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    Question When Muslims/Islam say that the Bible is corrupted what do they mean has it been rewr

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    When Muslims/Islam say that the Bible is corrupted what do they mean has it been rewritten edited or added to by the Rabbis Priests Monks and Popes ?

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    Re: When Muslims/Islam say that the Bible is corrupted what do they mean has it been

    well im new to this so I can't give you verses from the quran. But go to a book store and count how many versions of the bible you can buy compared to the quran. I forget which one it is but one version says god is as strong as a unicorn.

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    Re: When Muslims/Islam say that the Bible is corrupted what do they mean has it been

    From Islamqa:

    Corruption of the Tawraat (Torah) and Injeel (Gospel)
    What sura in the Quran is related or mentions about the curruption of the Torah and Gospel?


    Praise be to Allaah.
    Allaah says about the Jews (interpretation of the meaning): “Do you (faithful believers) covet that they will belive in your religion in spite of the fact that a party of them (Jewish rabbis) used to hear the Word of Allaah (the Tawraat), then they used to change it knowingly after they understood it?” [al-Baqarah 2:75]


    Qutaadah said: “The phrase ‘then they used to change it knowingly after they understood it’ refers to the Jews, who used to hear the words of Allaah, then they altered it after they had understood what it meant.”


    Abu ‘Aaliyah said: “They took what Allaah had revealed in their Book describing Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and changed its meaning.” Ibn Zayd said: “The phrase ‘[they] used to hear the Word of Allaah (the Tawraat), then they used to change it’ refers to the Tawraat which Allaah revealed to them; they changed it, making what it permitted forbidden, and what was forbidden allowed, changing the truth to falsehood and falsehood to truth…” [Tafseer Ibn Katheer]


    Allaah also said (interpretation of the meaning): “Among those who are Jews, there are some who displace words from (their) right places and say: ‘We hear your word (O Muhammad) and disobey,’ and ‘Hear and let you (Muhammad) hear nothing.’ And Raa’ina [in Arabic this means, ‘Be careful, listen to us and we listen to you,’ whereas in Hebrew it means ‘an insult.’] with a twist of their tongues and as a mockery of the religion (Islam). And if only they had said, ‘We hear and obey,’ and ‘Do make us understand,’ it would have been better for them, and more proper, but Allaah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not except for a few.” [al-Nisaa’ 4:46]


    The phrase “[they] displace words from (their) right places” means that they misinterpret them and understand them in a way that Allaah did not intend, doing this deliberately and inventing lies against Allaah. [Tafseer Ibn Katheer]


    Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “So because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places and have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. And you will not cease to discover deceit in them, except a few of them. But forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds). Verily, Allaah loves al-Muhsineen (good-doers).” [al-Maa’idah 5:13]


    The phrase “because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them” refers to the fact that they broke the Covenant which had been made with them, so Allaah cursed them, i.e., He kept them away from following the True Guidance. “[We] made their hearts grow hard” means that they will not benefit from any preaching because their hearts are so hard. “They change the words from their (right) places” means that they play havoc with the words of Allaah and misinterpret His Book, taking it to mean things that were never meant and attributing to Allaah things that He never said; may Allaah protect us from that.



    “[They] have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them” means that they stopped following its teachings because they did not want to follow them. Al-Hasan said: “They did not adhere to their religion or keep their duties towards Allaah, without which no deeds are acceptable to Him; their fitrah (innate nature) was not sound and their deeds were not righteous.” [Tafseer Ibn Katheer]


    So it becomes quite clear that the ways in which the Children of Israel tampered with the Tawraat and Injeel include the following:
    Changing, Omitting, Adding things, and attributing to Allaah words that He did not say, Misinterpreting the words of Allaah.

    When Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was sent, the original Tawraat and Injeel had already been altered and distorted. Allaah revealed the Qur’aan to His Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and guaranteed that He Himself would preserve it, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily We: it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e., the Qur’aan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption).” [al-Hijr 15:9]


    This distinguishing feature was not found in any Book before the Qur’aan. From the time of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) until the present (more than fourteen hundred years) the Qur’aan has stayed the same, and not a single letter of it has been changed, as ancient manuscripts and the hearts of generation after generation of people who have memorized the entire text and earned the title of “haafiz” bear witness. We ask Allaah to guide us to the true and straight path. And Allaah knows best.


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    Last edited by Ramadhan; 02-25-2011 at 07:51 AM.

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    Re: When Muslims/Islam say that the Bible is corrupted what do they mean has it been

    Quote Originally Posted by LavaDog View Post
    well im new to this so I can't give you verses from the quran. But go to a book store and count how many versions of the bible you can buy compared to the quran. I forget which one it is but one version says god is as strong as a unicorn.
    that is quite funny. that kind of material in a holy scripture?

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    Re: When Muslims/Islam say that the Bible is corrupted what do they mean has it been

    Quote Originally Posted by truthseeker63 View Post
    When Muslims/Islam say that the Bible is corrupted what do they mean has it been rewritten edited or added to by the Rabbis Priests Monks and Popes ?


    the Torah has been changed, MANY, though not all, Scholars of Hebrew believe that the Torah that we know came into existence around the Unified Kingdom [the minimalists] and the other choice [Documentary Hypothesis] being that Ezra completed it in the 5 Century BCE. the latter points Ezra as an editor/redactor combing the J/E/P/D1 & D2 segments. Professor Richard Elliott Friedman currently hold Jeremiah's scribe Baruch as the actual author of D1&D2 but with the content being from Jeremiah.

    The Injeel was corrupted BEFORE it was put in writing although some of the sayings of Jesus, such as in Mark 12 give an accurate depiction of Islam, ergo they are NOT corrupted [even though Christians corrupt the meaning]:

    29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[f] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[g] There is no commandment greater than these.”
    When Muslims/Islam say that the Bible is corrupted what do they mean has it been rewr

    Had the non-believer known of all the Mercy which is in the Hands of Allah, he would not lose hope of entering Paradise, and had the believer known of all the punishment which is present with Allah, he would not consider himself safe from the Hell-Fire
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