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    Pirates in the Indian Ocean has been in the headlines for a while now and I just want to ask you guys your opinion about them. The Somali pirates have been increasing and some people think that they are do good things as they are protecting the ocean from dumping of toxic in their ocean and also illegal fishing. I am sure you all know that Somalia is lawless country for the past 18 years.

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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohamed_Sadiq View Post
    Pirates in the Indian Ocean has been in the headlines for a while now and I just want to ask you guys your opinion about them. The Somali pirates have been increasing and some people think that they are do good things as they are protecting the ocean from dumping of toxic in their ocean and also illegal fishing. I am sure you all know that Somalia is lawless country for the past 18 years.
    What about the Somalia pirates who kidnapp people who were merely having a holiday and are holding them for a ransom?
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    the pirates most of them are not protecting the country and its coast,they don't give a dam.n they just want monies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullahii View Post
    the pirates most of them are not protecting the country and its coast,they don't give a dam.n they just want monies!
    Yeah, we've all seen pirates of the caribbean hiding:
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    ^ i haven't.........no more Hollywood for me

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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    Lawless thugs who just want $
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    I agree, they'd happily let people dump toxic waste or fish if they could get a % of profits.

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    Pirates = robbers with a boat aka johny depp
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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    i think its disgraceful how they kidnapped that british couple and wanting 7million for there release. id love to chop there pirate heads off. they think there so big and tough with there shot guns...take there guns away from them and they are cowrds.

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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    Quote Originally Posted by cat eyes View Post
    i think its disgraceful how they kidnapped that british couple and wanting 7million for there release. id love to chop there pirate heads off. they think there so big and tough with there shot guns...take there guns away from them and they are cowrds.
    chopping somebody's head off just like that is quiet a graphic thing to think about. these guys need to be captured and then they need to be punished Islamically.

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    This reminded me of Johann Hari article he actually argued that the pirates do have justice on there side, gives a different perspective but i don't totally agree, any thoughts ?....

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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    I do not have any opinion on this matter. Heck, as a rational being I should NOT have any opinion on anything that goes around the world unless I see it with my eyes and investigate it on my own. Hence, I'd stay silent regarding the Muslim pirates.
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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    Thank you for your opinions,

    I have mixed opinions regarding the Somali Muslim pirates,

    Firstly the whole pirates began by acting or being sort of Navy soldiers for Somalia as you all know Somalia is a kind of bad situation therefore the piracy began by taking ships that carry waste and dumping it on their ocean and also by capturing boats that were illegally fishing in the somali coast ( most of the captured ships were from the westerns) this has caused health problems in the cities that near the coast and fisherman got angry when they saw big ships taking the fishes and natural resources.

    However when the pirates founded out how much power they have, they turned into mobs and mafia's and wanting $ money.

    I am for and against the pirates as they doing good by protecting ther ocean from the western that are taking advantage of Somali's situation and against the pirates by capturing weak and innocent people like the two british couples as they weren't illegally fishing and dumping toxic waste.

    So the pirates in Somalia do have reasons for doing what they are doing if you look at the sistuation carefully and don't get misleaded by the kuffar western media !!

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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    They're trying to make a living, however immoral it may be. Thank God the British Government doesn't give pirates with hostages money though.

    But I also think it's the people who sail into pirate territory's fault. They know full well the risks.

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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    the somali pirates look hilariously we gotta admit, like with a mashed up boat and 20 men in there, and sticks and like one thing that is meant to be a gun and they manage to capture a fat ship or boat, that is funny,

    but what they do ransom and all that, i doubt its too protect the land or summin, its so they can buy themself a decent boat instead of the mashed up ones they use
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    What's different between Muslim pirates and non-Muslim pirates ?.

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    Whats the difference in Muslim pirates and non-Muslim pirates, you ask? I would think that Islam would be against these actions? So how can they be honorable Muslims and do these things?

    I don't think it makes a difference, they're all bad. I was rounding Cape Horn on a friends (fishing) yacht 2 years ago, when a small raggedy gun boat with about 8 guys with crappy old Ak-47's were following us. They followed for about 10 minutes, then we stopped, they started screaming and yelling, so we all grabbed a couple AR-15's and a shot gun and fired it into the air as a warning to them.....they fled really fast!

    I guess i can sympathise a little.....my great grandfather fled Italy as a stowaway on a ship, was caught and tossed of the ship 3 miles from shore! After comming to the US he couldn't get work, so what do you do in that situation?? You become a "Rum runner". He eventually had 2 charter fishing vessels and used them as fronts for rum running in New Yorks harbors durring prohibition. He would constantly run down t the Caribean and bring back rm and other stuff. He was never caught by the "Revenuers" and if he was...they were corrupt anyway and he would just pay them off in rum!

    And the generation before that.....pirates. I am not tooooo proud of some of my heritage and or history, but...they are family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italianguy View Post
    Whats the difference in Muslim pirates and non-Muslim pirates, you ask? I would think that Islam would be against these actions? So how can they be honorable Muslims and do these things?
    That's the point of my question.
    Piracy is a crime, and do crime is forbidden in every religion.
    If they are good Muslims they would not become pirates.

    I don't think it makes a difference, they're all bad. I was rounding Cape Horn on a friends (fishing) yacht 2 years ago, when a small raggedy gun boat with about 8 guys with crappy old Ak-47's were following us. They followed for about 10 minutes, then we stopped, they started screaming and yelling, so we all grabbed a couple AR-15's and a shot gun and fired it into the air as a warning to them.....they fled really fast!
    That was in Cape Horn and those pirates were not Somalian pirates. Somalian pirates will not afraid although you warn them with shot your gun.
    According to military source, Somalian pirates are professional and trained well. I guess, they have training camp where they can train themselves in piracy.

    I guess i can sympathise a little.....my great grandfather fled Italy as a stowaway on a ship, was caught and tossed of the ship 3 miles from shore! After comming to the US he couldn't get work, so what do you do in that situation?? You become a "Rum runner". He eventually had 2 charter fishing vessels and used them as fronts for rum running in New Yorks harbors durring prohibition. He would constantly run down t the Caribean and bring back rm and other stuff. He was never caught by the "Revenuers" and if he was...they were corrupt anyway and he would just pay them off in rum!
    Rum runner, Italians, New York, alcohol prohibition, ......
    Hmm, remind me to stories that filmed by Hollywood. However, your grandpa was a real actor in real stories, not in movie.

    And the generation before that.....pirates. I am not tooooo proud of some of my heritage and or history, but...they are family.
    Do you have family in Caribbean ?.
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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    First of all you have to look at the situation before you critice about the difference between a muslim pirate and a non- muslim pirate.

    Firstly you must understand that the Somali pirates came in existence because of the crime being done to them, the pirates were fisherman at first but then crime was commited to them and their ocean. As i mention before illegal toxic waste was and still is being dumped in the shoreline and illegal fishing and they are taking advantage of the crisis that is happening in Somalia.

    Even though it might be a crime what they are doing they are defending themself from the western and the countries that are commiting the crime, so what goes around comes around!

    Regarding the other pirates the non-muslim whatever you want to call them the whole reason they are into piracy is the money I mean there is no problem in their country and nobody is dumping toxic waste and illegally fishing in their shoreline so what excuse do they have?

    Atleast the Somali pirates have excuses for doing what they are doing!!
    In Islam self defence is allowed! I mean would you like somebody trashing your house?? eh

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    Re: Pirates? What do you think about them?

    something think about before you make comment about particular "pirates".
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