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    salaam all,

    i think we all should pray for martyrdom bcoz according to one hadith even if we do not get martyred, we'll get the reward! subhan'Allah.

    reasons:

    sins are forgiven
    no punishment in grave
    can intercede for 70 relatives on Day of Judgment
    72 hoors in jannah

    it goes for both..men and women

    when a person becomes shaheed, the soul is put in green birds of jannah and they fly whereever they like and then comes under Most Glorious- Allah's Throne

    there are many reports that mujaahideen who are being martyred in Afghanistan fighting against US allies emit extraordinary perfume and street dogs do not come near their bodies.

    "Think not of those who are slain in Allah's Way as dead. Nay, they are alive, finding their sustenance in the Presence of their Lord". (al-Ale' Imraan: 169)
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    Greetings and peace be with you ahmed_indian;

    The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are wrong, but there are other people who need our support too.

    About thirty thousand children die needlessly every single day from grinding poverty and preventable diseases. About five thousand children have died since you made your post, about four hours ago, children of all faiths and no faith.

    How do you fight for the needs of these children with a gun, how can these children be helped by martyrdom?

    In the spirit of praying for the poor and oppressed.

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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahmed_indian View Post
    reasons:

    sins are forgiven
    no punishment in grave
    can intercede for 70 relatives on Day of Judgment
    72 hoors in jannah

    it goes for both..men and women
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    i dont mean to be cheeky, but what am i gna do with 72 hoors? seeing as far as i know about hoors, they are female.
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sahabiyaat View Post
    i dont mean to be cheeky, but what am i gna do with 72 hoors? seeing as far as i know about hoors, they are female.

    Well you'll never have a problem finding enough people to have a really fantastic game of "capture the flag" oh:

    Or you can assign them to armies and use them to study military tactics like Peter the Great of Russian did with his friends as a child (with real cannons :eek: ).


    Personally, I'd use mine to form a modern day Oprichnina to strike terror in the hearts of my enemies as I solidified my sovereignity over the whole of Russian propper ans disband the corrupt boyars


    Or perhapse that was Ivan the Terrible


    But seriously, doesn't that Hadith have a weak line of transmission?
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you ahmed_indian;

    The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are wrong, but there are other people who need our support too.

    About thirty thousand children die needlessly every single day from grinding poverty and preventable diseases. About five thousand children have died since you made your post, about four hours ago, children of all faiths and no faith.

    How do you fight for the needs of these children with a gun, how can these children be helped by martyrdom?

    In the spirit of praying for the poor and oppressed.

    Eric
    peace eric,

    do you know what the muslim ruler did when we had an islamic state and he heard about the people suffering in the irish potato famine?
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    greetings and peace be with you Dawud_uk;

    peace eric,

    do you know what the muslim ruler did when we had an islamic state and he heard about the people suffering in the irish potato famine?
    I am hopeing he was an inspiration to us all, and helped them in their time of need.

    In the spirit of praying for justice for the poor.

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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    greetings and peace be with you Dawud_uk;



    I am hopeing he was an inspiration to us all, and helped them in their time of need.

    In the spirit of praying for justice for the poor.

    Eric
    In 1845, the onset of the Great Irish Famine resulted in over 1,000,000 deaths. Ottoman Sultan Abdülmecid declared his intention to send 10,000 sterling to Irish farmers but Queen Victoria requested that the Sultan send only 1,000 sterling, because she had sent only 2,000 sterling. The Sultan sent the 1,000 sterling but also secretly sent 3 ships full of food. The English courts tried to block the ships, but the food arrived at Drogheda harbour and was left there by Ottoman sailors.
    from wikipedia.

    some brothers i know only found out about this when they went to ireland to do some da'wah (invitation to islam) and the irish themselves were telling them about how the muslims aided them in their hour of need whilst the rest of their supposed countrymen, the british and rich irish landowners were content to let them die.
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by wth1257 View Post
    Well you'll never have a problem finding enough people to have a really fantastic game of "capture the flag" oh:

    Or you can assign them to armies and use them to study military tactics like Peter the Great of Russian did with his friends as a child (with real cannons :eek: ).


    Personally, I'd use mine to form a modern day Oprichnina to strike terror in the hearts of my enemies as I solidified my sovereignity over the whole of Russian propper ans disband the corrupt boyars


    Or perhapse that was Ivan the Terrible


    But seriously, doesn't that Hadith have a weak line of transmission?

    Your forgetting ur 72 weddings you have to go thru.Or you could have one big one and get it over with.

    If my husbands hoors even come near him im gna chop up their pretty lil faces and feed um to the flying horses.and when he asks where his ladies are, ill be like...i dont know .

    but Allah will tranform our egos so that we dont feel jealousy right?.....good, that saved a few faces from being chopped up!


    but yes.martyrdom, .....scares me a tiny bit when i think of it.....
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    wow, i hope Allah gives us all a chance to die as a martyr! Ameen!

    no punishment of the grave! wow.

    imagine that! being able to intercede for 70 relatives on Day of Judgment amazing subhannAllah!

    and 72 hoors in jannah! oh my
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by nebula View Post

    and 72 hoors in jannah! oh my
    i know i know, 'oh my'
    its amazing isnt it
    *rolls eyes*
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    lol yeah sis it is black eyed virgins of Jannah... woo i know id be happy! Hope we can all make it to Jannah and loads of wine too! whereas the wine of this world is intoxicating the wine of Jannah will be delicious! w
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    Women and Wine

    2 'W's to be avoided in this world

    and esp women

    we will lead u to hell

    muwahahahaha
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    lol... Lets just do dua that we all go to Heaven! ameen

    sometimes i accidently burn my hand with hot water and im like screaming for 5mins... imagine what the fires of Hell will be like? oh i hope Allah saves us all from them the fire. Ill make the hoor kiss my booboo lol
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahmed_indian View Post
    salaam all,

    i think we all should pray for martyrdom bcoz according to one hadith even if we do not get martyred, we'll get the reward! subhan'Allah.
    Hi,

    Could you show me that hadith please?

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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahmed_indian View Post
    salaam all,

    i think we all should pray for martyrdom bcoz according to one hadith even if we do not get martyred, we'll get the reward! subhan'Allah.

    reasons:

    sins are forgiven
    no punishment in grave
    can intercede for 70 relatives on Day of Judgment
    72 hoors in jannah

    it goes for both..men and women

    when a person becomes shaheed, the soul is put in green birds of jannah and they fly whereever they like and then comes under Most Glorious- Allah's Throne

    there are many reports that mujaahideen who are being martyred in Afghanistan fighting against US allies emit extraordinary perfume and street dogs do not come near their bodies.

    "Think not of those who are slain in Allah's Way as dead. Nay, they are alive, finding their sustenance in the Presence of their Lord". (al-Ale' Imraan: 169)
    Thinking about your post . . . . . it seems that you are saying that there is nothing to lose and everything to gain if Muslims pray for martyrdom. That poses a question . . . . is God a fool and the answer is obviously NOT otherwise he would not be God. The next question that follows is how would God look upon someone who treats him like a fool? If you pray for martyrdom when you know you have the opportunity of getting yourself out to a conflict zone where you can find easy opportunities for martyrdom but you do not do that but instead just prey that it comes your way – are you not just trying to fool God?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Thinker View Post
    Hi,

    Could you show me that hadith please?

    Thanks

    actions are but by intentions.....God rewards a believer for thinking to do good even if he is unable to do it. (but He do not punish until we commit evil...subhanallah).

    so its not about fooling God (i seek refuge in God).

    its not like sitting in home and just praying for martyrdom. but i mean if a person is not able to fight to make God's word supreme and remove injustice and oppression, God will reward him if he intents to do so.

    hadith:
    Messenger (saaws) says: “Whoever sincerely asks Allah to award him with martyrdom would be given the rewards of martyrs even if he dies on his bed” (Related by Muslim)
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Sahabiyaat View Post
    i dont mean to be cheeky, but what am i gna do with 72 hoors? seeing as far as i know about hoors, they are female.
    salaam sister,

    sad that u just looked at hoor's point but not at freedom frm sins and grave's punishment and those are more serious indeed.
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahmed_indian View Post

    hadith:
    Messenger (saaws) says: “Whoever sincerely asks Allah to award him with martyrdom would be given the rewards of martyrs even if he dies on his bed” (Related by Muslim)

    Thank you.

    Can you give me details of it's origin i.e. who said it and where is it recorded?
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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sahabiyaat View Post
    i dont mean to be cheeky, but what am i gna do with 72 hoors? seeing as far as i know about hoors, they are female.

    I am curious if you are Muslim?

    I don't want to partake in this thread but wanted to clarify 'Hoor el Ayn'
    literally translates to someone's whose scleral part of the eye is very white in contrast to a very dark iris (the colored part of the eye) it doesn't specify gender!

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    Re: 4 reasons why you should pray for martyrdom

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    I am curious if you are Muslim?

    I don't want to partake in this thread but wanted to clarify 'Hoor el Ayn'
    literally translates to someone's whose scleral part of the eye is very white in contrast to a very dark iris (the colored part of the eye) it doesn't specify gender!


    what is their point for being there? I have never quite understood this.
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