GEMAS: Mystery surrounds the death of a nine-year-old pupil of SJK (C) Kampung Baru Tiong near here who died several hours after being caned on the back of his hands by a teacher.
Chan Qi Xian had complained of a severe headache after he was caned around noon on Tuesday for not doing his homework.
State Education Department director Datuk Abdullah Mohammad confirmed the case but was quick to add that the caning could not have possibly caused the boy’s death.
“I was told that the teacher caned the boy for failing to do his homework. That is a normal thing to do.
“His death is a mystery and we hope the post-mortem will be able to shed light on the actual cause of death,” he added.
Abdullah said the school authorities rushed the pupil to the Segamat Hospital when he complained of dizziness. They also contacted his parents.
When the boy’s condition deteriorated, doctors rushed Chan to the Sultanah Aminah Hospital in Johor Baru.
However, it is learnt that the hospital authorities there told Qi Xian’s parents that his condition was critical and that he would not survive.
His parents then brought him home where he died at 3.30am yesterday.
Abdullah said that based on the headmaster’s report, Qi Xian did not suffer from any illnesses. “But we do not know if he had a medical condition,” he said.
Abdullah, who was away attending a meeting, said he would visit the school to talk to the teacher as well as other staff members about the incident.
Headmaster Lim Yan Ho refused to disclose details, adding that he had submitted a report to the state education department.
State police chief SAC I Datuk Osman Salleh said the boy could not have died due to the caning.
“It makes little sense to say that the death was due to the caning. We are doing our own investigations to see if the boy suffered from some medical condition,” he said.
He also advised parents to notify the school authorities if their children had medical problems. ”This will allow the school to have every pupil’s medical record.
“This way, we will be able to prevent untoward incidents, especially when disciplining them,” he said.
Qi Xian’s remains were brought to the Tuanku Ja’afar Hospital here yesterday morning for a post-mortem. It is learnt that the autopsy would only be carried out today.
In Johor Baru,state health department director Dr Mohd Khairi Yakub said they would investigate the allegation that the Sultanah Aminah Hospital had turned away Qi Xian.
why no parents object though? or couldn't this be challenged in the courts?
methinks culture probably holds it as a virtue, or building character or such.
why no parents object though? or couldn't this be challenged in the courts?
methinks culture probably holds it as a virtue, or building character or such.
I've heard some parents sued schools and teachers for caning, slapping, saying racial remarks to the students...
And there are cases of teachers being bullied by students too...
that is seriously messed up, so the poor kid dies and then they put him the pain of having an autosy afterwards? (and i realise how strange that will sound to atheists on here)
I don't approve of autopsies except in exactly such cases.. I am curious however, of how you know that there is pain on autopsy?
There was a time when kaffirs killed Muslims then used their bodies as an example.. and there is a famous case I don't know remember the parties involved, but when the mother was informed of what happened to her martyred sons, she said:
'la yahoum salkh ash'ah ba3d zab'7iha'
literally it doesn't matter if you skin the sheep after you have slaughtered it.. How can you think there is any 'human sensation' perceived after death?
When you are under anesthesia do you feel? let alone when there is no perception of pain whatsoever by brain activity..
Any pain that falls on anyone in the grave isn't bodily, only Allah swt knows how that pain occurs.
I have asked this question before and was given a reply by Ansar stating the same on the 'Akhira section' perhaps someone can help find it insha'Allah
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
punishment in the grave is actually a disputed matter, as per the qur'an chapter 36:
"They will not (have to) wait for aught but a single Blast: it will seize them while they are yet disputing among themselves!
No (chance) will they then have, by will, to dispose (of their affairs), nor to return to their own people!
The trumpet shall be sounded, when behold! from the sepulchers (men) will rush forth to their Lord!
They will say: "Ah! Woe unto us! Who hath raised us up from our beds of repose?"... (A voice will say: ) "This is what (Allah) Most Gracious had promised. And true was the word of the messengers!"
Then, on that Day, not a soul will be wronged in the least, and ye shall but be repaid the meeds of your past Deeds."
notice that they are described here as surprised and shocked at having been resurrected, and at the prophets' warnings manifest in front of their eyes, if there were indeed anything happening to dead people other than being dead they would probably know what was happening at the day of judgment.
there some ahadeeth supposedly, but if anything is in opposition with what the qur'an states it is not the prophet's saying.
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