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    The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

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    Assalamu Alaikum.
    Please note.
    1)-That the Earth has to be billions of years old for the theory of evolution to be true.Evolution is a slow process that requires billions of years.Hence,if the Earth is let us say,only a few thousands or even some hundred of thousand years old,Evolution cannot occur and this theory is false.
    2)-The Presenter is a Christian.The Quran has ordered us Muslims to judge previous scriptures by using the Quran as criterian,i.e,that which agrees with the Quran,Muslims agree that it is the truth.And that part of the scriptures,which disagree with the Quran,we disregard them.The Presenter presents Bible verses throughout his presentation.And they are in agreement with the Islamic view.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_OlX7M5MLA

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    Moreover,this person is also a Zionist.I recommend you not to listen to his videos other than Evolution and his debates with Evolutionists.

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Wa alaikum assalam
    Another scientist on the same topic
    https://www.trueorigin.org/biologymyth.php

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    quran supports evolution

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    I do not know if evolution is a fantasy or not. what I do know it does not have to contradict Islam.
    Allah may have used evolution as a tool to create life on Earth.
    think about it...Adam as was made of clay and dirt from Earth. if we die, our bodies will decompose and go back to its original state which is clay and dirt.
    but so are animals...so is this not a sign that our origin may be the same?
    our days weeks and months are specified for a life on Earth...beyond our Earth a day or a week or one year has no meaning.
    when Quran speaks about time, it does not have to mean time defined by humans. we nevr know.

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Be careful about equating Islamic/Quranic terms with scientific/biological ones. In Islam there is the term "Insan" and "Bani Adam" and "Adami", and in science there is the technical term "Homo Sapien" and "anatomically modern human". It is not necessary that these are all equivalent terms. In my view, the Islamic term Bani Adam is not necessarily equivalent to Homo Sapien. What may be considered "Homo Sapien" or even "Human" from a scientific/biological perspective may not be considered Insan or Adami possessing Ruh in the Islamic view, but instead belonging to the classification of "Haywan".

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    I don´t see that evolution and Islam would to be opposite. The science is just only human´s way to understand those technics how Allah has created the life itself.

    When we become ill and antibiotics doesn´t work well against bacteria we ask why. If a doctor or scientist explain it´s because that bacteria has changed it´s DNA and became resistant to the medicine, that´s part of the story of the evolution. No need to believe the doc but just hope someone can now create new and better med what works. Well, then this someone else has studied and understood how bacterias create new variations. It means, they have studied how evolution process works.
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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    I don´t see that evolution and Islam would to be opposite. The science is just only human´s way to understand those technics how Allah has created the life itself.

    When we become ill and antibiotics doesn´t work well against bacteria we ask why. If a doctor or scientist explain it´s because that bacteria has changed it´s DNA and became resistant to the medicine, that´s part of the story of the evolution. No need to believe the doc but just hope someone can now create new and better med what works. Well, then this someone else has studied and understood how bacterias create new variations. It means, they have studied how evolution process works.
    I totally agree...science is human way to understand nature and its laws. of course we cannot understand everything. but using science and research we understand it bit by bit. right now we use evolution to explain how Allah created life on Earth. Over 100 years this might be much more detailed how evolution functions...or it might be just silly and we developed a much better but totally different theory. who knows.
    but again, it does not have to contradict Islam.
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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post

    When we become ill and antibiotics doesn´t work well against bacteria we ask why. If a doctor or scientist explain it´s because that bacteria has changed it´s DNA and became resistant to the medicine, that´s part of the story of the evolution.
    Assalam alaikum

    Darwinists use undeniable examples of 'change over time' (variation) to prove 'the idea that all life has descended from a single common ancestor over millions of years via a net gain in new genetic information' (microbe-like-to-man evolution).

    This inexcusable logic is called equivocation or the bait-and-switch fallacy, and occurs when someone changes the definition of a word halfway through an argument.
    The supposed Evidence for Evolution is full of examples of 'change over time' as evidence for microbes-to-man evolution.

    http://quranscientificerror.blogspot...evolution.html
    https://www.gawaher.com/topic/740302...-of-evolution/
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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Good brother View Post
    Assalam alaikum

    Darwinists use undeniable examples of 'change over time' (variation) to prove 'the idea that all life has descended from a single common ancestor over millions of years via a net gain in new genetic information' (microbe-like-to-man evolution).

    This inexcusable logic is called equivocation or the bait-and-switch fallacy, and occurs when someone changes the definition of a word halfway through an argument.
    The supposed Evidence for Evolution is full of examples of 'change over time' as evidence for microbes-to-man evolution.

    http://quranscientificerror.blogspot...evolution.html
    https://www.gawaher.com/topic/740302...-of-evolution/
    It does seem incredible to me that all organic life on Earth has a shared ancestry. It's almost a metaphysical claim...a bit like how Christians say the bread literally turns into Jesus's flesh, and the wine into his blood
    Me and the apple I ate for breakfast literally have the same ancestor
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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    So evolution is true? When Allah fashioned Adam AS didn’t he look human? Shaitan was scared of him?? Idk

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    just look at dogs to wolves

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacefully View Post
    just look at dogs to wolves
    Grey wolf & placental canids Vs Tasmanian wolf/thylacine:

    Thylacinus cynocephalus, Greek for "dog-headed pouched one") was the largest known carnivorous marsupial of modern times. It is commonly known as the Tasmanian tiger (because of its striped back) or the Tasmanian wolf. Native to continental Australia, Tasmania and New Guinea, it is thought to have become extinct in the 20th century. It was the last extant member of its family, Thylacinidae; specimens of other members of the family have been found in the fossil record dating back to the early Miocene.

    The gray wolf or grey wolf (Canis lupus) is a species of canid native to the wilderness and remote areas of North America, Eurasia, and North Africa.

    Evolutionary biologists believe that these two different species have completely separate evolutionary histories. (Since the continent of Australia and the islands around it split off from Gondwanaland (the supercontinent that is supposed to be the originator of Africa, Antarctica, Australia, and South America) the link between placental and marsupial mammals is considered to have been broken, and at that time there were no wolves).

    But the interesting thing is that the skeletal structure of the Tasmanian wolf is nearly identical to that of the North American wolf. Their skulls bear an extraordinary degree of resemblance to each other.


    The skulls of the Thylacine (left) and the Grey Wolf, Canis lupus, are similar, although the species are only very distantly related according to neo-darwinism. Caninae that led to present-day canids (wolves, foxes, coyotes, jackals, and domestic dogs)appeared only (about 10-0 Mya) while the last imaginary common ancestor was about 160 Mya !!!

    The obstacle:

    A most striking factor for consideration is the existence of numerous marsupial and placental mammals that are virtually identical to one another with the exception of the distinctions in their reproductive systems.
    One of the most concrete examples of such an obstacle in the path of Neo-darwinian theory is that there are "pairs" in placentals and marsupials which are nearly the same.

    In other words, according to the theory of evolution, mutations completely independent of each other must have produced these creatures "by chance" twice! This reality is a question that will give Darwinists problems even worse than dizzy spells.

    Extraordinary resemblances and similar organs like these, which evolutionary biologists cannot accept as examples of "homology," show that homology does not constitute any evidence for the thesis of evolution from a common ancestor.

    Ad hoc:

    An ad hoc explanation is an unfalsifiable explanation provided in an effort to account for an inconsistency in a theory.

    For example:
    A child says that he turned his homework in to the teacher. The teacher then confronts him with the fact that the homework is not in the box. The child responds, "Somebody must have stolen it!" The child has no evidence to support the allegation that someone stole the homework -- he has simply manufactured an unfalsifiable explanation to deal with a difficulty in his story.
    Ad hock

    In response, evolutionists say that these organs are not "homologous" (in other words, from a common ancestor), but that they are "analogous" (very similar to each other, although there is no evolutionary connection between them). However, the question of which category they will put an organ into, homologous or analogous, is answered totally in line with the theory of evolution's preconceptions.

    The explanation is ad hoc in the sense that it was invented in order to explain away a difficulty in a theory, and is not itself supported by experimental evidence.

    And this shows that the Darwinist claim based on resemblances is completely unscientific. The only thing Darwinists do is to try to interpret new discoveries in accordance with a dogmatic evolutionary preconception.

    http://evolutionfactormyth.blogspot....-homology.html

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    i dont get into all the lableing and the creating of an "us vs them" dialog. quran supports evolution, evolution has some science to back it... would make no sense to dismiss it. nothing unislamic about it according to allah (quran).
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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacefully View Post
    quran supports evolution
    Science is man made. It is a tiny knowledge given to man by God. Concept of evolution has inherent flaws. If Darwin’s theory is correct, then why we still have monkey’s. They all should have transformed into humans.

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kashif Amin View Post
    Science is man made. It is a tiny knowledge given to man by God. Concept of evolution has inherent flaws. If Darwin’s theory is correct, then why we still have monkey’s. They all should have transformed into humans.
    Evolution is a Fitanah of Dajjal in my view

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    i dont get into all the lableing and the creating of an "us vs them" dialog. quran supports evolution, evolution has some science to back it... would make no sense to dismiss it. nothing unislamic about it according to allah (quran).

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    sorry for the double post. im new here still getting use to it.

    but its not that simple. darwinism (right or wrong) doesnt say all monkeys should have transformed into humans lol it doesnt even say humans came from monkeys.

    it proves we have a common ancestor

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kashif Amin View Post
    Science is man made. It is a tiny knowledge given to man by God. Concept of evolution has inherent flaws. If Darwin’s theory is correct, then why we still have monkey’s. They all should have transformed into humans.
    Assalam alaikum

    The scientific evolution:

    'change over time', 'descent with modification', or 'the change of allele frequencies of a population over time'.

    This is well established, testable, falsifiable and provable.

    "Evolution" according to neo-darwinian scenario:

    'the idea that all life has descended from a single common ancestor over millions of years via a net gain in new genetic information'.

    This is laughable Speculation; completely half baked, not testable, not falsifiable and not provable.

    http://quranscientificerror.blogspot...evolution.html

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kashif Amin View Post
    Science is man made. It is a tiny knowledge given to man by God. Concept of evolution has inherent flaws. If Darwin’s theory is correct, then why we still have monkey’s. They all should have transformed into humans.
    we didn't evolve from monkeys, according to Darwin. Know what your arguing against. It makes you sound more credible to atheists. He said monkeys, apes, and humans evolved from a common ancestor that was neither ape, human, nor monkey.
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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    we didn't evolve from monkeys, according to Darwin. Know what your arguing against. It makes you sound more credible to atheists. He said monkeys, apes, and humans evolved from a common ancestor that was neither ape, human, nor monkey.
    The original ancestor - according to them- is a single microbe-like organism, they argue that this organism was created somehow then it "evolved" to form life, plants and animals.

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    Re: The Theory of Evolution is a Fantasy.

    Greetings and peace be with you Mustafa16;

    we didn't evolve from monkeys, according to Darwin. Know what your arguing against. It makes you sound more credible to atheists. He said monkeys, apes, and humans evolved from a common ancestor that was neither ape, human, nor monkey.
    If that is the case, then humans, monkeys and apes have clay or dirt as their common ancestor. Adam was made of clay and dirt from Earth.

    I think the theory of evolution is sadly lacking.

    In the spirit of searching for our Creator.

    Eric
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