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'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

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    'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

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    Yasir Qadhi on the mawlid. Ameen to the duas!

    Sadly, both sides have fanatics and overzealous people who have nothing but hate and contempt for the other side.

    While I personally choose not to do anything special on the 12th of Rabi al-Awwal (and believe that the actual date of the blessed birth is not known for certain), I also do not in any way disparage or look down on those who choose to celebrate the arrival of the best human being, as long as they stay within the bounds of Islam in their praise.

    The fact of the matter is that, for the last seven centuries, we have had respected scholars who have considered this celebration to be discouraged, and others who have considered it to be encouraged with conditions. This is an undeniable reality that no serious researcher can deny. So if you choose to follow one set of scholars, at least recognize that another set of respected jurists have chosen the other opinion, and respect that difference, even as you follow the other opinion.

    Especially in this time and age, when the Ummah is facing so much turmoil and trials, surely both sides can agree that the motivation for their positions is the same?!

    In other words, those who celebrate the mawlid do so out of pure love for our Prophet (salla Allah alayhi wa sallam), and those who consider it to be a reprehensible innovation also do so out of love for following the Prophet (SAW) perfectly.

    Instead of concentrating on the different opinions, why can't we see that what motivates BOTH parties is their love for the Rasul (salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam)? And why can't both parties agree that no matter what the correct position is about the mawlid, the Prophet (SAW) would not want us to be boycotting and calling each other names and hating on one another? This, ESPECIALLY at a time of great fitan, when millions of Muslims are refugees, or being persecuted, or facing Islamophobia across the globe.

    May Allah unite our hearts upon the worship of Allah and the love of Rasul Allah (salla Allah alayhi wa sallam), for in the end, that is all that counts!
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    my imam does mawlid
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    https://islamqa.info/en/249

    Mawlid is Biddah,

    None of the Sahaba radiallahu anhum ever practiced it nor condoned it.

    جزاك الله خيرا
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    I think the thread title is more truthful than OP realises..

    And its only been 1400 years.

    Few more hundred and it will probably be a festive holiday.

    Although I'm not for or against any celebration.

    ...it's complicated

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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    Saw this quote, which is so true subhan Allah.

    "No matter what your position is about the mawlid ceremony, Remember that Prophet would never want us to be insulting and hating on one another."
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    It's not about personal opinion or position,

    It's clear Biddah,

    No evidence exists to show the Sahaba radiallahu anhum practiced.

    It's an innovation and that came about after,

    جزاك الله خيرا
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    Is the nativity story true? With the three wise men bringing presents?

    ...or just early marketing o_o
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    Don't know but since Allah tala and his messenger salallahu عليه السلام‎ didn't mention it,

    It's irrelevant
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again





    There are specific reasons that mawlid has been encouraged in Muslim scholarly circles, yet also reasons as Bro Farhan provided that some scholars have discouraged the matter. For myself, my heart is satisfied with the proofs of mawlid being valid and therefore do not see reason for any individual to lampoon people who celebrate the love of Prophet in the manner of mawlid as they do so with the consideration of the ayat (verse) of the Quran that says Allah SWT and angels send salawat upon Prophet and also the innumerable hadiths (prophetic traditions) that bespeak of the value of the human being sending salawat upon the Beloved of Allah Prophet .

    @BilalKid : Awesomeness, kiddo!



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    my imam does mawlid
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    format_quote Originally Posted by saif-uddin View Post
    Don't know but since Allah tala and his messenger salallahu عليه السلام‎ didn't mention it,

    It's irrelevant
    I found a website that refers to the wisemen as magi...

    Fun maybe not fact of the day.
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again



    ‘Say, by Allah’s grace and mercy; and let them be made joyful by this!’ (Yunus, 58.)

    And we have never received any mercy greater than the Prophet himself:
    ‘We sent you only as a mercy to the worlds.’ (Anbiya, 107.)



    Hope all my brothers, sisters and their families are doing well Insha'Allah

    Recommended reading on this:

    http://masud.co.uk/the-mawlid-the-conservative-view/

    http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/bida.htm

    http://masud.co.uk/the-mawlid-a-time-to-celebrate/
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    'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

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    If he reign king of all the land, I will reign king at sea."

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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    Religious people just love to debate about small things, leaving and forgetting the most important things

    Each year, we have a small war about various small things like Mawled

    As for me, i don't care! I do what i think it's true and i turn away from these discussions that will waste my time

    So, don't forget to bring your proofs and fight each others for nothing, i'm waiting...
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    format_quote Originally Posted by AhmedGassama View Post
    Religious people just love to debate about small things, leaving and forgetting the most important things
    Please show this photo to them.

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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    Well, one day when we dont fund wars or pay towards there aftermath...

    Then maybe Islamic relief and such like can put a stop to those pictures.

    ...as I shop keeper I'm wounded that many would turn up as thieves
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    Asalamualykum,

    What puzzles me is the Muslims who do celebrate Milaad are keen to show they love on this particular day but when you observe the same individuals on 'normal' days no one is keen to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet SAW.

    Surely if you love the Prophet SAW you would follow the sunnah regardless of what day it is…

    P.S – Am not judging anyone. Just a thought.
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    Alhamdulilah Allah swt is the greatest.
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    https://youtu.be/Qj3JrYLYCQ8

    One of the first verses I learned on ib.. Al-birr
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    Mawlid is an insult to the Prophet .
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    Now I really want to know how the people of the time celebrated birthdays.. If they did so at all.
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    The Saudi Arabian Government who are the leading pioneers of fiercely attacking the concept of Mawlid are the same people who dance with the likes of Bush and celebrate national day.

    Dancing with Bush https://youtu.be/LoRHLrXmqbc
    Celebrating National day https://youtu.be/MNgzbcCqj9I

    Mawlid is a noble act and if it was forbidden it would have been prohibited. If you don't celebrate, fair enough but do not scream Bidah in such an insulting and arrogant way when there is absolutely no logic to your reasoning. Why are you stopping people from praising our beloved Master and Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him.
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    Re: 'Tis the season of the 'mawlid' debates again

    format_quote Originally Posted by BeTheChange View Post
    Asalamualykum,

    What puzzles me is the Muslims who do celebrate Milaad are keen to show they love on this particular day but when you observe the same individuals on 'normal' days no one is keen to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet SAW.

    Surely if you love the Prophet SAW you would follow the sunnah regardless of what day it is…

    P.S – Am not judging anyone. Just a thought.
    I had a Christian ask me what I thought about the Christians celebrating Christmas. I asked them what they celebrate it for? He mentioned its to honor the birth of Jesus, etc. (I related that we also have something alike occurring this month, I told them that some will be celebrating the birthday of our Prophet, sallallahu 'alayhe wa sallam.)

    To return to his query, I told him I see the celebration by the people as a hypocrisy.. He agreed that people are not practicing their faith for the other 364 days, and that its just come about to remembering for one day and about exchanging gifts, etc.

    I referred to history, how we've never celebrated any of the prophets birthday - not of Ibraheem, nor Musa, nor anyone else.. and that not Jesus nor his disciples had performed such celebration. And that for us neither the Prophet sallalahu 'alayhe wasallam nor his companions had performed any such celebration.. Can it be possible that the Sahabah were lacking or missing out in their love and honor for the Prophet sallallahu 'alayhe wa sallam?

    Indeed, if we trully love the prophet sallalalhu 'alayhe wa sallam, we should be loving and honoring and following him every day. Not like the Fathers Day and Mothers day that people came up with to love and honor their Mom and Dad for one day, the rest of the days they.. you know better how they act.
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