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    My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical... (OP)


    ...how can I prove to my dad that I'm not?
    My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical...

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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaqib View Post
    No, I have to play the violin....
    Ouch. I wish I had other advice for you, brother.
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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    Are music classes compulsory in your part of the world? Seems like a strange curriculum.
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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    Quote Originally Posted by ibn-Adam View Post
    Are music classes compulsory in your part of the world? Seems like a strange curriculum.
    No, but my mom says I have to finish it even though I can quit...
    My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical...

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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    What exactly is the reason your parents want you to take these music classes? What benefit will you be getting from them?
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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    Quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    What exactly is the reason your parents want you to take these music classes? What benefit will you be getting from them?
    Nothing! They think I need to be moderate by doing this haram nonsense!

    What can I do tomorrow? I'm planning on faking I have to go to the bathroom and skip out a lot of the time
    My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical...

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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    They keep saying "oh you're an embarrassment you're bringing this religion to shame!" and idk how to cope with this, I've already been cheated by the counselor and my teacher, my parents insist on the class, I rely on Allah and I need him to make it easy for me.
    My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical...

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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaqib View Post
    I don't want to loose trust in Allah I want Allah to give me a dream to help me....
    Hi brother Aaqib,

    Perform the Istikhara prayer.

    See here: https://islamqa.info/en/2217.

    Follow the instructions on this page.

    Pray before going to sleep.

    Trust me - it works.

    Salam alaikum.

    Edit: Here is my recent experience with Istikhara: Istikhara Story

    It is a true story that happened to me this year.

    Allah (swt) ALWAYS comes first, even before parents.

    Remember, Abraham (pbuh) was willing to sacrifice his son.

    Why? Simply because Allah (swt) instructed him to do so.
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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    Greetings and peace be with you Aaqib;

    how can I prove to my dad that I'm not?
    Ask your dad to recommend a good Muslim forum that he would be happy for you to be on. Or, you could say that people on IB have to be good Muslims, because they need to be a good example to all the non Muslims on the forum.

    In the spirit of praying to 'One God'

    Eric
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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaqib View Post
    They keep saying "oh you're an embarrassment you're bringing this religion to shame!" and idk how to cope with this, I've already been cheated by the counselor and my teacher, my parents insist on the class, I rely on Allah and I need him to make it easy for me.
    the greatest musical instrument in the world is the human voice - all else is just trappings.

    Here is my proof:



    I hate to say this bro Aqib, but your parents saying "oh you're an embarrassment you're bringing this religion to shame!" is pretty ignorant of them.

    May Allah, ease for you, your affairs. Ameen

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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    ^ Bro, that video is a wind up. Please see: http://ilmfeed.com/viral-video-effec...han-a-wind-up/


    A video purporting to show how music and the call to prayer affects the body has gone viral. It has been shared across social media including messaging services such as WhatsApp.

    The video starts with an unidentified man playing music and pointing to graphics displayed on a goniometer claiming that this is how music affects the “the water, the minerals and the salts in the body”.

    He then plays the call to prayer and claims it has an opposite effect on the body.


    Whilst it’s true that the call to prayer does have a calming effect this video does not provide a scientific proof and is in fact a wind-up (they can be heard laughing at the end of the video).


    It’s in fact to do with whether the audio is stereo or mono. One obvious giveaway is that he can be seen switching off one of the channels of the call to prayer in order to make it play in mono.


    Several people have left comments on social media pointing to the fact that it’s fake.


    Nasar Ishfaq wrote:


    “The graph you see is called a Goniometer (he says it at the start of the video). The graph shows a 2D map of an audio recording, it allows audio-editors to balance the left and right channels of the sound to produce Stereo sound – that’s why on some files the graph produced a elipse.
    Mono audio files produce a straight line and appear as almost silent on the graph as the audio is not using right and left channels and so is in perfect balance.
    It has NOTHING to do with the sound itself only the way it was recorded.”

    Joshua Surreal wrote:


    “This is a stereo analyzer, The graph your seeing doesn’t even show any sort of frequency, It shows the stereo image of an audio clip.”

    Hafiz Hanif tried it himself:


    “Downloaded and installed a Goniometer, searched and download an Athan audio, made sure it was a stereo file, and ran the audio in the Goniometer. The wave was everywhere.”

    Simon showed a live demo through Facebook live to prove it wrong



    So the moral of the story? Don’t believe everything you hear or see on the internet. If you are not sure, ask an expert – in this case, sound engineers. You can also send us an email and we’ll check for you.

    Let’s remember the following statement of the Prophet:


    Abu Huraira narrated the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “It is enough to call a person a liar that he narrates everything he hears”[Sahih Muslim]

    The explanation of the hadith is that a person will hear a mixture of truth and falsehood and if they simply narrate everything without checking what is true and what is false, they will inevitably narrate the lies too.
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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    there is scientific research to how intention can affect water though bro Ibn Adam, and considering our bodies are mostly water, I think there is some truth to this.

    Take for example, the research of Dr Masaru Emoto.

    In brief (you'll get the idea) :



    follow up on it, and see for yourself.

    Scimi

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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    there is scientific research to how intention can affect water though bro Ibn Adam, and considering our bodies are mostly water, I think there is some truth to this.

    Take for example, the research of Dr Masaru Emoto.

    In brief (you'll get the idea) :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au4qx_l8KEU

    follow up on it, and see for yourself.

    Scimi
    Yes, this is very true. Words have an effect of the body and soul.

    Just saying that particular video of sound is not really a scientific experiment. There could be other true experiments that we are not aware of.
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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    I had that vid sent to me on whatsapp four times today lol... madness.

    Scimi
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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    On a side note - check this out. The Chinese managed to tap into how sound affects water for almost a millennium.

    This video is of a Chinese resonance bowl (turn volume to less than half way, it's loud)



    Now, that's food for thought.

    Scimi
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    Re: My dad is trying to block this site as he thinks this site is making me radical..

    This is a Ted Ed vid that briefly summarizes the main benefits of learning to play music that anyone would want to point to. This vid has literally nothing to do with Islam, but it may satisfy the curiosity of anyone who wants to know what sort of measurable benefits are associated with learning to play music.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0JKCYZ8hng
    Although it's worth pointing out that a basic, intro-level high school music class is only going to introduce people to the possibilities of truly learning to play an instrument- it's basically an entire course whose purpose is to position a student at the edge of something and find out if they're into it.

    It's too bad that you haven't been able to get anything to go your way yet, although I can't say I'm entirely surprised by the requirement for parental involvement in the exemption. That's probably done in order to prevent lazy students from opting out of something that they just don't feel like doing- which is not you, that's not what you're doing at all, but the requirement is probably there with that sort of thing in mind. I'd still recommend talking things over with your imam, your dad clearly doesn't trust this site so you should get your dad talking to him.

    I do encourage you to continue to engage, to make a reasoned and well-supported argument and to take whatever steps you have at your disposal to try and make some progress. Please don't react with anger though, this is the exact sort of time and situation in which open displays of anger and frustration will immediately and predictably be interpreted by your parents as signs of extremism and cause for concern.

    Again, do talk to your imam with your dad, and it might be a good idea to make a point of checking in with him on an ongoing basis, when you happen to see him and as long as this is going on. As things continue to progress, it may be the case that you have to compromise on something in a way that you didn't really want to. Of course it's not what you wanted, but it may be that you have to. So you'll need a particular type of guidance in terms of negotiating a non-ideal situation.

    From your dad, it sounds like the extent of this guidance will be "You have to do this, now deal with it." But....how exactly, Islamically speaking?
    It well may be that the guidance you get from this forum is "You shouldn't have to do that. You really shouldn't. That's wrong, you shouldn't have to." But....you do. So what now?
    That's where your imam comes in. Even if he's not able to help you reverse direction- which you can ask him about, it's worth a shot- he's definitely going to be your best shot at having a neutral observer, who knows Islamic teaching quite well, who will most likely hear you out without judging you for being frustrated, and will help you find the most proper way forward even if you aren't able to get out of the class.

    If I were to hazard a guess, I would say your imam can probably come up with a better course of action than faking sickness. I'm not sure exactly what he would want to say to you, but I cannot imagine that he would tell you go ahead and fake sickness, that's the right idea, do exactly that. I don't see that happening.


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