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    "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

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    Whenever I try to get my dad to listen to an Islamic lecture on the internet or in person, this is the response he always gives me. I worry for my father, he was never really the most religious person and the only reason I am a religious Muslim is because of my mother other family members and wonderful lectures on YouTube. What should do and how should I approach my father with this issue?
    "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"


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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    develop your character as best you can without trying to please him - but for yourself - according to the guidance of the one who shaped you and knows your past, present and future, and you'll see him thinking.

    many people have fallen into that mode of stereotyping - when anyone sticks to the guidelines (fundamentals) of Islam - certain people who don't know ANYTHING about Islam or the meaning of the term "fundamental" brand you a "fundamentalist",
    the ones who are around those who have fallen into bida'a (innovation) immediately use the term "wahhabi"
    now i don't know much about "wahhab" but from the fact that nearly all of those who are into innovation or slackness in faith use the term "wahhabi" to brand any true Islamic practice - i would say i won't dismiss the man so easily.

    my brother also uses the term "wobbler" - i don't think he even knows what it means or what it's about - he must have just heard it somewhere.

    those who worship and exalt graves also brand those who disapprove of them as "wahhabi's"
    so it makes me think that man wahhab must have been a great person

    55. And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: "To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant."
    56. It is true thou wilt not be able to guide every one, whom thou lovest; but Allah guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance.
    Quran 28:56-57

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Also mention in the Book (the story of) Ibraheem: he was a man of Truth, a Prophet.

    42 Behold! He (Ibraheem (a.s.)) said to his ‘Abi’ (father): "’Yaa Abati’ (O my father)! Why worship that which hears not and sees not, and can profit thee nothing?

    43 ‘Yaa Abati’ (O my father)! To me hath come knowledge which hath not reached thee: so follow me: I will guide thee to a Way that is even and straight.

    44 ‘Yaa Abati’ (O my father)! Serve not the Shaytaan: for the Shaytaan is a rebel against (Allah) Most Gracious.

    45 ‘Yaa Abati’ (O my father)! I fear lest a Penalty afflict thee from (Allah) Most Gracious so that thou become to the Shaytaan, a friend."

    46 (The father) replied: "Dost thou hate my gods O Ibraheem? If thou forbear not I will indeed stone thee: now get away from me for a good long while!"


    Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 43 Surah Zukhruf verses 26-27:

    26 Behold! Ibraheem said to his ‘Abi’ (father) and his people: "I do indeed clear myself of what ye worship:

    27 (I worship) only Him Who made me and He will certainly guide me."

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Quote Originally Posted by abz2000 View Post

    those who worship and exalt graves also brand those who disapprove of them as "wahhabi's"
    so it makes me think that man wahhab must have been a great person
    Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Abd-al-Wahhab was a great scholar. you can find about him on wikipedia here
    "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    HIJAB IS MY PRIDE

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    I just feel my dad is one of those people that try to start debates among Muslims. Im exactly the opposite, fighting amongst each other is the last thing we need.
    "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"


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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    If your dad refuse to listen to some scholars, it's doesn't means he is not religious, but it's because he follow other opinions in fiqh that hold by other scholars. Do not force your dad to listen to your favorite scholars if he doesn't want to listen to them. Let him listen to other scholars.

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mujahideen92 View Post
    Whenever I try to get my dad to listen to an Islamic lecture on the internet or in person, this is the response he always gives me. I worry for my father, he was never really the most religious person and the only reason I am a religious Muslim is because of my mother other family members and wonderful lectures on YouTube. What should do and how should I approach my father with this issue?
    I don't get this response but when ever I put a lecture he doesn't come there or he leaves the place or sometimes he sleeps !

    We share the same problems and same benefits I am also trying to be a pious Muslim alhamdulilaah because of my mother other family members

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    If your dad refuse to listen to some scholars, it's doesn't means he is not religious, but it's because he follow other opinions in fiqh that hold by other scholars. Do not force your dad to listen to your favorite scholars if he doesn't want to listen to them. Let him listen to other scholars.
    My father will listen to any scholar who speaks about politics and business

    but he is really a good person ! I also think about him too much because in yawmul aahira I will be questioned about my father

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    "I just feel my dad is one of those people that try to start debates among Muslims. Im exactly the opposite, fighting amongst each other is the last thing we need."

    join the club! you're not the only one - i'm surrounded by them

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mujahideen92 View Post
    Whenever I try to get my dad to listen to an Islamic lecture on the internet or in person, this is the response he always gives me. I worry for my father, he was never really the most religious person and the only reason I am a religious Muslim is because of my mother other family members and wonderful lectures on YouTube. What should do and how should I approach my father with this issue?
    Your dad sounds like a traditional mirpuri brelwi, don't worry about it I used to live in a community full of them, my dad and grandad stopped following them as well.

    They will be very ignorant because usually the brelwi imams are always cursing vahabbiii's and telling them not to pray at vahaabi masjids and all sorts of other nonsense.

    These people are set in their ways, they're an old bunch who will follow an uneducated mullah from pakistan who can't even read the Qur'an properly yet they denounce 'wahabbi' scholars, they don't care to much about deen other than singing naats and having zikr concerts.

    Only thing you can do is set an example, most of these brelwi mirpuri lads are drug dealers and involved in loads of haram things, this is due to how crap the brelwi imams are - all they ever do is shout crap in urdu which no kid can understand which is why they end up astray. What you can do is show that atleast these 'wahabbi' scholars are causing a positive change in the muslim communities as they atleast speak english and can explain hadiths and stories which bring the youth closer to islam. Show the positive change in yourself by the knowledge you gain from these scholars.

    Sooner or later brelwis will be extinct, people are waking up and learning true islam, deoband'is and salafis are taking over.
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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    lol I just noticed you're in the states, can't be that bad over there, over here brelwis have built a strong foundation that's infected generations
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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.President View Post
    I also think about him too much because in yawmul aahira I will be questioned about my father
    But according to my Islamic teachers, in yawmul aahira we will be questioned about our children and our wives. And our parents will be questioned about us.

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    ^tell me about it bro adil was at 1 of their masjids for jummah and all the boys looked like gangster wanna be's with their chains and ear rings and during the khutba they were just talking, joking and laughing, I was shocked that no 1 was telling them to be quite while the khutba is on.
    "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    “Who said that guidance requires there to be someone accompanying you"

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Brelwi ?

    Is brother Mujahideen92 Pakistani ?

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Quote Originally Posted by Salahudeen View Post
    ^tell me about it bro adil was at 1 of their masjids for jummah and all the boys looked like gangster wanna be's with their chains and ear rings and during the khutba they were just talking, joking and laughing, I was shocked that no 1 was telling them to be quite while the khutba is on.
    lol I can't stand goin to their masjids, they end up having fist fights in the masjids over small issues - even the old men fight

    are you pakistani bro ?
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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    Brelwi ?

    Is brother Mujahideen92 Pakistani ?
    bro its only ever brelwis who use 'wahabbi' as a derogetory term
    "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"


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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Asalamu alaikum,

    brother the most important thing u can do is to make dua for ur dad constantly, that Allah guides him, and that he loves Islam, especially make dua at the times when it is most answered.Dua changes hearts. Like I practically do for my family, sister, brothers, nephews & niece all of them especially after adhan. U can print out some nice islamic articles that r of interest to him. Besides Islamic articles u can make him study some surahs from Quran (with tafsir) with u, especially surahs that have subject of Tauheed and akhira.

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    In Indonesia too, there's stigma against the term "wahhabi", it scares muslims who don't really know much about Islam or who are not practicing. It's like when an average american hear the word "muslim".

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    bro its only ever brelwis who use 'wahabbi' as a derogetory term
    Salaam,

    Actually some Shia's, Sufi's and secular Muslims use the term 'wahabbi' as well in a bad way.
    "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.

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    Re: "I dont want to listen to those Wahhabi fools"

    Quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    lol I can't stand goin to their masjids, they end up having fist fights in the masjids over small issues - even the old men fight

    are you pakistani bro ?
    Yeah bro
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