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    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم


    Respected Muslims be careful:


    Your Deen (Religion) starts with the Aqeedah (Faith) of Tawheed, this is the bases /the Foundation.
    Al-Tawheed ( pronounced as At-Tawheed) means to believe in the Absolute Oneness of God “Allah”. So becareful not to fall in any type of shirk ( associating anything or anyone with Allah in God-hood or Lord-ship).
    Tawheed is a very delicate matter. Allah said in surah Al-Baqrah verse 22 (its translation is):


    (2:22) It is He Who has made the earth a resting-place for you, and the sky a canopy, and sent down water from above wherewith He brought forth fruits for your sustenance.
    Do not, then, set up rivals23 to Allah when you know (the Truth).


    Exp.note 23:



    23. That is, when man recognizes that all those things were done by none but God, then worship, devotion and service must be exclusively for Him. For who besides the Creator can legitimately claim these things from man?


    Not to set up others as rivals to Allah means not to make anyone other than God the object of worship, service and obedience that one owes to God alone. Later on we shall see, in some detail, how the Qur'an itself specifies the forms of worship and service which we owe exclusively to God, and wherein associating anyone else amounts to shirk (associating others with God in His divinity). This, the Qur'an seeks to eradicate.
    ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ******************


    [Ibn `Abbas (ra) said, concerning this verse: "Al-Andaad means Shirk which is less conspicuous than a black ant crawling on a black stone in the darkness of the night, such as the saying: "By Allah and by your life, oh so-and-so!" or: "By your life," or: "If it had not been for this little dog, the burglars would have come to us," or "Had it not been for the duck in the house, the burglars would have come," or like a man's saying to his companion: "By Allah's and your will..." or: "As Allah and you will," or the saying of a man: "Had it not been for Allah and so-and-so..." - Do not mention anyone with Allah , because all of this is Shirk." (Narrated by Ibn Abi Hatim)]
    ************************************************** *****************


    The danger of the word “andaad” (equal) can be understood by the above mentioned hadeeth which told us that it is like a black ant on a black rock moving towards you in the darkness of the night. An example of this kind of shirk (making something equal to God) is:


    Some thieves enter a house at night. A dog in the house starts barking or some ducks start making noise, so the owners of the house wake up and the thieves run away. Then the owners say;


    If this dog was not here (or they say; if the ducks were not here), the thieves would succeed. Thus they proclaim that they were protected from the thieves by the dog or ducks. They did shirk as in reality Allah (the All-Mighty God) protected them but made the dog or ducks a cause for their protection. But their faith became wrong as they made the dog / ducks andaad (equal to All-Mighty God).
    So we all must be very careful about the Tawheed of Allah in all cases.

    For more details see kitaab At-Tawheed: chapter 40.



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    I never knew about this. What about if I did this, what can I do?
    Respected Muslims: Be careful

    He is Allah, other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him [59:23]




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    Re: Respected Muslims: Be careful

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaqib View Post
    I never knew about this. What about if I did this, what can I do?
    Trust in Allah above all when you use physical lawful (halal) precautionary means.
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    Re: Respected Muslims: Be careful

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaqib View Post
    I never knew about this. What about if I did this, what can I do?

    The Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam was asked similar question. He salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam advised to say the following du'aa thrice daily:

    اللهم إني أعوذبك من أن أشرك بك شيئاً و أنا اعلم به و استغفرك لما لا اعلم به



    It means:


    Ya Allah, I seek Your Refuge from associating anything with You knowingly, and do astaghfaar to You regarding that [shirk] which I am unaware of [which I committed unknowingly].
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    Re: Respected Muslims: Be careful

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    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم


    Respected Muslims be careful:


    Your Deen (Religion) starts with the Aqeedah (Faith) of Tawheed, this is the bases /the Foundation.
    Al-Tawheed ( pronounced as At-Tawheed) means to believe in the Absolute Oneness of God “Allah”. So becareful not to fall in any type of shirk ( associating anything or anyone with Allah in God-hood or Lord-ship).
    Tawheed is a very delicate matter. Allah said in surah Al-Baqrah verse 22 (its translation is):


    (2:22) It is He Who has made the earth a resting-place for you, and the sky a canopy, and sent down water from above wherewith He brought forth fruits for your sustenance.
    Do not, then, set up rivals23 to Allah when you know (the Truth).


    Exp.note 23:



    23. That is, when man recognizes that all those things were done by none but God, then worship, devotion and service must be exclusively for Him. For who besides the Creator can legitimately claim these things from man?


    Not to set up others as rivals to Allah means not to make anyone other than God the object of worship, service and obedience that one owes to God alone. Later on we shall see, in some detail, how the Qur'an itself specifies the forms of worship and service which we owe exclusively to God, and wherein associating anyone else amounts to shirk (associating others with God in His divinity). This, the Qur'an seeks to eradicate.
    ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ******************


    [Ibn `Abbas (ra) said, concerning this verse: "Al-Andaad means Shirk which is less conspicuous than a black ant crawling on a black stone in the darkness of the night, such as the saying: "By Allah and by your life, oh so-and-so!" or: "By your life," or: "If it had not been for this little dog, the burglars would have come to us," or "Had it not been for the duck in the house, the burglars would have come," or like a man's saying to his companion: "By Allah's and your will..." or: "As Allah and you will," or the saying of a man: "Had it not been for Allah and so-and-so..." - Do not mention anyone with Allah , because all of this is Shirk." (Narrated by Ibn Abi Hatim)]
    ************************************************** *****************


    The danger of the word “andaad” (equal) can be understood by the above mentioned hadeeth which told us that it is like a black ant on a black rock moving towards you in the darkness of the night. An example of this kind of shirk (making something equal to God) is:


    Some thieves enter a house at night. A dog in the house starts barking or some ducks start making noise, so the owners of the house wake up and the thieves run away. Then the owners say;


    If this dog was not here (or they say; if the ducks were not here), the thieves would succeed. Thus they proclaim that they were protected from the thieves by the dog or ducks. They did shirk as in reality Allah (the All-Mighty God) protected them but made the dog or ducks a cause for their protection. But their faith became wrong as they made the dog / ducks andaad (equal to All-Mighty God).
    So we all must be very careful about the Tawheed of Allah in all cases.

    For more details see kitaab At-Tawheed: chapter 40.



    What would say about omar r.a when he said to people tht
    لو لا علي لهلك عمر؟؟؟
    Respected Muslims: Be careful

    قال النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم:*الـحياءُ شُعْبَةٌ مِنَ الاِيِمَانِ*
    و قال ايضا:*الحياء لاياتى الا بخير
    و قال ايضا:*اذا لم تستحي،فاصنع ما شئت*

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    فصيح الياسين;2971987]Whatwould say about omar r.a when he said to people tht
    لو لا علي لهلك عمر؟؟؟

    Assalaamo alaikum warahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

    You shouldn't believe such statements about those great sahaabah radiyallaho anhum. Shiyah sect has invented many false statements. They have attacked Tawheed in many ways. They have gone far away from Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. This sentence:

    لو لا علي لهلك عمر؟؟؟
    May be their invention.

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    The companions weren't free from error, but they'd usually be cautious enough to say: if it hadn't been by Allah's grace /mercy/bounty that........

    and Allah advises us to say " inshaAllah" when we remember if we happen to forget.

    a bit like saying: "lucky i came in on time when the child climbed onto the cupboard" and then remembering to say: " it was by Allah's grace that i got there on time to stop him falling", and then remembering that Allah could have saved him without you as the means, so that too doesn't necessarily hold true, but not be so fatalistic that you don't bother within your lawful means.

    When 'Umar Was commended for having assisted so many people during the famine, he is reported to have disagreed and said something along the lines of: " it was with the money of the Muslim ummah and not Khattaab's ('Umar's dad's) money ok?"
    but then i thought, even if it was the money which 'Umar inherited, it was still by Allah's grace.

    so it's not shirk if the intention is correct with Allah and a person has already reached the level where they already know that all good is from Allah, but it's good to keep in mind that praise is due to Allah for all blessings and bounties, and humans should say "may Allah reward you with good" for good actions where it applies, And encourage each other to good by commending them for a good action if necessary.

    say if i give a needy person some money, if my intention is correct, i will get angry at him for overpraising me, and smile and be very pleased with him if he thanks Allah, and be happy for myself if he says "may Allah reward you with good" and or prays for me. If I'm very young or my imaan is weak, or i'm uncertain whether what i did was right or wierd, it may be necessary for someone to give me an encouraging smile or even say: i think what you did there was commendable, but remember that it was because Allah gave you the ability to do so.

    And Allah knows best.



    وَلَوْلَا أَن تُصِيبَهُم مُّصِيبَةٌ بِمَا قَدَّمَتْ أَيْدِيهِمْ فَيَقُولُوا رَبَّنَا لَوْلَا أَرْسَلْتَ إِلَيْنَا رَسُولًا فَنَتَّبِعَ آيَاتِكَ وَنَكُونَ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ

    {47 If (We had) not (sent thee to the Quraish),- in case a calamity should seize them for (the deeds) that their hands have sent forth, they might say: "Our Lord! why didst Thou not sent us a messenger? We should then have followed Thy Signs and been amongst those who believe!"
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    Re: Respected Muslims: Be careful

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    Assalaamo alaikum warahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

    You shouldn't believe such statements about those great sahaabah radiyallaho anhum. Shiyah sect has invented many false statements. They have attacked Tawheed in many ways. They have gone far away from Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. This sentence:

    لو لا علي لهلك عمر؟؟؟
    May be their invention.

    Hahaha no its not from them its from our fiqha and long story short this sentence then told by.omar and written in every book of nahw in last chapters of حروف غير عامل
    Respected Muslims: Be careful

    قال النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم:*الـحياءُ شُعْبَةٌ مِنَ الاِيِمَانِ*
    و قال ايضا:*الحياء لاياتى الا بخير
    و قال ايضا:*اذا لم تستحي،فاصنع ما شئت*

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    Quote Originally Posted by فصيح الياسين View Post
    Hahaha no its not from them its from our fiqha and long story short this sentence then told by.omar and written in every book of nahw in last chapters of حروف غير عامل

    I have given a hadeeth of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam and I, myself, strictly follow Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam because we will be questioned about our obedience to him. Anyone who wants to reject his saying, will do it to his own loss.

    You must explain the meaning of the chapter of huroofi-gher-aamil.

    This is very much possible that in the context in which those words of Umar rAa are mentioned, would have other words to keep away from shirk. So it is important to bring the whole story to see how was Umar rAa saved by Ali rAa and then what were the exact words that Umar rAa said??? Also the exact translation must be mentioned or the story must be mentioned as it is in Arabic. Making the story short and bringing out only one sentence out of the context may give wrong meaning or misunderstanding about the situation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post
    The companions weren't free from error, but they'd usually be cautious enough to say: if it hadn't been by Allah's grace /mercy/bounty that........

    and Allah advises us to say " inshaAllah" when we remember if we happen to forget.

    a bit like saying: "lucky i came in on time when the child climbed onto the cupboard" and then remembering to say: " it was by Allah's grace that i got there on time to stop him falling", and then remembering that Allah could have saved him without you as the means, so that too doesn't necessarily hold true, but not be so fatalistic that you don't bother within your lawful means.

    When 'Umar Was commended for having assisted so many people during the famine, he is reported to have disagreed and said something along the lines of: " it was with the money of the Muslim ummah and not Khattaab's ('Umar's dad's) money ok?"
    but then i thought, even if it was the money which 'Umar inherited, it was still by Allah's grace.

    so it's not shirk if the intention is correct with Allah and a person has already reached the level where they already know that all good is from Allah, but it's good to keep in mind that praise is due to Allah for all blessings and bounties, and humans should say "may Allah reward you with good" for good actions where it applies, And encourage each other to good by commending them for a good action if necessary.

    say if i give a needy person some money, if my intention is correct, i will get angry at him for overpraising me, and smile and be very pleased with him if he thanks Allah, and be happy for myself if he says "may Allah reward you with good" and or prays for me. If I'm very young or my imaan is weak, or i'm uncertain whether what i did was right or wierd, it may be necessary for someone to give me an encouraging smile or even say: i think what you did there was commendable, but remember that it was because Allah gave you the ability to do so.

    And Allah knows best.



    وَلَوْلَا أَن تُصِيبَهُم مُّصِيبَةٌ بِمَا قَدَّمَتْ أَيْدِيهِمْ فَيَقُولُوا رَبَّنَا لَوْلَا أَرْسَلْتَ إِلَيْنَا رَسُولًا فَنَتَّبِعَ آيَاتِكَ وَنَكُونَ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ

    {47 If (We had) not (sent thee to the Quraish),- in case a calamity should seize them for (the deeds) that their hands have sent forth, they might say: "Our Lord! why didst Thou not sent us a messenger? We should then have followed Thy Signs and been amongst those who believe!"


    The explanation is good, jazaak-Allaho khera. But the saying of someone that "he spent people's money" is not shirk.

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    I have given a hadeeth of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam and I, myself, strictly follow Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam because we will be questioned about our obedience to him. Anyone who wants to reject his saying, will do it to his own loss.

    You must explain the meaning of the chapter of huroofi-gher-aamil.

    This is very much possible that in the context in which those words of Umar rAa are mentioned, would have other words to keep away from shirk. So it is important to bring the whole story to see how was Umar rAa saved by Ali rAa and then what were the exact words that Umar rAa said??? Also the exact translation must be mentioned or the story must be mentioned as it is in Arabic. Making the story short and bringing out only one sentence out of the context may give wrong meaning or misunderstanding about the situation.


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    The explanation is good, jazaak-Allaho khera. But the saying of someone that "he spent people's money" is not shirk.
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    قال النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم:*الـحياءُ شُعْبَةٌ مِنَ الاِيِمَانِ*
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    Following the elders and forefathers


    Allah Azzh wa Jall said in surah Al-Baqarah verse 170, its translation is:


    (2:170) And when they are told: “Follow what Allah has revealed,” they say: “No, we shall follow what we found our forefathers adhering to.”
    168 What! Even if their forefathers were devoid of understanding and right guidance?


    Exp. note 168:



    168. The only possible argument and justification for these taboos was that they had been sanctified by the practice of their forefathers from whom they had allegedly come down generation after generation. Fickle-minded as they were, they deemed this argument to be sufficiently persuasive.

    ************************************************** ******************


    So mankind is ordered to serve their parents even if they are not Muslims but they should not follow them blindly. If they did then their non-Muslim parents would lead them to Hell.


    Following leaders and friends blindly:



    Allah has informed us at many places in the Holy Quraan about the the fighting of people in Hell. They will fight with their leaders. For example read the translation of the following verses of surah Al-Baqarah.


    Surah Al-Baqarah verses 165----167 (translation only):


    (2:165) Yet there are some who take others as equals to Allah
    163 and love them as Allah alone should be loved; but those who (truly) believe, they love Allah more than all else.164

    If only the wrong-doers were to perceive now – as they will perceive when they will see the chastisement – that all power belongs to Allah alone, and that Allah is severe in chastisement!


    Exp. note 163 and 164:



    163. There are certain attributes which belong exclusively to God. Moreover, there are certain duties that man owes to God by virtue of His being his Lord. The indictment of the Qur'an is that the people in question ascribe to others than God the attributes which are exclusively His and likewise consider others to be the rightful claimants of certain rights over man which belong only to God. To be Lord of the entire complex of causal relationships found in the universe, to dispense the needs and requirements of people, to deliver them from distress and affliction, to heed complaints and respond to lamentations and prayers, and having full knowledge of all that is apparent as well as all that is hidden, are the exclusive attributes of God.


    Furthermore, there are certain rights which God alone may claim: that His creatures should recognize Him alone as their Sovereign, prostrate themselves before Him alone in recognition of their bondage to Him, turn to Him alone for the fulfilment of their prayers, call Him alone for help and succour, place their trust is none save Him, centre their hopes and expectations only in His Munificence, and fear Him alone both in public and in private.


    In the same way, being the only Absolute Sovereign of the universe, it befits none save God to lay down what is permitted and what is prohibited for His subjects, to prescribe their rights and duties, to command them what to do and what not to do, to direct them as to how the energy and resources bestowed on them, by God, should be expended.


    Again, it is God alone Who can ask His subjects to acknowledge His sovereignty, to accept His commands as the source of law, to consider Him alone to be the Lord entitled to command men, to consider His commands supreme, and to turn to Him alone for correct guidance. Whoever either ascribes to any being other than God any of the aforementioned attributes or recognizes the claim of anyone save God to be entitled to any of the above-mentioned rights over His creatures is in fact setting up that being as a rival to God, and placing him on the same plane as God. By the same token, any individual or institution claiming to possess any of the exclusive attributes and rights of God (as mentioned above), is in fact claiming a position parallel and equal to that of God even though the claim to godhead may not have been categorically spelled out.


    164. True faith requires that a man should give absolute priority to seeking God's good pleasure and should hold nothing too dear to sacrifice for the sake of God.
    ************************************************** *****


    Surah Al-Baqarh verses 166—167:



    (2:166) At that moment those who have been followed will disown their followers, and they will see the chastisement, and their resources will be cut asunder.



    (2:167) And the followers will then say: “Oh if only we might return again, we would disown them as they have disowned us?”
    165 Thus Allah will show them their works in a manner causing them bitter regrets. Never will they come out of the Fire.


    Exp. note 165:



    165. Here particular reference is made to the dismal end of those so-called religious leaders who mislead people, and of their gullible followers who fall easy prey to their deception. This has been done in order to warn the Muslims to beware of the errors which misled former nations, and to impress upon them the need to develop the capacity to distinguish between true and spurious leaders so as to avoid being led by the latter.
    ************************************************** *****

    As you can see, in the Hereafter, people will be in extreme hasrah/hasrat/ regret because they will see that they are in the torment of the Hell-Fire due to following wrong leaders! And now (in the Hereafter) the same leaders are also in the torment and cannot help their followers to get out of the Fire. They will fight with them, feel sorry to follow them and will wish and pray for one more chance in this world to worship and obey only Allah Azzah wa Jall. But their prayers /supplications will be in vain and their wish shall not be fulfilled. So this life is the only chance to worship and obey only One God (Allah) by following and obeying Allah’s Messengers. For the present time till the end of this world only Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam is to be obeyed and followed.

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    Re: Respected Muslims: Be careful

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    May Allah bless brother Aabiru-Sabeel for sending me this link: http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showpo...05&postcount=2


    الاستيعاب ج: 3 ص: 1102

    قال أحمد ابن زهير حدثنا عبيد الله بن عمر القواريرى حدثنا مؤمل بن إسماعيل حدثنا سفيان الثورى عن يحيى بن سعيد عن سعيد بن المسيب قال كان عمر يتعوذ بالله من معضلة ليس لها أبو الحسن وقال فى المجنونة التى أمر برجمها وفى التى وضعت لستة أشهر فأراد عمر رجمها فقال له على إن الله تعالى يقول وحملة وفصاله ثلاثون شهرا الحديث وقال له إن الله رفع القلم عن المجنون الحديث فكان عمر يقول لولا على لهلك عمر وقد روى مثل هذه القصة لعثمان مع ابن عباس وعن على أخذها ابن عباس والله أعلم


    This story says:


    “…Umar rAa sought the refuge of Allah from problem /dilemma… this problem was concerning a woman who was mental and had given birth to a child 6 months ago. (That means she was a nursing mother /feeding her 6 months old baby). Umar rAa had decided to stone her to death. Then Ali rAa reminded him the saying of Allah that “her pregnancy and feeding (her baby) takes 30 months”, and the hadeeth that Allah (orders) to remove pen in case of mental person. (That means that the angels are forbidden from writing the deeds of a mental person). So Umar rAa said, If Ali rAa was not here (to guide me) I would be destroyed…”
    ********************************************


    The following points must be considered:


    1. Abu Bakar and Umar rAa were not less learned than Ali rAa. Rather they were more aged, mature and experienced.


    2. The great Sahaabah, being human beings, could make mistakes but those mistakes would be of minor kind. It cannot be expected from them to stone a mother (who was suckling her baby) to death nor would they punish a mental woman by rajam (stoning to death).


    3. Even if this story is considered true by the present Muslims, then they must see that in fact Umar rAa prayed to Allah for refuge from such a situation in which if he was not guided by Ali rAa then he would be destroyed due to passing such order which would result in the stoning of a feeding and mental mother to death.
    This is like the praying of a good, God-fearing Muslim to Allah:

    Ya Allah guide me and protect me from such weakness as was happening from me, if my friend didn’t guide me, I would be destroyed (in the Hereafter due to making such and such sin).

    So staying humble in front of Allah one can pray in such words.


    I, myself, don’t believe in the truth of this story. My doubt becomes stronger when I read the last words of the story in Arabic, those words say:

    “Indeed, a similar story is reported for Uthmaan with Ibn. Abbaas and Ibn. Abbaas took it from Ali, and Allah knows the best”.
    *****************************************

    So they made a similar story for Uthmaan rAa that he was then guided by Ibn Abbaas and in the end they attached all wisdom and knowledge to Ali rAa. Abbaas rAa is also very special for the same sect. They ask du’aa from Abbaas rAa too. (May Allah protect us from all types of shirk, aameen). Then they left the whole story and took only the words of shirk i.e. “law-laa Ali, lahalaka Umar”. Surely Satan is a very bad and cunning enemy to us. He knows the danger of these words and guides his friends to mislead Muslims! Therefore, O respectable Muslims, get acquainted with the knowledge of Qur’aan and the Sunnah to protect yourself from the tactics of Satan.
    Respected Muslims: Be careful

    For the translation and short explanation of the surahs / verses of the Holy Quraan go to


    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAb...TcknAmy9Y5Bv1A

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    Re: Respected Muslims: Be careful

    Quote Originally Posted by OmAbdullah View Post
    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    May Allah bless brother Aabiru-Sabeel for sending me this link: http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showpo...05&postcount=2


    الاستيعاب ج: 3 ص: 1102

    قال أحمد ابن زهير حدثنا عبيد الله بن عمر القواريرى حدثنا مؤمل بن إسماعيل حدثنا سفيان الثورى عن يحيى بن سعيد عن سعيد بن المسيب قال كان عمر يتعوذ بالله من معضلة ليس لها أبو الحسن وقال فى المجنونة التى أمر برجمها وفى التى وضعت لستة أشهر فأراد عمر رجمها فقال له على إن الله تعالى يقول وحملة وفصاله ثلاثون شهرا الحديث وقال له إن الله رفع القلم عن المجنون الحديث فكان عمر يقول لولا على لهلك عمر وقد روى مثل هذه القصة لعثمان مع ابن عباس وعن على أخذها ابن عباس والله أعلم


    This story says:


    “…Umar rAa sought the refuge of Allah from problem /dilemma… this problem was concerning a woman who was mental and had given birth to a child 6 months ago. (That means she was a nursing mother /feeding her 6 months old baby). Umar rAa had decided to stone her to death. Then Ali rAa reminded him the saying of Allah that “her pregnancy and feeding (her baby) takes 30 months”, and the hadeeth that Allah (orders) to remove pen in case of mental person. (That means that the angels are forbidden from writing the deeds of a mental person). So Umar rAa said, If Ali rAa was not here (to guide me) I would be destroyed…”
    ********************************************


    The following points must be considered:


    1. Abu Bakar and Umar rAa were not less learned than Ali rAa. Rather they were more aged, mature and experienced.


    2. The great Sahaabah, being human beings, could make mistakes but those mistakes would be of minor kind. It cannot be expected from them to stone a mother (who was suckling her baby) to death nor would they punish a mental woman by rajam (stoning to death).


    3. Even if this story is considered true by the present Muslims, then they must see that in fact Umar rAa prayed to Allah for refuge from such a situation in which if he was not guided by Ali rAa then he would be destroyed due to passing such order which would result in the stoning of a feeding and mental mother to death.
    This is like the praying of a good, God-fearing Muslim to Allah:

    Ya Allah guide me and protect me from such weakness as was happening from me, if my friend didn’t guide me, I would be destroyed (in the Hereafter due to making such and such sin).

    So staying humble in front of Allah one can pray in such words.


    I, myself, don’t believe in the truth of this story. My doubt becomes stronger when I read the last words of the story in Arabic, those words say:

    “Indeed, a similar story is reported for Uthmaan with Ibn. Abbaas and Ibn. Abbaas took it from Ali, and Allah knows the best”.
    *****************************************

    So they made a similar story for Uthmaan rAa that he was then guided by Ibn Abbaas and in the end they attached all wisdom and knowledge to Ali rAa. Abbaas rAa is also very special for the same sect. They ask du’aa from Abbaas rAa too. (May Allah protect us from all types of shirk, aameen). Then they left the whole story and took only the words of shirk i.e. “law-laa Ali, lahalaka Umar”. Surely Satan is a very bad and cunning enemy to us. He knows the danger of these words and guides his friends to mislead Muslims! Therefore, O respectable Muslims, get acquainted with the knowledge of Qur’aan and the Sunnah to protect yourself from the tactics of Satan.
    U r great scholar too mashallah
    Respected Muslims: Be careful

    قال النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم:*الـحياءُ شُعْبَةٌ مِنَ الاِيِمَانِ*
    و قال ايضا:*الحياء لاياتى الا بخير
    و قال ايضا:*اذا لم تستحي،فاصنع ما شئت*

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    Quote Originally Posted by فصيح الياسين View Post
    U r great scholar too mashallah


    Ibn Tayymiyah Explanation of the Hadith of the three who enter Hell First



    In his book Ad-Daa’ Wad-Dawaa’, Ibn Al-Qayyim explains the hadith of the first three to be thrown into Hell on the Day of Resurrection. He says:

    “from Abu Hurayrah, who said, “I heard the Messenger of Allah say, ‘ Verily, the first to be judged on the Day of Resurrection will be a man who had died as a martyr. He will be brought forward. Allah will remind him of the favours He had bestowed upon him and the man will acknowledge them. Then He will ask him: `What did you do to express gratitude for it?’ The man will reply: `I fought for Your Cause till I was martyred.’ Allah will say: `You have lied. You fought so that people might call you courageous; and they have done so.’ Command will then be issued about him and he will be dragged on his face and thrown into Hell. Next a man who had acquired and imparted knowledge and read the Qur’an will be brought forward, Allah will remind him of the favours He had bestowed upon him and the man will acknowledge them. Then He will ask him: `What did you do to express gratitude for it?’ The man will reply: `I acquired knowledge and taught it, and read the Qur’an for Your sake.’ Allah will say to him: `You have lied. You acquired knowledge so that people might call you a learned (man), and you read the Qur’an so that they might call you a reciter, and they have done so.’ Command will then be issued about him, and he will be dragged on his face and thrown into Hell.

    Next a man whom Allah had made affluent and to whom Allah had given plenty of wealth, will be brought forward, Allah will remind him of the favours He had bestowed upon him and the man will acknowledge them. He will ask him: `What did you do to express gratitude for it?’ The man will reply: `I did not neglect any of the ways You liked wealth to be spend liberally for Your sake’. Allah will say to him: `You have lied. You did it so that people might call you generous, and they have done so.’ Command will then be issued about him and he will be dragged on his face and thrown into Hell.”
    ************************************************** ****************************


    So we all must fear such end. Again we must see what Allah said in the Holy Quraan about the scholars. See the following translation of the verses of the Holy Qur’aan:

    Surah Faatir verses 27 and 28

    27. Do you not see that Allah sends down rain from the sky, and We produce thereby fruits of varying colors? And in the mountains are tracts, white and red of varying shades and [some] extremely black.


    28. And among people and moving creatures and grazing livestock are various colors similarly. Only those fear Allah, from among His servants, who have knowledge. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Forgiving.

    ************************************************** *****************************



    All of us (Muslims ) have the duty to convey the knowledge /message even if we know a single aayah (verse /aayat). And we must fear Allah, that must be the quality of every Muslim in general and that of a learned Muslim in special. But may Allah protect us from such names of a scholar or a rich person or a shaheed who become famous in this world and enjoy their fame while in the Hereafter they are dragged on their faces and thrown into Hell, aameen.


    However, I am not a scholar. Rather, I am an ordinary Muslimah.

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    Assalamu Alaykum,
    http://www.al-shaaba.net/vb/showthre...9%D9%85%D8%B1-!!!!!!

    This is a link to what has been said by some scholars about this sentence "لولا علي لهلك عمر"( If it was not Ali RAA Omar RAA would have been a loser".
    I hope someone will have the time to translate to english the content of this link because it is a very very important matter.
    What is sad is that many muslims cannot figure out how much the Scholars of SHIA sect lie.

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    ًWe (Muslims) must also believe in the other articles of Faith. According to a Hadeeth, we must believe in:


    : آمَنْتُ بِاللهِ ، وملائكته ، وَكُتُبِه ،وَرَسُلِه ، وَالْيَوْمِ الْاخِرِ ، وَالْقَدْرِ خَيْرِه وَشَرِّه مِنَ اللهِ تَعَالى ، وَالْبَعْثِ بَعْدَالْمَوْتِ .

    The translation is :


    I believe in Allah, and His angels, and His Books, and His Messengers, and in the Last Day, and in the destiny the good and evil their of being from Allah Ta'ala, and in the Life after death.


    We must believe in all of them. Disbelief in anyone of them will result in total disbelief.
    Respected Muslims: Be careful

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    Re: Respected Muslims: Be careful

    Quote Originally Posted by abuahmed View Post
    Assalamu Alaykum,
    http://www.al-shaaba.net/vb/showthre...9%D9%85%D8%B1-!!!!!!

    This is a link to what has been said by some scholars about this sentence "لولا علي لهلك عمر"( If it was not Ali RAA Omar RAA would have been a loser".
    I hope someone will have the time to translate to english the content of this link because it is a very very important matter.
    What is sad is that many muslims cannot figure out how much the Scholars of SHIA sect lie.


    Here is only a short summary of the statement (not word to word translation):

    After Bismillah and praises of Allah Ta’ala, and salaat wa salaam on Muhammad Rasoolullah;

    It is reported without sanad (proof /evidence) about someone other than Ali. That is the sentence “ "لولا على لهلك عمر
    Is not about Ali but it is about Ma’az. Someone said that “women were unable to give birth to the likes of Ma’az (because) if Ma’az was not present Umar would be destroyed”.

    Ashyaakh are (given ) in the sanad of the above statement, but who are the ashyaakh?Therefore, Al-Behaqee went in doubt about this statement (See the SunanAl-Behaqee 7/443).

    Inspite of that the shiyah sect changed it and they removed the name of Ma’az and put the name “Ali” in its place (Masnad Zed bin Ali page 335).


    (Then there are the names of some liars in the context) who tried to prove the ignorance of Umar rAa. They also tried to attach the story of “mental woman stoning to death” to the false words "لولا على لهلك عمر"

    Then a Kaddhaab (liar) Abd-Az-Zahraa Al-Alawee said in Li-Bihaar Al-Anwaar (30/679) that this saying
    "لولا على لهلك عمر
    came in many different forms. And from these sources this statement came in the Sunan abi-Dawood and Sunan Al- Behaqee although in the later it is present without sanad as “lawlaa Ma’az lahalaka Umar” (7/443).

    ************************************************** *
    ************************************************** ************************

    So from the above summary it is clear that the story is falsely made by the liars from shiyah, Alawee and rawafid (rejectors of faith) and then they managed to put it in the books of Hadeeth like sunan Abu Dawood etc. So my first assumption about these words proved very true that it seemed to be false sentence invented by the Shiyah sect. The Muslims must be very careful in reading books.
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    After Tawheed, the 2nd obligation is the 5-times a day salaat/salah/namaaz/prayer.

    Salat is to be performed five times every day at its ordained time in the way the Prophet Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam used to perform. For the new Muslims it is not difficult to learn and make it. This obligatory ritual has passed from generation to generation and reached us as Hadeeth-Mutawaatar. There are masaajid in every community where congregational prayers are performed at fixed time. So a new Muslim must start it soon after entering the fold of Islam. He/she must go to a masjid and make it with the Imaam. Thus they will insha-Allah learn it soon.


    Every Muslim must remember that without prayer/salaat there is no faith. This is proved both from the Holy Quraan and Hadeeth. In fact when a person claims that he/she is muslim then his/her eemaan (faith ) is soon tested by the salaat. If true in faith, they will start making salaat after entering the fold of Islam.
    Respected Muslims: Be careful

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    Re: Respected Muslims: Be careful

    Can someone say "Thank God the dog barked and alerted us" or something along those lines? Yes the dog barked..etc but God allowed it, ordained it to happen.

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    Thank you for sharing this, brother.

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