Greetings, before I start, I would like to reveil my reason for making this thread. I need an unbiased view of the Islamic Golden Age.
It revolves mainly around these questions:
1. What is the supposed Islamic Golden Age?
2. Did it even exist?
3. If yes, is it really as grand as it is portrayed?
3a. If yes, what are the factors that made it so? or Did it really owes more to Sunni orthodoxy instead of liberal attitudes?
4. If no, then what is the reality thereof?
In my approach to this, I have made a dichotomy of sources. The Pro-views and the Anti-views with an additional(if there are any which I deem so) Neuter-views.
Oh yeah, forgot another thing:
-an aditional link that I classify as Anti: http://europenews.dk/en/node/1385
-And if anyone is familiar with history I would like to read a comment
This is not my area of history (I'm studying Stalin right now), although if I may, I believe that the Islamic Golden Age was a period in history that involved an Islamic caliphate that encompassed an empire from Spain to India, and made brilliant advances in advances in Islamic literature, poetry, theology, architecture, and perhaps most useful to me, science. That's really all I know.
This is a very interesting piece of research. I think you would need to investigate as many sources as possible, including books and journals etc. One link that is quite good is:
Sites that are outright unIslamic should just be ignored, because they are doing anything and everything to distort the pure teachings of Islam and hence their work will be baseless. The type of sites to look at are those that are aiming to provide factual information in an objective manner.
Some more sources:
-http://www.worldpolicy.org/journal/articles/wpj04-3/ayoob.htm
-http://www.jonathantan.org/handouts/Islam/Islam-H111af-sciences.pdf
-http://www.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=z3kZb4LTsf0C&oi=fnd&pg=PA13&dq= islamic+golden+age&ots=YKns_DFPxA&sig=WTD02-LZmxqib1KY4Ew_Pf7jlH8#v=onepage&q=&f=false
-http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/short/20/10/1581
-http://www.jstor.org/pss/1046702
-http://www.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=mOquCzBX3xcC&oi=fnd&pg=PR7&dq=i slamic+golden+age&ots=OOVV272Vhf&sig=urBZkhrT-VPLfrQsH-LBIasavs8#v=onepage&q=islamic%20golden%20age&f=fal se
In my opinion it was an impressive age for the muslim world. No one should undermine the muslim science, architecture, literature and medicine those times. It was really progressive period of time. An european and american should respect and aprecciate the achievments of islamic civilization, chinese civilization, indian civilization, japanese civilization, persian and babilonian civilization, egyptian civilization. A smart person doesnt reject something that comes from foreign place, if it is valuable and wise.
This country is dying because of a lack of men, not a lack of programs.
Oh yeah, forgot another thing:
-an aditional link that I classify as Anti: http://europenews.dk/en/node/1385
-And if anyone is familiar with history I would like to read a comment
Rofl this guy is a joke.
Excerpt:
Furthermore, the intellectual achievements of Islam’s "golden age" were of limited value. There was a lot of speculation and very little application, be it in technology or politics.
God, what was he expecting them to do? Build thunderbird 2 with rocks and sand?! So biased it's not even funny - and this guy got a PHD?
And what is this bs of limited value? Muslims were at the forefrunt of science AND trade at that time! Sure, not much was done on politics but so what?! How many things did muslims do compared to what they didn't? A LOT. Give em a break for not revolutionising every aspect of the world (compared to any other group of humans who were doing jack-all at the time!)
At the present day, for almost a thousand years even speculation has stopped, and the bounds of what is considered orthodox Islam have frozen, except when they have even contracted, as in the case of Wahabism.
Irrelevant potshot at modern islam/muslims. Check!
Those who try to push the fundamentals of Moslem thought any further into the light of modernity frequently pay for it with their lives. The fundamentalists who ruled Afghanistan until recently and still rule in Iran hold up their supposed golden age as a model for their people and as a justification for their tyranny. Westerners should know better.
More potshots. What a turd. Though, he does have a point about stagnation, which I agree with. But he's still a turd.
format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Indunisiy
It revolves mainly around these questions:
1. What is the supposed Islamic Golden Age?
2. Did it even exist?
3. If yes, is it really as grand as it is portrayed?
3a. If yes, what are the factors that made it so? or Did it really owes more to Sunni orthodoxy instead of liberal attitudes?
4. If no, then what is the reality thereo
Look, the golden age of Islam was pretty good - a lot of contributions were made that are still being used today (and/or were the basis of what is being used today). But, there were also areas of corruption (caliphate assinations, power struggles for leaderhips, monarchy rule etc) and pockets of poverty during that time, which some people either don't know or ignore.
There was a lot of good and some bad (noone is perfect). Unfortunately, that's the opposite today (that's why our parents moved away from our homelands!) and that's also the reason why some muslims talk about going back to the golden age - because it was 10 times better than it is today!
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
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