Practicing Muslims?

**fschmidt** · 12-18-2016

Do you pray at least 3 times per day and not eat during daytime during Ramadan?

I am asking this because this seems like the minimum that a practicing Muslim would do. I am curious what percentage of Muslims actually practice this minimum.

**M.I.A.** · 12-18-2016

Originally Posted by noraina

True,

I just think it's ironic in that actions which are actually fardh (prayer, fasting, not drinking alcohol ect) are overlooked by some Muslims, who then justify it by calling themselves 'non-practising'. When actually these actions are what constitutes a Muslim's way of life - they should basically be a part of us.

We do kinda automatically categorise people, it's just when that categorisation is used as an excuse by others, and they seem to blame it on a self-fulfilling prophecy.

..self fulfilling prophecy.

ironically we only get what our own hands put forward.

although its complicated if your not willing to write yourself.

it is very difficult when most people can get away with anything..

simply because they are not here yet.

we are all things to all people.. for a time.

maybe "real" muslims struggle to read in modern civility.

...or not.

**muslim brother** · 12-18-2016

there are practicing muslims and non practicing

the emphasis should be on being accepted by allah

in other words to practice without arrogance and self righteousness

in history many a sinner has been saved by humility
and an active muslim rejected for his pride

also worship is many things ,not just praying and hajj etc
being a good neighbour and a contributing citizen too

in fact there should be more practice outside the home and mosque
unfortunately we dont see much in the home and mosque too

**drac16** · 12-18-2016

I don't fit that criteria. I don't practice that much. I'm going through a dark period in my spiritual life; I don't really know what I believe. I'm questioning everything.

**muslim brother** · 12-18-2016

Originally Posted by drac16

I don't fit that criteria. I don't practice that much. I'm going through a dark period in my spiritual life; I don't really know what I believe. I'm questioning everything.

dont worry brother,
sometimes it rains
sometimes sunshine
it is night,then day
the trees have leaves then they are bare
such is life
your not the first,surely wont be the last

go out to the countryside,it works for me
sometimes its good to be away from your fellow man
in the past seclusion was prescribed regularly
and many great ascetics have had doubts
just leave the door of your heart open

**fyi** · 12-18-2016

Originally Posted by M.I.A.

i dont pray on the regular just yet, i dont think my faith could handle it.

This sentence doesn't make sense at all.

**fyi** · 12-18-2016

Additionally for those who don't pray, you have no idea what kind of mistake you are making.
The reason your emaan/faith is so weak is because you are not praying 5 times a day. Praying 5 times a day is a goal for each day. I swear you will find so much easier to feel like muslim if you just pray 5 times a day. You don't have to pray the Sunnah prayers but once you start to pray you will feel this 'need' to pray the Sunnah aswell. You will start praying even more and wake up in middle of the night to pray Tahajjud. Trust me it all starts with waking up in the morning and praying fajr. Eventually you find yourself praying every single day and when u pray Witr in the night you get this feeling of reaching a checkpoint in your life, a huge achievement and you can take far more joy out of your sleep.

I say this as someone who started praying 2 years ago. Don't delay it, start now.

**anatolian** · 12-18-2016

Originally Posted by drac16

dark period

There is a sunshine after every darkness..Your questioning is from Rahmatullah..You'l become a stronger believer when you find the answers

**Delete.** · 12-19-2016

Originally Posted by fyi

Additionally for those who don't pray, you have no idea what kind of mistake you are making.
The reason your emaan/faith is so weak is because you are not praying 5 times a day. Praying 5 times a day is a goal for each day. I swear you will find so much easier to feel like muslim if you just pray 5 times a day. You don't have to pray the Sunnah prayers but once you start to pray you will feel this 'need' to pray the Sunnah aswell. You will start praying even more and wake up in middle of the night to pray Tahajjud. Trust me it all starts with waking up in the morning and praying fajr. Eventually you find yourself praying every single day and when u pray Witr in the night you get this feeling of reaching a checkpoint in your life, a huge achievement and you can take far more joy out of your sleep.

I say this as someone who started praying 2 years ago. Don't delay it, start now.

Just to add to this for my brothers and sisters, even if you feel no khushoo and you can't keep your concentration and you literally have to force yourself to pray for weeks or months, just keep praying. Don't give up your Salat for the world.

**M.I.A.** · 12-19-2016

Originally Posted by fyi

This sentence doesn't make sense at all.

well, thats why i dont open my mouth in public.

cos i just dont make sense.

you cant judge a book by its cover...

...although sometimes you can tell how thick it is looking from another angle.

I'm obviously kidding, thickness is something that allah swt has decided upon.

maybe the thread should be titled successful and non successful?

**noraina** · 12-19-2016

Originally Posted by ___

Just to add to this for my brothers and sisters, even if you feel no khushoo and you can't keep your concentration and you literally have to force yourself to pray for weeks or months, just keep praying. Don't give up your Salat for the world.

Exactly this. Even if you feel your iman slipping or falling now, do not give up your salah for *anything*. Force your heart into prayer and one day it'll be your heart pulling you to read salah, inshaAllah.

**Kawlah** · 10-19-2017

Salaam Ale3koem,

Yes I pray 5 times a day and always have when practicing. Fasting during Ramadan is currently not required of me (even dangerous) due to my illness, but I will/would fast when it ceases to be dangerous.

And I try to fulfill as many other fardh and sunnah requirements as I can, such as wearing Hijab.

**truthseeker63** · 10-19-2017

WS I have a Muslim Friend that live in Holland.

**M.I.A.** · 10-19-2017

Originally Posted by M.I.A.

well, thats why i dont open my mouth in public.

cos i just dont make sense.

you cant judge a book by its cover...

...although sometimes you can tell how thick it is looking from another angle.

I'm obviously kidding, thickness is something that allah swt has decided upon.

maybe the thread should be titled successful and non successful?

Ok so i dont pray regularly. There you go..i aint ever going to be a politician.

Im becoming exceptional at deluding myself.

It would seem, that much of what i right is just an excuse.

..its ok though, im meeting people that pray.. on the regular.

Also posting a link soon...

The Secret to Islamic Success - Night Prayers (Tahajud) - Shiekh Ahmad Musa Jibril

Worth the time.. and an entirely relevant response and rebuttle towards my pov.

Literally as posted..

Its raining bad here and a man fell outside.

He had a case of pepsi and the cans went everywhere..

He was helped up by someone and i gave him a couple bags for his cans.

..he said..

It was bound to happen at some point..

You know why?

Because i didn't pray my isha last night.

Now..

I dont lie..

But i hate telling the truth.

This place is over for me.. upset myself lol..

Felt like cryin for a moment.

Originally Posted by fyi

This sentence doesn't make sense at all.

..you may or may not get used to it.

Seven thirty.

Itd been an interesting day so il go on.. because i dont have money for a blog spot.

Just had a brother come in asking for 5 pounds.. hes worked in the area before.

I said i dont have anything..and the money in the till isnt mine.

..but i asked him if he was ok and why he needed it.

He said its the sunnah of the prophet pbuh to give an asking brother.

..he said he just asked because he has intention of going mecca.. and is asking all people as he walks the street.

..i ask him what hes been doing since the last time i saw him.

He says he is having problems and that his family.. they know what he does and what he doesnt do..and he doesnt get on there..

I ask him if he has been on jamat.. because we have many mosques and it is common to to give and recieve groups.

He says that they go with the wrong intention.. only to increase and to look for rizq.

...he starts getting angry and hitting his finger on my glass cabinets.

I get twitchy.. legs and hands shaking..

Please everything here is made of glass.

He says when it breaks it is by the will of allah swt.

I would like to think about this but i feel my hands and feet....

He says the people around here have no iman.

..i say, there must be a middle way.

He says there is.. it is to mecca.

He keeps hitting is finger on the glass.. harder than any person should.

I ask him how old he is.. 23 he says..

I tell him im 36.. i want to tell him about where iv been..

Customers walk in.

He says he will wait and i should serve the person but it takes a while and he shakes my hand and leaves.

..its very hard when you cant leave.

I dont think the people are bad..

I just think many cant leave..

I get a few customers and its back to sitting on my backside.

..i think im still shakin.

I feel bad..

I learn the value of restraint and respecting the property of others.

If they see me like that.. then there is no point in being here.

Just taking it one day at a time.

Maintaining heat is hard.. although i really dont like being warmed up.

I will get back to praying.

..i did in the past.. and hope to in the future..

Guaranteed you will judge me today though..
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Nearly all i meet are practicing muslims.

..infact i get less problems from non muslims!

**truthseeker63** · 10-19-2017

WS I have a Muslim Friend.

**crimsontide06** · 10-19-2017

Why is the question "3" times? Muslims pray 5 times a day..

**fschmidt** · 10-19-2017

Originally Posted by crimsontide06

Why is the question "3" times? Muslims pray 5 times a day..

Some Muslims claim that 3 times is enough. I am not interested in arguing about Islamic theology, so I picked the lowest number.

**mslm** · 10-19-2017

There's little meaningful discussion to be had on this topic because numerous Hadith make clear that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) prayed 5 times a day, and so did all of his companions. If there were any variations down the line, whether that happened 10 years after the Prophet's death or in modern times ~1400+ years later, those who committed to those variations deviated from a way prescribed by Allah (the last Prophet (PBUH) did not invent the 5-times-a-day prayer arbitrarily, this was sent down). Once you purposely deviate from the way prescribed by Allah, that's equivalent to disbelief, because if you really believed, you wouldn't deviate -- it's straightforward.

**Kawlah** · 10-20-2017

Originally Posted by mslm

There's little meaningful discussion to be had on this topic because numerous Hadith make clear that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) prayed 5 times a day, and so did all of his companions. If there were any variations down the line, whether that happened 10 years after the Prophet's death or in modern times ~1400+ years later, those who committed to those variations deviated from a way prescribed by Allah (the last Prophet (PBUH) did not invent the 5-times-a-day prayer arbitrarily, this was sent down). Once you purposely deviate from the way prescribed by Allah, that's equivalent to disbelief, because if you really believed, you wouldn't deviate -- it's straightforward.

Exactly.

This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed my favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion. Qur'an, 5:3

**truthseeker63** · 10-20-2017

WS I have a Muslim Friend that live in Holland he drinks but I view him as a Muslim Brother I'm a Revert he was born or raised Muslim but I still talk to him is this wrong I know I should advise but I can not force people to stop sinning ?

**M.I.A.** · 10-20-2017

It depends on if the sins they commit affect you.

Lol..

Worth thinking about.

Although worthless..
..
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Have you seen the one..

That takes his own desires to be god?

would you then be responsible for him? (LOOSELY PARAPHRASED)

...IN MOST CASES, I WISH I COULD JUST SHOUT..

GET YOUR DAMNED HANDS OF ME YOU FREELOADING T"@TS.

Unfortunately i dont know how to.

..allah swt raises and lowers as he wills.
..
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Most people eat too much..

If you dont have enough.. then you will be seeing a lot more of them.

...but they religious n that.

..N always on the phone.

You might want to take a look at the, letters of the prophet (pbuh) thread..

Insightful..

Honestly sometimes i think i was sent to this place to die..

Because it wasnt be choice.

Im not even here for the money lol..

Im developing a good memory so i wont forget for a while yet..

Might take it to the grave with me..

So much for anyone rebuilding walls for me.
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I have no right to ask them why they do the things they do.

...and i should have prayed more i suppose..

Its free innit?

...in this world you dont sell the things you display..

You sell yourselves.

Honestly its not that i dislike people..

I just dont like the ones that turn up on my family members.

Wont forget..

Although would run away if i could.

Its the duality of wanting to write better for yourself..

And not coveting your own soul.