The Insanity of Christian Zionism

format_quote Originally Posted by Amadeus85

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMFZZOOZLg

Thanks for this video

.Hitler is in his book my struggle said "I could have annhilated all the Jews but I left some of them alive so that you will know the reason why I was killing them" .Well, now we know why.

I don't trust David Duke...I think he was a KKK member. o_O

I don't think parts of that vid are suitable for a muslim audience

Oh come on, the same media which accuse David Duke also say that all muslims are terrorists blah blah blah.

Muslims should know that in the so called western world there are thousands of people who are no islamophobes and who understand the reality of zionism.

A warning to the muslim world by David Duke -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWL3Gt_0qYM

^ err if you're reffering to me, I was talking about the parts with nude women in them

^ I personally don't trust this man like I previously mentioned. I watched some of his videos and there are some things which he says that contain an element of truth. There is even an element of truth in what Fox news presents, but the facts are usually distorted and misrepresented.

David Duke: Nick Griffin was 'lynched' on Question Time

^ Interesting article.

I would also like to add that Muslims that support this man, think twice. I went on his website and read an article about racism and we would all disagree with him on what he has to say.

format_quote Originally Posted by ICYUNVMe

LOL at some mis-informed Muslims using a person like David Duke to legitimize their silly perspectives on society.

you give a similar perspective and represent the likes of David Duke well!

best,

format_quote Originally Posted by Airforce

Thanks for this video

.Hitler is in his book my struggle said "I could have annhilated all the Jews but I left some of them alive so that you will know the reason why I was killing them" .Well, now we know why.

You know he probably would have killed you and your entire family, too? Given that you're probably non-white and all.

format_quote Originally Posted by ICYUNVMe

I'm shocked by the hypocrisy. I honestly believed you guys were on the right path...

I'm not convinced. If you believed, we Muslims, were on the right path, would you not have converted to Islam? :/

i hope no-one minds that didn't watch a video by david freeking duke.

referring to duke and others of a similar nature [EXTREME RIGHT WING] completely misses the MOST important point, as i've come to see it. that is that MOST Christians end up being Christian Zionists [in my day, i would say that i was very much a Christian Zionist]; not that they ARE Zionists, but that their eschatology in MOST cases REQUIRES that a state of Israel exist!

how so? read:

Luke 21:29 Jesus told them a story. "Look at the fig tree and all the trees," he said. 30 "When you see leaves appear on the branches, you know that summer is near. 31 In the same way, when you see these things happening, you will know that God's kingdom is near.

32 "What I'm about to tell you is true. The people living at that time will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away. But my words will never pass away.

Parable of the Fig Tree
32 “Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; 33 so, you too, when you see all these things, [u]recognize that [v]He is near, right (AR)at the [w]door. 34 Truly I say to you, (AS)this [x]generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 (AT)Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.

so, what's supposed to happen?

23 "How awful it will be in those days for pregnant women! How awful for nursing mothers! There will be terrible suffering in the land. There will be great anger against those people. 24 Some will be killed by the sword. Others will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be overrun by those who aren't Jews until the times of the non?Jews come to an end.

25 "There will be miraculous signs in the sun, moon and stars. The nations of the earth will be in terrible pain. They will be puzzled by the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26 Terror will make people faint. They will be worried about what is happening in the world. The sun, moon and stars will be shaken from their places.

27 "At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud. He will come with power and great glory. 28 When these things begin to take place, stand up. Hold your head up with joy and hope. The time when you will be set free will be very close."

Perilous Times
15 “Therefore when you see the (T)ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in (U)the holy place ((V)let the reader understand), 16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. 17 [h]Whoever is on (W)the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. 18 [i]Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. 19 But (X)woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. 21 For then there will be a (Y)great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. 22 Unless those days had been cut short, no [j]life would have been saved; but for (Z)the sake of the [k]elect those days will be cut short. 23 (AA)Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the [l]Christ,’ or ‘[m]There He is,’ do not believe him. 24 For false Christs and (AB)false prophets will arise and will [n]show great [o](AC)signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even (AD)the [p]elect. 25 Behold, I have told you in advance. 26 So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe them. 27 (AE)For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the (AF)coming of the (AG)Son of Man be. 28 (AH)Wherever the corpse is, there the [q]vultures will gather.
The Glorious Return
29 “But immediately after the (AI)tribulation of those days (AJ)THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND (AK)THE STARS WILL FALL from [r]the sky, and the powers of [s]the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then (AL)the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see (AM)the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31 And (AN)He will send forth His angels with (AO)A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His [t](AP)elect from (AQ)the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

you see, "according to the Bible" both Jesus and Paul [at first] preached that the people will see "the son of man" return" "in THEIR lifetime!" [emphasis added.]

well, it did NOT happen and so, much like Camping, Christians now have to rationalize the prophecy. MANY preach it, other believe but are quieter about it.

without Israel, there's no end-time. to quote Nixon, the "silent majority" agree and thus support Israel. have you ever heard Christian say the state of Israel should be abolished? have you?

we have much more to be concerned with than just the crazy nut-jobs! it's the "silent majority" that gives Israel it's REAL power!

focus, people, focus...

you see, because we appear to be opposed to an end-time prophecy, Christians get away with calling us anti-Christ!

sorry i WASN'T gonna spell it out, but i did...

wa Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin

You know he probably would have killed you and your entire family, too? Given that you're probably non-white and all.

LOL
déjà vu?

format_quote Originally Posted by ICYUNVMe

LOL at some mis-informed Muslims using a person like David Duke to legitimize their silly perspectives on society. What it demonstrates is that for all of the big talk about Muslims doing their proper research to find the "truth", its seems that some of them are more interested in finding ANYONE who is willing to agree with their distorted world view.

I'm shocked by the hypocrisy. I honestly believed you guys were on the right path... I'm so disappointed.

You believed we were on the right path, yet you kept trolling the forums with anti-Islamic remarks.

Ok mate...

format_quote Originally Posted by Guestfellow

I don't trust David Duke...I think he was a KKK member. o_O

If by ' KKK member' you mean 'Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan' (i.e. racist sc*mbag in chief), then yes, he was. I'm sure he always invites representatives of the local muslim community to his barbecues though. OK, the black muslims have to stand at the other end of the garden to the white muslims, but I'm sure that doesn't get in the way of everybody having a great time singing dirty lyrics to Hava Nagila followed by a rousing chorus of the Horst Wessel Lied.

David Duke is a Racist and a Religious bigot. A very prejudiced man who hates anybody who is not a white, English speaking follower of his brand of Christianity. Because he hates Jews does not make him a friend of Islam.