REPENTED FROM STEALING!??urgent help

At the time i use to steal (last time i stole from a shop was 3-4 years ago)i was major sinner use to commit all kinds of major sins.. never prayed or kept fasts (may allah forgive me and guide me)

im only exposing my sins because you cannot see me... because i learnt you should not expose sins...

Anyways Now that im practising ive started praying salah in the masjid 4-5 times a day considering i have no job .. so i have no excuse and i actually love praying in the masjid it brings me inner peace... im reading quran in english to learn about my deen... reading sahih al bukahri hadiths etc... overall trying to become a better muslim

but this is one of the things that makes me sleepless at nights because that person died a martyr and went hell for ONE thing he stole and i stole so many things

format_quote Originally Posted by Butterfly

I don't know how to edit my post from mobile.

I wanted to clarify that some scholars say that prayer is what distinguishes a Muslim from a kaafir. in my previous post I typed "if you are not regular with your prayers" this statement infers that one prays at times and doesn't at other times. What I should have typed is if one doesn't pray at all.

I'm sorry if I confused you.

I'll leave it to the more knowledgeable to answer such questions.

My other reply was to you soz

format_quote Originally Posted by talibilm

loosing hope on the mercy of Allah is like a shirk and a trait of Mushrik The biggest unforgivable sin if we die without repentance and shahada. So never loose hope on mercy of Allah , the incomparable Ar Rahman . Al Ghafoor

Do taubatun nasuha or sincere repentance which involves remorse with tears, vowing not to do that sin again & reading isthigfar and try as much as possible to reimburse those whom you had wronged . So do as best as you can as above posts say.

May the knowledgeable post more or find a fatwa regarding this.

I understand you should not lose hope in allah and i have not lost hope in the sense that he would forgive my sins regarding mine and his rights ... but someone i stole from its their right and they have to forgive me first in order for allah to forgive me...

So i get abit sleepless because there is no gurantee who ever i have wronged will forgive me on the day of judgement

format_quote Originally Posted by Slaveofthelord

Hi guys

so basically i was never a practicing Muslim until i turned 20 like to 2 months ago... when i was younger i use to steal stuff from shops sometimes and now i deeply regret it after reading this



And Muslim (114) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab told me: On the day of Khaybar, a group of the companions of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) came and said: So and so has been martyred, So and so has been martyred, until they came to a man and said, So and so has been martyred, but the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No. I saw him in the Fire because of a cloak or abayah that he stole from the war booty.

i have actually went back to a small shop which i stole something from (worth £2 roughly) after 5 years and gave the shop owner £5 and apologized and he said its fine he asked how much i just said keep all of it.

will allah forgive me if i die without paying back who ever i have stolen from... thing is i use to steal stuff from mainstream shops in the mall and i cannot remember the worth of what i use to steal and i cant just go to for example "BOOTS" pharmacy and say i owe you £50 because i stole from you... i might even go to prison.


i feel like im going to hell since this martyr died for allah in battle but still went hell for a clothe he stole, and i stole way more than that.

IS THERE ANY HOPE FOR ME???

Asalaamualaykum:

Rectifying a bad deed is itself a good deed.
Alhumdullila you have paid back what you could. Im understanding that you are most probably in the UK since you have mentioned the BOOTS Store.
The solution to rectifying this theft issue is not very simple as BOOTS is actually on the stock market and have many investors - so effectively, you have stolen from more than one person. To rectify this action you will need to consider the following:

1.
I the UK, a minor offence is deleted after 5 years from the database. Should you actually return the money, they cannot really imprison you especially that you owned up to a minor offence.

2. Because you have stolen from a company on the stock market, even if you return the money - where would that money actually go ? They don't exactly have a "Theft returns" sub account. Im not encouraging not rectifying the bad deed here - what I am simply explaining that should you return Cash or cheque - They don't exactly have a account to deposit that into.

My suggestion here is that since you are basically £50( You can estimate the true value) richer than you would have been (irrespective of the time that elapsed), you need to come up a return policy. You certainly cannot give that money as part of Zakaath/Lillah or Sadaqa as that would be promoting the usage of theft money in charity, so...If I were you I will find a charity that non faith based, Example (School for the Blind/Deaf Etc) and give the money to them.

* You must understand that I not discouraging the return of stolen money here - but If the returning of the money to a business/organisation that lacks the mechanism to actually get the money to the rightful owner, then that will create a paradox. (Especially in the Boots case whereby they on the stock market and have multiple share-holders and investors)

I obviously dont have to elaborate on the importance of repentance to Allah SWT.

Wasalaam.

brother best is go to the police and say 'ive stolen from there and there; if they forgive you [which they probably will as there is no evidence; then the matter is done with!

real repentence is to be willing to face the consequences too, so dont be afraid of prison but most likely there wont be any

format_quote Originally Posted by samirbrazendale

Asalaamualaykum:

Rectifying a bad deed is itself a good deed.
Alhumdullila you have paid back what you could. Im understanding that you are most probably in the UK since you have mentioned the BOOTS Store.
The solution to rectifying this theft issue is not very simple as BOOTS is actually on the stock market and have many investors - so effectively, you have stolen from more than one person. To rectify this action you will need to consider the following:

1.
I the UK, a minor offence is deleted after 5 years from the database. Should you actually return the money, they cannot really imprison you especially that you owned up to a minor offence.

2. Because you have stolen from a company on the stock market, even if you return the money - where would that money actually go ? They don't exactly have a "Theft returns" sub account. Im not encouraging not rectifying the bad deed here - what I am simply explaining that should you return Cash or cheque - They don't exactly have a account to deposit that into.

My suggestion here is that since you are basically £50( You can estimate the true value) richer than you would have been (irrespective of the time that elapsed), you need to come up a return policy. You certainly cannot give that money as part of Zakaath/Lillah or Sadaqa as that would be promoting the usage of theft money in charity, so...If I were you I will find a charity that non faith based, Example (School for the Blind/Deaf Etc) and give the money to them.

* You must understand that I not discouraging the return of stolen money here - but If the returning of the money to a business/organisation that lacks the mechanism to actually get the money to the rightful owner, then that will create a paradox. (Especially in the Boots case whereby they on the stock market and have multiple share-holders and investors)

I obviously dont have to elaborate on the importance of repentance to Allah SWT.

Wasalaam.

Thank you for your in depth reply, i have one idea i have consideref myself which was.. lets say for e.g i go to boots and i pay for a item worth £50 then on the way out i leave that item worth £50 back on the shelves so that i have done my part in paying back the company i stole from?

Is that a good or bad idea

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.
But if the thief repents after his crime, and amends his conduct, Allah turneth to him in forgiveness; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Qur'an 5:38-39
So clearly the Qur'an does say to cut a thief's hands, but this is only one verse. Additionally verse 39 states that if the thief repents, Allah forgives them (and it is implied that no punishment should be incured). Lastly, if we are going to correctly apply Qur'anic Law, we need to understand the whole instead of the single.

Punishments and Proportionality
The Qur'an only lays down 3 punishments, for 3 crimes in it's entire 114 chapters. This is one of those crimes/punishments. However in multiple other parts of the Qur'an, we are begged and reminded to only apply punishments that are equal to the crime:
And if ye do catch them out, catch them out no worse than they catch you out: But if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient.
Qur'an 16:126
The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah: for (Allah) loveth not those who do wrong.
Qur'an 42:40
Therefore, it is evident from the above verses that the Qur'an prescribes law of equivalence in all punishments.

Compensation for the crime
In Islam, the victims or the family of the victims are given option to claim compensation for the crimes committed against them. This is an important feature of criminal law in Islam.

Let's consider the case of murder in Qur'an, which is a worse crime than stealing. There are two earthly punishments. Verse 4:92 deals with a believer's accidental killing. Neither capital punishment nor jail are involved. However, he has to pay a blood money to the family of the deceased unless it is remitted freely by them. Verse 2:178 deals with the second case when someone meant the killing. This...........

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One sees the logic in such an exemplary punishnent - since productivity would dwindle and "dog eat dog" mentality would increase in a society where people or their forefathers worked hard with their hands and earned things only for others to psychologically and financially harm and deprive them of the halal rizq which Allah alloted to them.
However - if a person repents from sins and towards Allah of their own free-will or is willingly forgiven by the owner of the goods, there appears to be much room for amnesty.
The person who stole the cloak appears to have died in a state of opposition to Allah and His messenger and was stealing from goods which belonged to people who had just risked their lives to support truth and justice as defined by Allah who is the best judge, your situation appears to be very different from the stealer from ghanaim (spoils) who died in that state of corruption.
Anyways, since you have turned to the truth and are trying to walk aright according to the guidance of Allah, there is no "exemplary punishment" in such case and there is no social benefit in cutting off your hands, since the punishment is a strong and wise deterent.
Also you were living in a society ignorant of the commands of Allah read jafar ibn abi taalib's speech to an-najaashi, and umar ibn al khattaab's confessions about shirk and infanticide in jaahiliyyah) and you have sought to walk aright so you should put it all behind you and strive hard in Allah's cause as an atonement. I dunno if you need to return anything to zuaalimoon who consciously refuse to accept the guidance of Allah and are at war with God and His messenger, but if they were people who accept the guidance and laws of Allah (the Creator of the heavens and the earth who has no partner or equivalent) and seek to walk along Allah's straight path, there is good reason to wonder how culpable you may be and should do what you can to make islaah in the best way possible, even if it means you can no longer find them and decide to atone by giving in sadaqah on their behalf - or on your behalf so that you can use the credits to reimburse them on the day of judgement - still - you don't know how much hurt or inconvenience you caused them so you shouldn't feel secure even if you paid ten times the amount. Good to give in humility with hope and fear.

If a just judge is convinced that you have repented and sees that you are unable to reimburse, there are possibly ways of even reimbursing the wronged from bait al maal for the sake of justice (freeing the prisoners clause).
And Allah knows best.

Thank you for your in depth reply, i have one idea i have consideref myself which was.. lets say i stole £50 worthbof stuff from boots and for e.g i go to boots and i pay for a item worth £50 then on the way out i leave that item worth £50 back on the shelves

so that i have done my part in paying back the company i stole from?

Is that a good or bad idea

format_quote Originally Posted by Slaveofthelord

Thank you for your in depth reply, i have one idea i have consideref myself which was.. lets say for e.g i go to boots and i pay for a item worth £50 then on the way out i leave that item worth £50 back on the shelves so that i have done my part in paying back the company i stole from?

Is that a good or bad idea

Asalaamualaykum

I was going to suggest that initially but after some thought i dont think its a good idea because CCTV cameras might get you on leaving an "item" in the store...and you know where that all goes !

Please remember that you should be proud of yourself here because the very fact that you are trying to rectify this, is in itself part of the Istighfaraa.
Most people today won't even try to do that - MashAllah.

I still think that dispensing that value to a charity will be the safest option.

I'm sure you have learnt your lesson.

format_quote Originally Posted by samirbrazendale

Asalaamualaykum

I was going to suggest that initially but after some thought i dont think its a good idea because CCTV cameras might get you on leaving an "item" in the store...and you know where that all goes !

Please remember that you should be proud of yourself here because the very fact that you are trying to rectify this, is in itself part of the Istighfaraa.
Most people today won't even try to do that - MashAllah.

I still think that dispensing that value to a charity will be the safest option.

I'm sure you have learnt your lesson.

Wa alikum asalam

Thing is if im going to give it to charity, my mum has done that on my behalf already.

I told my mum about this few years ago and i gave her a estimate of how much worth i stole and she gave OVER the amount i stole to charity in the name of who ever i stole from.

but i think most likely she gave it to a muslim charity and not a kufar charity

So since my mum already donated to charity in the name of whoever i stole should i still donate again? To a non muslim charity?

format_quote Originally Posted by Slaveofthelord

Wa alikum asalam

Thing is if im going to give it to charity, my mum has done that on my behalf already.

I told my mum about this few years ago and i gave her a estimate of how much worth i stole and she gave OVER the amount i stole to charity in the name of who ever i stole from.

but i think most likely she gave it to a muslim charity and not a kufar charity

So since my mum already donated to charity in the name of whoever i stole should i still donate again? To a non muslim charity?

Asalaamualaykum
If your mother paid from her pocket to a muslim or non-muslim charity, that doesnt solve the problem at all. (In fact, in many ways it just encouraged the problem to being repeated). Obviously she has done that with a good heart - but what has that thought you ?

The primary principle in this matter is that you have gained from that theft and hence it is your responsibility to repay that. Also take into account that i brought the topic of the multiple owners.

The issue here is one of Taqwa rather than Maslaail.

It would be in your best interest to earn the money in a Halaal way and dispense it accordingly.

Do not discuss it with your mother, that will open up another uninvited problem (Allah SWT will inshAllah will reward her for action) - Just earn the money and repay it.

format_quote Originally Posted by samirbrazendale

Asalaamualaykum
If your mother paid from her pocket to a muslim or non-muslim charity, that doesnt solve the problem at all. (In fact, in many ways it just encouraged the problem to being repeated). Obviously she has done that with a good heart - but what has that thought you ?

The primary principle in this matter is that you have gained from that theft and hence it is your responsibility to repay that. Also take into account that i brought the topic of the multiple owners.

The issue here is one of Taqwa rather than Maslaail.

It would be in your best interest to earn the money in a Halaal way and dispense it accordingly.

Do not discuss it with your mother, that will open up another uninvited problem (Allah SWT will inshAllah will reward her for action) - Just earn the money and repay it.

Thank your for your advise, i will do what you said... earn the money equivilant to how much i stole from those shops... then repay it back myself with the money i earnt to a charity that is non faith related.

Also when i give the money to the chairty to shall i say this as my intention to allah before paying...

"oh allah i am donating this money for whomever i have stolen from in hope that this will reach them on the day of judgement... so that i do not get punished in the hell fire or have my good deeds taken by them or receive any of their bad deeds on the day of judgement"

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

If your mother pays willingly on your behalf considering your limited means then she has paid on your behalf, otherwise hajj, fasting, sadaqah, and other virtuous deeds on behalf of others would have been forbidden, ( search hajj badal and/or hadith fasting behalf and/or blood money / ad-diyat) the good that someone does and the goodwill that someone shows on another's behalf is a shifa'a (search: hadith funeral procession wajabah ) I.e intercession before Allah.

Still, if you pay it yourself with your money, whether it be from your labour or inheritance, you would probably please Allah more since your jihad is stronger and your remorse is likely more sincere.
If you do decide to give in sadaqah on behalf of yourself or others, it is good to give it to those who are needy and are likely to do good in Allah's sight and show gratitude to Allah, maybe some of those countries whose people are deprived of good wholesome food, nutrients, essential medication and a decent standard of living due to unjust sanctions and others in similar situations through the tests that Allah has laid upon the sufferers and the able to assist observers.


Bear in mind that if a few people steal from a person and they end up having financial problems, family disputes, getting agitated or depressed, closing their store, or spending thousands on security, or losing customers through treating them with suspicion -returning the amount stolen later might not be the same since each deed is a game-changer, it is better to do what good one can in humility with fear and hope - fearing Allah and the day - the evil of which flies far and wide.

To other posters, it is better to provide information without telling people that their repentance is not accepted without any basis.
Someone might switch on them like that guy who did 99 murders and repented.

Thanks for the reply akhi, appreciate it i guess i will just pay it back off with my money aswel on top just to get a better peace of mind ... ever since i became god consious and god fearing hell is the last place i want to go to...

Stealing is wrong and one should repent and refrain from it. However, it is not the same as stealing from war booty, which is a lot more serious matter and the hadith you shared is about stealing from war booty.