Just wondering, if we humans are destined from the beginning to the end?
Because since the baby is being created by the Angels told by Allah s.w.t and something about the Angels writing a "story" of what would the baby be after it is born?
I think Allah (swt) has knowledge of everything that will happen.. Fate and Taqdeer exists but were all given freedom in the way we live and are given choices. Thats all i know i guess
We HaVe OnE LiFe; iT SoOn wiLL Be PaSt; WhaT wE dO FoR ALLAH iS aLL ThaT wiLL LasT
Humans are given will but certian things are clearly predetermined eg - colour, where you are born, gender etc. Through this specific circumstances we have to make choices.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
Belief in Decree and Destiny is one of the 6 articles of faith, Qada wal Qadar, Allah's decree and our destiny were written long before the creation on the al lawh al mafooth (the preserved tablet).
But Allah has given us freewill to choose the right path
Go knows everything - but we still make the choice.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
Destiny is complicated. Only Allah (swt) knows our ends but we have our input in. we have free will. If we didnt then we would have been robots.
An example, if i bet a boy, this is destiny that i met him but actions will accounted for my (religioulsy) i treated him as brother. it doesnt mean because allah (swt) sent him in my life, doesnt mean i think him as boyfriend or husband
Thats better. I m getting more understanding on it.
it doesnt mean because allah (swt) sent him in my life, doesnt mean i think him as boyfriend or husband
yeah, i know what you meant.
but however, just wondering. if it is, like "feeling" so, do you think it must be the work of Allah s.w.t? or it has something to do with Human free will?
Just wondering, if we humans are destined from the beginning to the end?
Because since the baby is being created by the Angels told by Allah s.w.t and something about the Angels writing a "story" of what would the baby be after it is born?
Thanks
brother are you referring to this hadith by any chance?:
Narrated Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, "(as regards your creation), every one of you is collected in the womb of his mother for the first forty days, and then he becomes a clot for another forty days, and then a piece of flesh for another forty days. Then Allah sends an angel to write four words: He writes his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in religion).
Hadith: Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 549
A Muslim must believe in Divine Decree or destiny — qadar in Arabic. The concept of qadar used in the Qur’an means a measure or the latent possibilities with which Allah (God) created human beings and all things of nature. When Allah created each thing, He determined when it would come into existence and when it would cease to exist. He also determined its qualities and nature. And everything in the universe, the seen and the unseen, is completely subject to the overriding power of Allah. Nothing can happen outside His Will.
Then Allah sends an angel to write four words: He writes his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in religion).
Yeah, i have heard that hadeeth. but i didnt see that it does the "4 words". i thought it was just a story.
Dont you guys have a "strong" feeling that, Allah knows what the next step in a second you are going to do? like, i think of typing a word and Allah knows i was gonna type and put the words?
Yeah, i have heard that hadeeth. but i didnt see that it does the "4 words". i thought it was just a story.
Dont you guys have a "strong" feeling that, Allah knows what the next step in a second you are going to do? like, i think of typing a word and Allah knows i was gonna type and put the words?
Yes, Allah SubHanahu waTa'ala is full aware of the past, present and future. Whatever we do is by Allah's permission. None of His creations can do anything without His permission.
To add on to brother AabiruSabeel: Allah is whom will judge you from you actions in the test life(Earth) and will ask ever sin you did and why. If you do not repent honestly you will have to answer Allah on the Day of judgement. He knows the future of a baby which is going to be born 20 years of now. He already knows the future of you grandchildren and so on. In conclusion Allah knows,sees and observes everything.
In our discussion of qadar it should be noted that a true and full understanding of the subject is reserved for the select few who have sacrificed great amounts of time and energy for the sake of Islam, after which Allah expands their understanding of complex concepts like this that cannot be contained in logical formulas alone. The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said, “Whenever Allah desires good for His bondsman, He gives him deep understanding of the religion and He inspires him with righteous guidance” (reported by Tabarani).
Allah already knows a little newborns destiny as in when HE marries Mrs.right.This is what the whole discussion is on.
Last edited by AabiruSabeel; 06-29-2009 at 02:44 PM.
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