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    Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

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    Salamun Alaykum,

    I'd like to revise in the masjid because sometimes prayer times are not that far apart, so i cba to go back home. Is this permissible?
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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Wa'alaikumsalam.

    As long as not inside the masjid hall, it's okay. You can use other areas of masjid like terrace or garden to continue your work. Many Muslims do this.

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Walaikum Asalaam

    As bro ardianto said, it's not permissible. You have to realize the mosque is a place of worship, away from secular activities. People go there to retreat from the world and put their remembrance in Allah. If you are not there to worship Allah, then do not sit there because it's disrespectful. You can study in places around the mosque, perhaps go to a nearby coffee shop or sit in your car lol, or actually take the time and make dhikr if the time between the salaahs are that short.
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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Wresting in masjid? anyone?

    I'm up for it

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Jazakamullahu khairan

    Our masjid doesn't have a garden but even if there was lol no way with how cold it is out here and masjid is so comfy too



    Also @*charisma* @ardianto what if my studies were deen related or with an intention that was 'islamic'/to please Allah SWT i.e: to earn enough to make hijrah, would that make a difference?

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    wait... who said you can't study math or science texts in a masjid?

    Doesn't the Qur'an encourage the reader to contemplate matters such as creation?

    Would the imams not be able to clarify the position of Islam in relation to the scientific enquiry of such ayaat?

    Who says you can't study other things in a masjid if they are beneficial?

    What nonsense is this?

    The masjid is a house of worship, and contemplating the creation in light of the Creator, is hugely beneficial in sterngthening imaan.

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    I've been trying to find an answer, and to be honest, I'm unsure about the answer I gave..may allah forgive me for having said something wrong :/. I don't know if you can or you can't...it seems as if you're not bothering the worshippers then you should be able to..but idle talk and things like that are disliked which is why I assumed studying worldly matters would be too. Wa allahu a'lem. I personally cannot give you a straight answer.
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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    Walaikum Asalaam

    As bro ardianto said, it's not permissible.
    I'll take issue with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    You have to realize the mosque is a place of worship, away from secular activities.
    I had no idea the pursuit of knowledge was a secular activity... I was under the impression that the pursuit of knowledge was recommended in Islam.

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    People go there to retreat from the world and put their remembrance in Allah. If you are not there to worship Allah, then do not sit there because it's disrespectful. You can study in places around the mosque, perhaps go to a nearby coffee shop or sit in your car lol, or actually take the time and make dhikr if the time between the salaahs are that short.
    That's one reason to go to a masjid.

    There are many.

    Such as, going to meet with your Muslim brothers and to have a halaqah about a social matter - are you sure you still want to promote ardianto's non islamic opinion?

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    I've been trying to find an answer, and to be honest, I'm unsure about the answer I gave..may allah forgive me for having said something wrong :/. I don't know if you can or you can't...it seems as if you're not bothering the worshippers then you should be able to..but idle talk and things like that are disliked which is why I assumed studying worldly matters would be too. Wa allahu a'lem. I personally cannot give you a straight answer.
    A masjid is a place of gathering, not just for the purpose of religious activity, but for social matters as well as matters of education, contemplation, planning and more.

    We, as an Ummah need to recognise that Allah has given us masjids for not only our spiritual well being but also our more physical reality - and the issues pertaining to these.

    For example, a Muslim wants to know if the scientific method employed by the west is actually practiced honestly? His interest being Science, and the his loyalty being Islam. In the modern age, they'd seem to be in direct conflict.

    But the imam can educate the seeker in understanding that a Muslim academic named Ibn Hatyhm perfected Ptolemy's model and removed the shirk from it to form the scientific method we have today, which, when practiced in truth will bring one closer to Allah and increase ones imaan.

    And then he can inform the seeker how, the scientific method practiced by atheist scientists is hugely flawed given the inductive fallacy they entertain.

    Ie: the atheist scientist is not conerned with the WHY, but only the HOW...

    ...where else would the seeker go to have his understanding augmented like this? The crazy internet?

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Not just that, but I just remembered that a local mosque would celebrate eid and people would gather together with their families, and eat etc. in the prayer rooms also there'd be noisy children around.. So in the process I'm sure these are "worldly things" that are allowed..studying I guess would be a lot less invasive to worshippers than carrying a celebration or noisy children..but allahu a'lem
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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Did you know it's a sunnah to wrestle in a masjid?

    But you have to be male

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeal View Post
    Also @*charisma* @ardianto what if my studies were deen related or with an intention that was 'islamic'/to please Allah SWT i.e: to earn enough to make hijrah, would that make a difference?
    Actually masjid hall can be used for other Islamic activities that not salah, like learn Qur'an, Islamic lecture, Islamic discussion, etc. But require permission from the masjid caretaker. So if the masjid caretaker allow you to wait salah time while reading Islamic book inside masjid, it's okay. But if the masjid caretaker disallow, yeah, you must wait in the nearest place.

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    are you sure you still want to promote ardianto's non islamic opinion?
    Hey, hey, the OP wrote "Worldly stuff", so I thought it's about learn match or make business plan. Of course activities like that should be done outside the masjid hall.

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    Hey, hey, the OP wrote "Worldly stuff", so I thought it's about learn match or make business plan. Of course activities like that should be done outside the masjid hall.
    Well,

    You can do worldly stuff in the masjid as long as its not haraam and isn't pragmatic (ie selling stuff for a profit)

    Who told you otherwise?

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    Well,

    You can do worldly stuff in the masjid as long as its not haraam and isn't pragmatic (ie selling stuff for a profit)

    Who told you otherwise?

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    There is etiquette in masjid, bro. Typing your laptop to discuss on IB is not haram. But do not do it inside the masjid hall because it violates etiquette in masjid.

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    There is etiquette in masjid, bro. Typing your laptop to discuss on IB is not haram. But do not do it inside the masjid hall because it violates etiquette in masjid.
    well,

    bro... if the masjid has wifi

    Bro, try and think a little before you post, jazakAllahu khair,

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Well I actually saw long time ago a lecture where Shiekh encouraged us to to our studies and revisions in the Masjid. I will try and find link for it when I have time iA.
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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Couldn´t it be the best if you contact to imam of your local masjid and ask this matter from him? There might be several different practices and rules in the masjids.
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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    Couldn´t it be the best if you contact to imam of your local masjid and ask this matter from him? There might be several different practices and rules in the masjids.
    that's a good point

    we're ready to assume all masjids are large and spacious with open courtyards... lol, well, not where I live

    I remember going to pray Jummah on Berwick Street in Soho when I was working there decades ago. The masjid was simply a floor of an apartment above a shop that sold questionable goods.

    Each friday, brothers would be so tightly packed in, that doing sujood meant being squashed into a sardine can... somehow, that actually felt really good. Like we were one body, in salaat.

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    Re: Can you do worldly stuff in the masjid?

    Sardine can hahahaha
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