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    Is this like Ummah forum?

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    As the question says^
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    Re: Is this like Ummah forum?

    NO, it's better moderated.
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    Re: Is this like Ummah forum?

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    NO, it's better moderated.
    Oh Ok! I guess everyone is asleep now because not much people are online:/
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    Re: Is this like Ummah forum?

    A bit different, but there's too much in common in both of the forums
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    Re: Is this like Ummah forum?



    Forums rank very well on search engines such as Google, Yahoo and Bing. People can find them very easily, therefore it’s important to think before you type. So don’t make your posts a source of sin by pointless arguing, backbiting, freemixing and sharing unreliable information. Reminder to myself and foremost before any of you.

    Instead you should use this platform to benefit your Akhirah (Hereafter). By contributing and engaging in beneficial content you can get rewarded Insha Allah and it can become a source of Sadaqah Jariyah (Ongoing rewards after you die).

    Ummah forum has valuable threads with pearls of wisdom like IB alhamdulilah. This forum does have room for improvement however. Some members can get into heavy disputing and arguments, the moderation team need to deal with these more effectively. The style of moderation seems relaxed hence free mixing happens and non-beneficial threads for example “Would you want your wife to wear…”. It is more like Facebook in my opinion with threads like "What made you smile today, what made you angry today" etc getting regular participation. Some members views on current affairs is questionable. My sincere advice to Ummah Forum staff would be to clamp down on these issues much more strictly Insha Allah.

    May Allah bless the Admins, staff and members of Ummah Forum and accept their efforts. Ameen.

    As you become more regular on IB you can gradually see the distinctions between the two .

    This is a beautiful post regarding a perfect Islamic forum please take a read : What is a perfect forum?

    And I will share some fatwa given by the scholars and quotes regarding forums below:

    By Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam:
    Yesterday at the ‘Freedom of Speech’ event in Birmingham, I shared something with the audience which I had not mentioned to anyone up to now!
    Some months ago, a revert Muslim brother contacted me... He said that before embracing Islam, he was approached and recruited by ‘certain authorities’ to create hostility, discord, disunity and hatred amongst British Muslims. He was meticulously trained to become an expert in inter-Muslim polemics. He mingled with the various Muslims groups in order to create strife and debates. He would regularly visit Mosques, Islamic Institutions, and even internet forums to exacerbate the already divided Muslims. For some months, he would act as a Sunni, expressing hatred for the Shi’a; then a Shi’a spreading hatred for Sunnis; then a Salafi, condemning Hanafis and Sufis; then a Sufi, bashing Salafis/wahhabis, etc… He even posed as a Deobandi for three months and called Barelwis Mushriks and grave-worshippers, and then a Barelwi calling the Deobandis as non-believers. This was his job, and he was paid handsomely for his effort! Al-hamdulliah, he was able to leave this job, and then embraced Islam.
    Subhan Allah, if this does not open our eyes, then I don’t know what will?! Those who hate Islam will do whatever they can to bring Muslims down and make them fight each other. Indeed, we have our differences, but this is not the time to dwell upon them, resulting in personal hatred. One has to only look at the various internet forums and see how Muslims from various backgrounds spend hours arguing and indulging in futile debate. We must learn to agree-to-disagree, and work together for a common cause. May Allah bring our hearts together and grant us tawfiq, Ameen.

    Therefore, it is sinful for a Muslim to backbite, slander, insult, or defame another. This is the case for when we speak and when we write, as well as when we are participating in forums online. The ruling remains the same. Internet forums are merely a means of expressing one’s words and one’s viewpoints. The forum, therefore, takes the ruling of the content that is found on it.

    Some so-called Islamic forums are dedicated to defaming and discrediting scholars and encouraging people to do so. Participating in these forums – except to criticize what they are doing or to advise them to change – is prohibited, since participation takes the same ruling as the activities that are being carried out on the forum. In many cases, those who malign scholars of Islam do not usually do so for personal reasons, but because of the knowledge that they have and the good that they offer to others.

    It is the duty of the one who hears or reads backbiting to condemn it and to explain to the perpetrator of the act that it is unlawful. If the admonition goes unheeded, then it is no longer permissible to continue in the discussion with the perpetrator.

    Allah says: “Already has He sent you word in the Book: that when you hear the signs of Allah held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn to a different theme: if you did, you would be like them. Allah will collect the hypocrites and those who defy faith all together, into hell.” [Sûrah al-Nisâ’: 140]

    Al-Razî says in his commentary on this verse [Mafâtîh al-Ghayb (5/415)]:
    The people of knowledge say this verse indicates that someone who is pleased with unbelief is an unbeliever. Likewise, someone who is pleased with some sin that is witness to and keeps in the company of its perpetrators, then he is equally sinful, even though he abstains from the act himself. The evidence for this is that Allah says that they would be “like” the perpetrators. This applies if the person sitting among them is pleased with their sinful behavior.”
    It follows that Internet forums where Allah, His Messenger, and His signs are mocked are forums that a Muslim should certainly not participate in. Allah says: “And if thou ask them (O Muhammad) they will say: ‘We did but talk and jest.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allah and His revelations and His messenger that you were mocking? Make no excuse. You have disbelieved after your (confession of) belief. If We forgive some of you, others of you We shall punish because they have been guilty.” [Sûrah al-Tawbah: 65-66]

    The Prophet (peace be upon him) warned us to be wary about saying dubious things that have consequences we might not be aware of: “A servant might say something to Allah’s anger that the servant does not pay any mind to, but on account of which Allah casts him into Hell.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî (6478) and Sahîh Muslim (2988)]

    It is impermissible to enter those forums or participate in them, partly because doing so gives those forums added strength and prestige by adding to their number of visitors.

    There are online many Islamic forums dedicated to the remembrance of Allah and to providing guidance and good advice to the Muslims. These sites are not only lawful, they are desirable. These forums are a noble means to a noble end. A person who participates in these forums will receive the reward of all those who follow his good advice or exhortation. This is included in the Prophet’s promise: “Whoever establishes a good practice in Islam will receive the reward for it and the reward of those who follow him.” [Sahîh Muslim (1893)]

    If the forum is focused on reminding people to engage in the remembrance of Allah and to offer their salutations upon the Prophet (peace be upon him), then all those who engage in such remembrances on account of the forum will be a source of reward for those who encouraged them. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever guides someone to a virtuous act will receive the same reward as the one who carries it out.” [Sahîh Muslim (1893)]

    If the forum focuses on the Prophet’s Sunnah and its revival, then those who are active on it will attain the reward of reviving the Sunnah. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever revives my Sunnah is someone who loves me, and whoever loves me will be my companion in Paradise.” [Sunan al-Tirmidhî (2678)]

    Muslims who have knowledge need to participate in these good forums frequently in order to strengthen them and increase their benefit. Doing so will help in spreading righteousness. Muslims should make a habit of frequenting these sites, since the strength of a website is measured in the number of its visitors.

    The Internet, including its forums, is nothing more than a means. It takes the ruling of whatever it is used for. We ask Allah to bless the Muslims to use the Internet productively in a manner that will please Him. May Allah bless us to use the Internet in the service of Islam.
    http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-431-3117.htm


    Praise be to Allaah.Most of what happens in so called amusement forums is carelessness and a lack of control over posts and comments, because both men and women participate in these forums. This is undoubtedly a door to fitnah, so people may be impressed or attracted, then try to get in touch via e-mail and the like. Hence we think that this door should be closed, and the amusement forum should be restricted to men, and another forum should be set up for women only for the same purpose, if there is a need for that.

    If a man tricks the participants in the forum and enters as if he is a woman (or vice versa), then the sin of that lie is borne by him alone. There is no sin on you, in sha Allaah, so long as you have announced clearly that it is not allowed for women to take part in the men’s forums or for men to take part in the women’s forums.

    And Allaah knows best.
    http://islamqa.info/en/102418


    Based on this, you should seek reward with Allaah for the time that you spend in following up on these participants and commenting on them and guiding them, but you should be careful not to let that distract you from things that are more important and beneficial, such as looking after your husband and children, acquiring shar’i knowledge, regularly reading Qur’aan and reciting wird (dhikr), because some people become distracted by forums from doing more important things and greater acts of worship. Fiqh means understanding priorities and giving precedence to that which is more important.
    http://islamqa.info/en/101732
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    Re: Is this like Ummah forum?

    Too much free mixing some moderators have favourites. Join in the fun of having 'jokes' on the threads.

    Calling each other brothers and sisters, even if they have the potential to marry them?! I do not understand that at all.

    Some moderators are fair and some too lenient with people with a lot of issues debating fighting backhanded compliments. You mention there is so much trolling of non-muslims and sufis and moderators need to be very strict, they will turn that into a fithnah.

    There are few moderators who join with the bullies and gang up on the person who disagrees. I was there 2011/ 2014 I was more practising and only interacted with sisters subscriptions. Very limited contact with the men. Dry sense of humour. Putting them in their place.

    Yes it's more to do with interaction like social media. In a non halal environment I have actually made some threads for sister's only you have men commenting on there and then that itself would cause a fitnah and frustration.

    Some married guys would like bubbly personalities, interacted and liked the threads. but then I don't understand if you're happily married why would you go on a forum to to have 'banters'?

    You could have a joint account with your spouse won't you for Islamic knowledge only? I personally think a lot of guys if married are looking for a second third or fourth wife. Not all women want to share their husband. They don't understand sahaba's times we're different. They want one for the housemaid looking after parents/ children and one for a Trophy Wife taking her out and about and showering her with gifts

    If they have a problem with you for being outspoken and you debate with somebody about free mixing whilst Married, you will get banned for 24-hours for using inappropriate language.

    what they deem as inappropriate language is not swearing but being assertive blunt and direct.
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    Re: Is this like Ummah forum?

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    Re: Is this like Ummah forum?

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    U took it wrong sis. When we call each other brother and sister, we mean 'brother and sister IN FAITH' .Not that sibling kind of bro ,sis.

    I too m a new member and as far as I know, moderators are all well. I texted few of them once or twice, and they were very polite. They don't discriminate. And privacy is so much focused on in IB. All its policies are fair and square.

    I read some past threads which included trolling (2-3 years ago) but now I don't find any criticism or trolls.

    I agree with the free mixing thing. But what we can do is , we can improve ourselves.like we can reduce our interferance in threads in which their are males unless there is urgency.(same goes for the male members).

    May Allah grant us gud in this world and the hereafter and save us from the hellfire. Ameen
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    Re: Is this like Ummah forum?

    I went on there march-April 2020 only lasted a month. I'm not that practising now as I was back then.

    No I would never go back now, especially one of the moderators deleted my comment so no one else would see it before I left.

    I didn't swear but was outspoken how unfair a moderators are. Only a hand full.

    It has changed alot.

    Even back then there were little gangs within gangs like being at school.

    I picked a sisters and they used to interact with guys. No man and woman should be called sister or brother. It's wrong. Out of respect you should call them sin or daughter of Adam out of respect.
    Calling a sibling gives it a personal touch, give them a chance getting chances even as a marriage proposal?! What?!

    We're not a school or young teens.
    So much wrong there. It's hard not to be dragged into the fitnah threads. Very similar on Quran and hadith. Good thing they don't do shirk promoting threads like other forums out there.
    So you end up joining in the silliness they all getting carried away. No boundaries in place.
    Less people going on the religious section.

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