I'll just say it frankly, I'm gay and in a relationship with another man. Does this go against the teachings of Islam, or is it accepted within the Islamic community for a person to be homosexual?
Lol being in a relationship in general outside of marriage is haram whether you are gay or straight. Doesn't matter. Secondly sodomy is a sin in Islam.
Lol being in a relationship in general outside of marriage is haram whether you are gay or straight. Doesn't matter. Secondly sodomy is a sin in Islam.
How does one get married according to Islam without being in a relationship beforehand?
How does one get married according to Islam without being in a relationship beforehand?
Lol being in a relationship, do you mean as in having sexual relations with the person?
You get to know the person in a halal way. Such as no holding hands, no kissing, no sex, no talking about inappropriate things and under supervision, such that your parents know. Then you get married...
I'll just say it frankly, I'm gay and in a relationship with another man. Does this go against the teachings of Islam, or is it accepted within the Islamic community for a person to be homosexual?
It's not haram to be gay but it is haram to act on it. IE don't do anything sexual with a man and it's fine. It's been scientifically proven that you cannot choose your sexuality so Allah has created you this way as a test for you. Everyone has their tests and everyone's tests are different.
Obviously if you are not attracted to woman then your only option is to be single. Damn, that's one hell of a test good luck and may Allah guide you.
It's not haram to be gay but it is haram to act on it. IE don't do anything sexual with a man and it's fine. It's been scientifically proven that you cannot choose your sexuality so Allah has created you this way as a test for you. Everyone has their tests and everyone's tests are different.
Obviously if you are not attracted to woman then your only option is to be single. Damn, that's one hell of a test good luck and may Allah guide you.
Couldn't I be married to a man but just abstain from sexual things?
Allah SWT did not create you as a gay. That 'desire' is a sinful desire, and from the whispers of shaytaan.
Sodomy in Islam is a very great sin. you should realise that this sinful desire, that is a distortion of the natural state we were created in, should never be acted upon. Suppress your desire asap.
I don't agree that you were created gay. That is a grave accusation against Allah SWT.
Sodomy is to never be committed.
You were created male, therefore you are male. Your sexual orientation is contrary to the fitrah, Allah SWT created us in.
Those desires are satanic and should not be acted upon.
And no, you can't marry a male, it is not valid, and it is sinful.
you were not created gay, you were not born gay. May Allah SWT guide you away from sodomy and to Islam. Ameen.
It's not haram to be gay but it is haram to act on it. IE don't do anything sexual with a man and it's fine. It's been scientifically proven that you cannot choose your sexuality so Allah has created you this way as a test for you. Everyone has their tests and everyone's tests are different.
Obviously if you are not attracted to woman then your only option is to be single. Damn, that's one hell of a test good luck and may Allah guide you.
I disagree, Allah SWT did NOT create him this way. It is shaytaan that twisted his desires.
And being gay is haram, the 'desire' is a sinful desire.
Allah SWT did not create you as a gay. That 'desire' is a sinful desire, and from the whispers of shaytaan.
Sodomy in Islam is a very great sin. you should realise that this sinful desire, that is a distortion of the natural state we were created in, should never be acted upon. Suppress your desire asap.
I don't agree that you were created gay. That is a grave accusation against Allah SWT.
Sodomy is to never be committed.
You were created male, therefore you are male. Your sexual orientation is contrary to the fitrah, Allah SWT created us in.
Those desires are satanic and should not be acted upon.
And no, you can't marry a male, it is not valid, and it is sinful.
you were not created gay, you were not born gay. May Allah SWT guide you away from sodomy and to Islam. Ameen.
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You were not created as gay. It is other influences that messed up with your natural system.
In Islam you are supposed to suppress such a feeling if it ever arises.
May Allah guide you and show you the light of Islam, ameen.
What reason would Allah have to create me but not ensure that I am straight? And how is it an accusation against Allah to be gay? Also, what scripture says all of this?
I disagree, Allah SWT did NOT create him this way. It is shaytaan that twisted his desires.
And being gay is haram, the 'desire' is a sinful desire.
I couldn't disagree more. There are homosexuals from every corner of the land, from Japan to Australia to Africa to America to Saudi Arabia even. There are brothers who are raised in a family and one of them becomes gay and the other does not. You ask ANY gay person, Muslim, Christian, Jew or Atheist and they will tell you that they did not make a conscious effort to be gay, as in they did not choose to be gay.
Typically a gay person will realise he or she is gay at the same age others realise they like the opposite sex. I realised I liked boys when I was 8 or 9, did I decide on this? Nope, I just naturally liked boys.
I know you're not going to like what I'm about to say next but it is a fact and if you don't know it then youtube will show you plenty of videos... but animals are also sometimes gay. They have homosexual relations. My friend has two male dogs and they even try to have sex... I saw it with my own eyes, one climbs on top of the other and tries to hump him lol.
You should try and show me a specific verse from the Quran in which Allah tells us he did not create homosexuals. I see disabilities and homosexuality nothing more than tests from god.
I couldn't disagree more. There are homosexuals from every corner of the land, from Japan to Australia to Africa to America to Saudi Arabia even. There are brothers who are raised in a family and one of them becomes gay and the other does not. You ask ANY gay person, Muslim, Christian, Jew or Atheist and they will tell you that they did not make a conscious effort to be gay, as in they did not choose to be gay.
Typically a gay person will realise he or she is gay at the same age others realise they like the opposite sex. I realised I liked boys when I was 8 or 9, did I decide on this? Nope, I just naturally liked boys.
I know you're not going to like what I'm about to say next but it is a fact and if you don't know it then youtube will show you plenty of videos... but animals are also sometimes gay. They have homosexual relations. My friend has two male dogs and they even try to have sex... I saw it with my own eyes, one climbs on top of the other and tries to hump him lol.
You should try and show me a specific verse from the Quran in which Allah tells us he did not create homosexuals. I see disabilities and homosexuality nothing more than tests from god.
What reason would Allah have to create me but not ensure that I am straight? And how is it an accusation against Allah to be gay? Also, what scripture says all of this?
Firstly, Allah SWT didn't create you gay, to say so is to accuse Allah SWT of an immorality, and Allah SWT does not command immorallity.
Secondly, we are all responsible for searching the truth, and you should realise that this desire is inspired by the shaytaan.
Just like transgenders, etc. they themselves fall into this devilish trap. It is your test, now will you indulge in this filth or search for Allah SWT and repent?
I couldn't disagree more. There are homosexuals from every corner of the land, from Japan to Australia to Africa to America to Saudi Arabia even. There are brothers who are raised in a family and one of them becomes gay and the other does not. You ask ANY gay person, Muslim, Christian, Jew or Atheist and they will tell you that they did not make a conscious effort to be gay, as in they did not choose to be gay.
Typically a gay person will realise he or she is gay at the same age others realise they like the opposite sex. I realised I liked boys when I was 8 or 9, did I decide on this? Nope, I just naturally liked boys.
I know you're not going to like what I'm about to say next but it is a fact and if you don't know it then youtube will show you plenty of videos... but animals are also sometimes gay. They have homosexual relations. My friend has two male dogs and they even try to have sex... I saw it with my own eyes, one climbs on top of the other and tries to hump him lol.
You should try and show me a specific verse from the Quran in which Allah tells us he did not create homosexuals. I see disabilities and homosexuality nothing more than tests from god.
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Read to your hearts content, all the sources are linked at the bottom of the wiki for you to verify for yourself.
This. It would make no sense for me to choose to be gay when I see all the evil committed against other gay people. It's just a natural impulse that's developed unconsciously.
But, regarding your animal point, it is often a sign of authority and higher rank for an animal like a dog to have sex with another male dog. It's to assert dominance, just like how a lot of men get raped in prison, the rapist isn't gay, he's just asserting his dominance over the other man (or he is just desperate enough for sex that he will resort to forcing another man to do it with him).
No it is not a natural impulse, it is a desire inspired by the shaytaan. To say otherwise would be an accusation that it is in our fitrah, a grave accusation against Allah SWT, it is not natural.
This. It would make no sense for me to choose to be gay when I see all the evil committed against other gay people. It's just a natural impulse that's developed unconsciously.
But, regarding your animal point, it is often a sign of authority and higher rank for an animal like a dog to have sex with another male dog. It's to assert dominance, just like how a lot of men get raped in prison, the rapist isn't gay, he's just asserting his dominance over the other man (or he is just desperate enough for sex that he will resort to forcing another man to do it with him).
No.. in prison men have sex with other men because their locked up with no female contact whatsoever and they cannot resist themselves. In the animal kingdom yes they do this for dominance also but that's not the point... I don't care why an animal does or doesn't have sex with the same gender... the fact that they are committing homosexuality is a crime against god. End of story.
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