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    My opinion is simply "anomality" i will elaborate about it But i want to learn about you nice folk's point of view.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    ^ You elaborate first.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    format_quote Originally Posted by Getoffmyback View Post
    My opinion is simply "anomality" i will elaborate about it But i want to learn about you nice folk's point of view.
    format_quote Originally Posted by Guestfellow View Post
    ^ You elaborate first.

    Define "anomality" too.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    i am arab feminist. what do you want to know?
    Feminism in the arab world

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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    Arab world only? Or, do you mean in Islamic communities?
    What is your focus and interest?
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dagless View Post
    Define "anomality" too.
    Define "feminism" also
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    With all these questions I dont think O.P writer is coming back.

    Why the thread ?
    What are you ?
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post


    Define "feminism" also
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    Hahaha my cpu got overclocked. Ok somehow everything that starts abroad from arab countries is genuine and by the time it reaches the arab countries it gets distorted or misunderstood. It's not that i'm an expert in feminism But i can see women's attitudes here in leb that's What feminism is for them an attitude rebellious attitude on No basis . They're not independent they live with their parents But when they are outside the house the whole world should revolve around them specially after watching couple of modern romantic movies where the story goes about a woman who fell in love with 16 guys and still not sure which one was the right one. So i feel that only the "sex and dancing" side of equality between men and women are understood here in leb.

    Alright i live on the 10 floor So be nice and easy Ok.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    format_quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist View Post
    i am arab feminist. what do you want to know?
    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post


    Define "feminism" also
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    The Taliban have a good policy on feminism and that is backed by a lot of Arabs.
    Feminism is the destruction of a nation. It is backed by Antichrist zionists, communists/socialists and all manner of Hellish minions.
    All good God fearing people should stay well away from this wickedness.
    Feminism promotes the break up of the family and homosexuality. Most feminists are angry left wing lesbians.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    format_quote Originally Posted by Getoffmyback View Post
    Hahaha my cpu got overclocked. Ok somehow everything that starts abroad from arab countries is genuine and by the time it reaches the arab countries it gets distorted or misunderstood. It's not that i'm an expert in feminism But i can see women's attitudes here in leb that's What feminism is for them an attitude rebellious attitude on No basis . They're not independent they live with their parents But when they are outside the house the whole world should revolve around them specially after watching couple of modern romantic movies where the story goes about a woman who fell in love with 16 guys and still not sure which one was the right one. So i feel that only the "sex and dancing" side of equality between men and women are understood here in leb.

    Alright i live on the 10 floor So be nice and easy Ok.
    Feminism in Arab World ? which part of Arab World do you mean ? Lebanese life style is very different than Saudi life style.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    format_quote Originally Posted by Getoffmyback View Post
    So i feel that only the "sex and dancing" side of equality between men and women are understood here in leb.

    Salam,
    I think you misunderstand, loose morality is not feminism.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    I know that my presentation of this thread was poor . As i remember i posted it after i heard some girls in a cafe talking about the "it's my life and I wanna do Whatever i want with it . Why do men do it and we don't" type of conversations. You see that's the type of feminism circulated in the lebanese lounges.


    My criticism is about those who are dependent on men But wants to be rebellious and to talk for talk. it's something caused by foreign life styles But i never met a foreign woman who talks like lebanese .
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    Anyways i accuse zealous men of driving women towards becoming rebellious. an old song says this is a men's world But it will be nothing without a woman or a girl.

    This social conservatism is growing in veils and beards only But declining in faith. Muslim controlled societies will never take muslims anywhere But towards more conservatism But in a decline in faith. Cos all i can see is plenty of veiled women and plenty of bearded men only Because of their loyalty to traditions not enlightenment . Women are veiled only to avoid gossip of the conservative closed minded society . Men are the cause of this closed society Because of their aggression fueled by honor. A man could become really aggressive only Because someone looked at his sister or if she looked at someone while he can do whatever he wants. So this fear of unjust punishment is causing girls to become rebellious on the closed society since it's controlled by men ,the zealous ones who wants women to obey and abide by force and only force.

    So this is a men's world But it will be nothing without an obeying woman or a girl . That's How would be the arabic version of the song.

    Then you have the liberal women who went in their rebellious attitude to a ridiculous level where its becoming anomal or just boring to listen to cos it's bratish. But being liberal in a closed society is like a trend now or a fashion cos you will notice the cultural differences even in a muslim area. like my area it's full of veils and beards. then 5 minutes from my house you'll see the liberals and trust me not literally liberals, only fashionably. And What's sad is that most of those liberals comes from conservative closed minded families where showing feelings is too much for them to deal with when it comes to enlightening their kids cos they conclude any argument with DON'T THIS AND DON'T DO THAT COS ITS HARAM and god will burn you in hell . So running away from this nonsentical environment to becoming anomaly liberal is the sad part that i'm seeing here in my society .

    Everything is happening under the table or behind closed doors. nothing can be seen in public (till now i'm talking about north of lebanon where i live) . It's messed up in lebanon "from my opinion" Because of our confessional system and the control of shari'a and churches of civil laws. Cos for me sharia has lost it's legitimacy Because it's unjust when it wants to be implemented word by word in some areas But will be modified where it suits the system. Like in beirut you'll see mosques and churches right next to pubs and clubs , like the mosque built by hariri in downtown beirut is surrounded by everything you can imagine from pubs clubs restaurants , belly dancing, alcohol.....But go north where i live or south you'll see a different thing. I lived in beirut for one year the mentality is more open and relaxed comparing to south cos i served the army there , and north where i was borned. I hope i made sense of What i wrote cos my mind is on a 180 miles per hour everytime i think about this social nonsense.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    Salam brother Getoffmyback,

    In your own language you must be a writer or a reporter, now that I read more of your writings.
    I also come to realise your writings are not a critique but rather a reaction to your environment.
    For to any person who does not know your nation's history you wont be understood and you'll get no empathy outside the immediate to you Mediterranean area.
    Wars and especially civil ones leave scars that turn young boys to old men and turn joy to cynicism.
    Happiness always belongs to others and has a limit, for most fear it will bear retribution.

    I also come a nation that keeps on living under the threat of it's own history and as such lags behind Europe and only leads in banality and total selfishness of existence with now and then minor deeds of charity only to convince themselves that they are still human.
    This is the time my friend when your faith be it political or religious will set you free of national constraints to be part of the rest who think and feel as you do; or imprison you, body mind and soul until you are worth no more to any faith or cause.
    There is a cliche saying but true "today is the first day of the rest of your life".
    Make a decision and stop eyeing the world from your tenth floor balcony for we are men and meant to pray and not hawks to look down below for prey.
    I 'm not sure in what you believe even so:

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    Eh Habibi al yunan i'm still downloading my religious views one thing i'm sure about is excluding the permissibale and impermissible part ,the punishment and reward part. Also the bloody end of days part.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    format_quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The Taliban have a good policy on feminism and that is backed by a lot of Arabs.
    Feminism is the destruction of a nation. It is backed by Antichrist zionists, communists/socialists and all manner of Hellish minions.
    All good God fearing people should stay well away from this wickedness.
    Feminism promotes the break up of the family and homosexuality. Most feminists are angry left wing lesbians.

    Oh gooosh, I'm going to get drawn into repeating myself lol but I can't resist. This post just screams DEBATE DEBATE. :P

    So! I have read about the Taliban's policies regarding women, not being allowed out without a male escort, not being allowed to work, go to school. What do you think women should be allowed to do? Feminism in places like the UK at the moment often involves women reading sexism where there is none although I often moan about how women are protrayed in films. In certain Arabic countries however women want to have the right to choose who they marry, to not be forced into marriage to men old enough to be their grandfather or they are sent to jail (there are women in Afghanistan still in jail to this day). I read an article today in which an Iranian judge claimed "In Iranian law men are worth two women." Comments like that are outdated, ridiculous and plain untrue. But while attitudes like this exists then good luck to the feminists of the Arab world.


    Dictionary.com didn't know what anomality was either.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    What if "feminism" is just fighting for respect rights of women as Islam says. In most of "islamic" countries they are not respected as they should be.
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    Re: Feminism in the arab world

    @al yunan you understood me well . And really i wasn't criticising i was only voicing out . You're a good friend. Habibi al yunan. Take care.

    @karl i will change the title to feminism in lebanon when i get on my computer.
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