pieces of broken glass lying on the street," Al-Basyouni said.

    Nowadays, the abaya is not just for women in the Gulf region.

    "In Islam we value women, like jewels and diamonds. They are so precious that they should be covered"

    Sheikh Abdul Salem al-Basyouni

    Al-Shammari, the US convert, set up an online abaya store - AlHediya.com - in 1998 for women living in the West who want abayas but cannot find them in their communities.

    "Most of my customers are plus size. In the Western world, there is so much emphasis on being perfect and wearing skimpy outfits ... the more revealing you are, the more acceptable ... it's degrading. Women shouldn't be judged by what size they are."
    The abaya serves as a convenient garment for women. For some the simple cloth adds to their feminine attraction; others wear it to escape the male gaze. But for all, the abaya proves that the way a woman dresses is only one aspect of her identity.
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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    respect to umm haya
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    Re: Umm Haya says:


    LOL...i like it! i really dont see the point in a abaya thats covering but it has the most fancy designs on it...
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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    Oh dont remind me..........
    you will HARDLY recognize that what some girls wear here is actually abayaa......
    if you come here, you will shocked by all fancy flashy designs of abayaa we have in the UAE...la hawl wa la qwat ila bilah
    may allah guide them to the right path again
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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    lol BarakAllah feekum

    She sounds great. But old

    Anyway, masha'Allah all the same.
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    masha'Allaah, good for Umm Haya. Something maaaany women need to take into consideration
    she has about 20 abayas with different designs
    20?

    lol this is also something maaany women should take into consideration. That they buy too many abayas

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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    Quote Originally Posted by piXie View Post


    masha'Allaah, good for Umm Haya. Something maaaany women need to take into consideration

    20?

    lol this is also something maaany women should take into consideration. That they buy too many abayas


    True.

    Buuut...I'd probably argue that.

    It's like having loadsa pairs of clothes. Now I aint got 20 jilbabs or whatever. But I do wear it when I go uni Alhamdulillah. Now say I'm in uni 5 days a week and 7 hours a day... I'd like to have a change now and then. Not just that, I'm outside most of the day aswell. People see me in my jilbab more than they see my clothes.

    It's like people who constantly buy new clothes or have a shoe fetish. Or hijab one
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    Re: Umm Haya says:

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    Buuut...I'd probably argue that.
    Don't argue with me.

    It's like having loadsa pairs of clothes.
    Thats extravagance too n Jilbaab is not like clothes. Its like a coat.

    Now I aint got 20 jilbabs or whatever.
    I hope not.

    Now say I'm in uni 5 days a week and 7 hours a day... I'd like to have a change now and then.
    Two decent, good quality Jilbaabs are enough for a change.

    Not just that, I'm outside most of the day aswell. People see me in my jilbab more than they see my clothes.
    aaaand?

    It's like people who constantly buy new clothes or have a shoe fetish. Or hijab one
    But isn't that wrong though? :blind:

    We should keep everything moderate. Remember on the Day of Judgement we will be accountable for all our possessions. The less we have, the better.

    n.b. Perhaps all this is easier for me to say, because I'm not tht interested in shopping n stuff. But for those who are and still control themselves, more reward for u

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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    Lol listen here ya lil piX (lol just felt like sayin that, no beef, I pwomise )

    Basically what I was tryna say is that sometimes it seems as though I live in ma jilbab rather than the clothes I wear at home...so just as I have a wardrobe full of clothes, I wouldnt mind having a wardrobe full of Jilbabs (Which I'll reiterate, I don't)

    Yup, and moderation is the key sis
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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    Sometimes you look at youngsters who wear jilbab and hijab and who want so many different ones etc...and although sometimes the colours may not be right and the designs may be too bold and the amount they have may just be one too many... its true though that at the end of the day despite the numbers they have... we will all agree that we rather they had a lot of jilbabs then inappropriate clothing to go out in...

    And inshaa'Allaah in time we pray that with dua and guidance they will learn the deeper value of hijab and just general worldly possessions. But that is not to say that a sister who has a lot of jilbabs does not understand the true value of it...

    I just dont think that being mothers, educators and da'ees we should put young sisters (who live in the West especially) off by droning on about possessing too many jilbabs... we need to lay off them a bit... just step back and be proud of the step they have made and you'll see as time goes by and they become adults they learn to value other things anyway...

    Its true that kids who come from good homes especially those which are practising can be taught the importance of not possessing too many worldly things including countless hijaabs etc... but there are many young people out there who do not have the support of practising families who often face hostilities just for wearing hijab from their own parents and who make big sacrifices in keeping it on against all the odds.

    I think reading this article...I agreed with what it was saying in principle. But I think sometimes you have to accept a weakness like wearing an overly decorated jilbab from a young sister who has no bad intentions just because you want to keep her on the path...and if that means for a while she will wear hijab that to me and you may seem not quite right... its her little struggle and its worth it compared to what she would have faced had she left the path...

    Allaah knows best... May Allaah protect all the youth out there who go through so much and bring them back to this beautfiul path-aameen
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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    I find the article rather self-contradictory. The people don't want the females to wear heavily decorated abayas as it attracts attention and yet, apparently, many wear the abaya as "the simple cloth adds to their feminine attraction".

    Stupid.

    And also, I don't agree with the following:

    "In Islam we value women, like jewels and diamonds. They are so precious that they should be covered. They are not like pieces of broken glass lying on the street," Al-Basyouni said.
    Women don't cover themselves because if they take the abaya off, they'll crumble to dust. No. We wear because it was ordered by Allah and the Prophet (saw). And because it liberates us, in many sense. We're not someone's possession to be hidden. That's ridiculous.
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    Re: Umm Haya says:


    Quote Originally Posted by The Ruler View Post
    Women don't cover themselves because if they take the abaya off, they'll crumble to dust.
    i think he meant like "broken glass" that if she was not to cover up. she'd have men staring at her...like i guess cheap in a way...invaluable, like broken glass.
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    please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.


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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ruler View Post

    Women don't cover themselves because if they take the abaya off, they'll crumble to dust. No. We wear because it was ordered by Allah and the Prophet (saw). And because it liberates us, in many sense. We're not someone's possession to be hidden. That's ridiculous.

    When I read the quote, the word Gheerah came to mind. Beautiful.
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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    Quote Originally Posted by piXie View Post


    n.b. Perhaps all this is easier for me to say, because I'm not tht interested in shopping n stuff. But for those who are and still control themselves, more reward for u
    yeh

    i just need a few more and im at the 20 mark
    good advice though pixie

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    Re: Umm Haya says:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ruler View Post
    Women don't cover themselves because if they take the abaya off, they'll crumble to dust. No. We wear because it was ordered by Allah and the Prophet (saw). And because it liberates us, in many sense. We're not someone's possession to be hidden. That's ridiculous.
    Umm... that isn't what it was implying at all. He never said women are possessions.
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